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Old August 20th, 2015, 07:02 AM   #421
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Rail vehicle update

Photos and news from the official Ansaldo Honolulu website:
http://www.ansaldohonolulurail.com/

First couple rail cars left Italy in early July to California for final assembly by cre8ive na8ive, on Flickr

Hearing these first cars should arrive sometime in 2016 for tests. Scuttlebutt is early 2016 but don't quote me on that.

Also noticed, on this website that a couple of tract maintenance vehicles are complete and ready to ship direct to Hawai'i and those rail and road trucks can test and adjust the steel tracts way before the rail cars get here. When the cars get here they will test the cars themselves and the driverless system. Here is a photo from the same site:
Rail tract maintenance vehicles for Honolulu by cre8ive na8ive, on Flickr
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Old August 20th, 2015, 08:34 AM   #422
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I think, Copenhagen metro car version is better than Honolulu
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Old August 25th, 2015, 09:47 AM   #423
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I agree, so why would Ansaldo build newer rail cars that aren't as nice looking as their older models?
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Old August 25th, 2015, 06:27 PM   #424
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I agree, so why would Ansaldo build newer rail cars that aren't as nice looking as their older models?
The answer is always to suit American crash protection standards/custoner request.
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Old August 25th, 2015, 07:14 PM   #425
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The answer is always to suit American crash protection standards/custoner request.
Those Crash standards only apply to Railroads...
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Old August 25th, 2015, 07:19 PM   #426
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First Quarter 2015 Daily Ridership numbers for Honolulu

Source : http://www.apta.com/resources/statis...rship-APTA.pdf

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Honolulu / City & Cnty of Honolulu DOTS - 217,600 (2015)
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Old August 25th, 2015, 08:04 PM   #427
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The answer is always to suit American crash protection standards/custoner request.
This makes no sense, Honolulu RAil is entirely segregated not only from other railroads but also for any other vehicular traffic, with no at-grade crossings.
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Old August 26th, 2015, 01:01 AM   #428
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The answer is always to suit American crash protection standards/custoner request.

No, the answer is: AnsaldoBreda.
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Old August 26th, 2015, 03:00 AM   #429
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Those Crash standards only apply to Railroads...
Thats not entirely true, older rollingstock in chicago & nyc are quite sturdy.

Wouldn't surprise me one bit if current eu rollingstock has a lower impact capacity than north-american metro/subway material.
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Old August 26th, 2015, 05:23 AM   #430
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HONOLULU | Public Transport

At this point we don't really know the reason behind a lot of decisions in this project.
I just think the design was based on the usual committee stuff, but I do like default design used in every other system.
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Old August 26th, 2015, 09:06 AM   #431
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I think, Copenhagen metro car version is better than Honolulu
Your thoughts are your opinion. In my opinion, the Copenhagen Metro looks bad... Hopefully the Honolulu train will look better once it starts coming together.
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What color will the Honolulu trains be?
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Kind of hard to judge how it will look when we haven't even seen the finished product. My guess is the Honolulu C&C probably chose the cheapest/easiest design to save money.
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What color will the Honolulu trains be?
Nobody really knows quite yet. There are multiple renderings showing different color schemes. Most likely HART goes with the current colors that they use on the bus which are white, black, orange, and yellow.
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being hopeful

I'm hoping HART uses the same (yellow gradients) as the city buses because it's important for the public to know the bus and rail is or should be a truly integrated system. Or the rail cars can be a green if it follows the same gradient hues as the bus or the blues of the handi-van service as long as the striping matches all three city transportation services.

The Bus
The Ext Bus by cre8ive na8ive, on Flickr
TheBus by cre8ive na8ive, on Flickr
The Handi-Van
The Handi-Van by cre8ive na8ive, on Flickr
The Rail Classic yellow and green variant
The Rail yellow by cre8ive na8ive, on Flickr
The Rail green by cre8ive na8ive, on Flickr

Finally a recent photo of guide way work on the start of the current rail project at the East Kapolei station. Here one can see two single but separated guide ways to form the station
Two single but separate rail guide ways at Kapolei East station by cre8ive na8ive, on Flickr
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Kapolei should become a cluster of high-rises with the train reaching there... something like Waikiki, but focused more on business/residence than