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[Martuh]

Originally Posted by OOOOOhhhh BETTY

Why oh Why do the Europeans on the forum ALWAYS exaggerate their stadium capacities???

Alkmaar are NOT building a 30000 stadium, it will be 16000. Here are the true capacities of the Dutch Stadiums -

Amsterdam - 51859
Feyenoord - 51480
Philipsstadion - 35119, NOT 37000
Vitesse Arnhem - 26600, NOT 30000
Arkestadion Enschede upgrade (work not started) - 28000
De Goffert Nijmegen (no definite upgrade plans) - 12470, NOT 26000
Heerenveen upgrade - 26000, NOT 28000
Utrecht - 24426
Euroborg - 20000
Alkmaar new stadium - 16000, NOT 30000

Still very good stadiums, but why is it only UK posters actually state the true capacities of their stadiums?

*sigh* why is reading so hard? I explained the AZ 17.000->30.000 thing on the first page.

N.E.C. has revealed plans to expand this week in a Dutch football magazine called Voetbal International.

Sorry I was wrong at Heerenveen, it's going to be 27.000.

PSV Stadion is 36.500 = 37.000 wounded up.

Utrecht = 24.000 wounded up.

Enschede = starting to build in the summerstop and next season.

Rotterdam = 51.000 wounded up.

Amsterdam = 52.000 wounded up.

So the only difference is I wind up to 1000-numbers and was 1,000 wrong at Heerenveen. I am right at all the others.

[Quintana]

Arnhem is a little bit complicated. When it was finished it had a capacity of 26.600. However, they made sure additional seating could be installed in front of 3 of the 4 stands (they can't install additional seating in front of one end because that's where the pitch enters and leaves the stadium). It can hold almost 30.000 (29.600 to be precise) this way. During Euro 2000 and few years after it the stadium used this configuration.

Because there is no need for a 30.000 seater in Arnhem they have removed some the seating again (well, they covered them under some kind of fabric) . The picture Martuh posted seems to be the 30.000 seater configuration, I guess its current capacity will be around 26.600. Removing the fabric will do to increase its capacity to almost 30.000 again.

[CityLife]

What is the Hagues capacity going to be?

[Quintana]

Originally Posted by CityLife

What is the Hagues capacity going to be?

15.050 (apparently easily expandable to 27.000)

[OOOOOhhhh BETTY]

Originally Posted by Martuh

*sigh* why is reading so hard? I explained the AZ 17.000->30.000 thing on the first page.

N.E.C. has revealed plans to expand this week in a Dutch football magazine called Voetbal International.

Sorry I was wrong at Heerenveen, it's going to be 27.000.

PSV Stadion is 36.500 = 37.000 wounded up.

Utrecht = 24.000 wounded up.

Enschede = starting to build in the summerstop and next season.

Rotterdam = 51.000 wounded up.

Amsterdam = 52.000 wounded up.

So the only difference is I wind up to 1000-numbers and was 1,000 wrong at Heerenveen. I am right at all the others.

AZ are building a 16000 stadium. End of story. If they upgrade it to 30000 in the future, then the time to discuss this is in......the future.

PSV holds 35119

If split in the middle, you wind up or down to the nearest even number, that's the golden rules of maths. So if PSV was 36500, the you would wind down to 36000. If it was 37500, you would wind up to 38000.

[Martuh]

Originally Posted by OOOOOhhhh BETTY

AZ are building a 16000 stadium. End of story. If they upgrade it to 30000 in the future, then the time to discuss this is in......the future.

PSV holds 35119

If split in the middle, you wind up or down to the nearest even number, that's the golden rules of maths. So if PSV was 36500, the you would wind down to 36000. If it was 37500, you would wind up to 38000.

If you're really such an idiot then I'll quote myself.

This one's a little hard to explain. AZ Alkmaar is currently building their new stadium, but it has 17 000 seats. The demand is huge; the new season the stadium's entirely sold out at season tickets. The big boss of AZ said that they would build a second tier (30 000 seats ) if the waiting list contained 3000 people, which was reached today. So at the pics, imagine the second tier, which will be ready a season later, summer 2007.

[OOOOOhhhh BETTY]

AZ Alkmaar are building a 16000 stadium. When and if they start to expand it.....I will let you know!

[AmsterdamArenA]

Originally Posted by OOOOOhhhh BETTY

Alkmaar may be extended in the future, but that applies to almost any stadium. At the moment, it is being built for 16000 seats.

Gelredome holds 26600 for soccer matches.

http://www.stadionwelt.de/stadionwel...nd=Niederlande

http://www.fussballtempel.net/uefa/NED.html

You should really pay a visit to some Dutch websites where it is all mentioned.

Capaciteit?

Veel supporters vragen zich nu af wat de capaciteit van het stadion gaat worden. Immers, er verschijnen allemaal verschillende getallen in de media, van 13.500 tot 26.000. De waarheid ligt zoals altijd in het midden, alhoewel dit niet geheel correct is. Het bestuur en de directie van AZ onderzoeken momenteel de mogelijkheden om een uitbreiding te realiseren van 13.500 naar ongeveer 17.500 plaatsen. Hiervoor moeten verscheidene procedures worden doorlopen en die onderzoeken zijn momenteel in volle gang, maar uitsluitsel is er nog geenszins.

www.az.nl

Voor Euro-2000 was het nodig dat het aantal zitplaatsen werd uitgebreid. Het totale aantal plaatsen is daarvoor tot 30.000 plaatsen verhoogd, inclusief de loges en de seats. Het werkelijke aantal is 27.300 zitplaatsen en met de loges en de seats is het totaal 29.500 plaatsen. Voor invaliden met rolstoelen zijn ook nog eens 100 plaatsen beschikbaar.

www.gelredome.nl

[AmsterdamArenA]

By the way Martuh, where have you read that De Goffert will get those 26.000 seats? It doesn't say in last week's VI, does it?

[OOOOOhhhh BETTY]

I don't care what some clog wearing Dutchman says!! Alkmaars stadium will NOT be 30000, it will open with roughly a 16000 capacity. It may or may not be expanded in the future, but this is irrelevant, as any stadium may or may not be expanded in the future. 2nd of all, your links show that Gelredrome is NOT 30000. It is way off 30000. It may have been 30000 in the past (Euro 2000), but it no longer is.

[Quintana]

I see Bubomb is back (which is strange cause he still has several nicks which haven't been banned yet)

[Balleke]

our pride

Philips stadium - Eindhoven UEFA cup final 2006 will be hosted here

[AmsterdamArenA]

Originally Posted by OOOOOhhhh BETTY

I don't care what some clog wearing Dutchman says!! Alkmaars stadium will NOT be 30000, it will open with roughly a 16000 capacity. It may or may not be expanded in the future, but this is irrelevant, as any stadium may or may not be expanded in the future. 2nd of all, your links show that Gelredrome is NOT 30000. It is way off 30000. It may have been 30000 in the past (Euro 2000), but it no longer is.

I'm afraid you lost it pal..

[Martuh]

Originally Posted by AmsterdamArenA

I'm afraid you lost it pal..

Agreed at this.

[AmsterdamArenA]

Where does it actually say De Goffert shall be expanded to some 26.000 seats. I believe nothing is said about it in the latest VI.

[AmsterdamArenA]

Where does it actually say De Goffert will probably be expanded to some 26.000 seats? I believe nothing is said about it in the latest VI.

[Martuh]

Originally Posted by AmsterdamArenA

Where does it actually say De Goffert shall be expanded to some 26.000 seats. I believe nothing is said about it in the latest VI.

Page 4, underneath the photo of Luinge and Blind.

[CityLife]

Not mentioned by anybody, but nowadays still the fourth stadium of the Netherlands...the good old Olympic Stadium (Amsterdam). Nowadays a capacity of 30.000 seats, once a capacity for 65.000.

[Kampflamm]

AZs stadium looks great. Hopefully they can win the Eredivisie in the future.

[Quintana]

Originally Posted by CityLife

Not mentioned by anybody, but nowadays still the fourth stadium of the Netherlands...the good old Olympic Stadium (Amsterdam). Nowadays a capacity of 30.000 seats, once a capacity for 65.000.

It actually has a capacity of 22.500 which probably makes it the sixth biggest stadium in The Netherlands for now. According to World Stadiums, the Fanny Blankers Koen Stadium in Hengelo (only used once a year for an athletics event as far as I know) is the biggest athletics stadium with 25.000 seats although I'm not convinced of this. Once the Abe Lenstra expansion is finished it will drop to seventh place. After the expansions of Twente, NEC and AZ it will drop further.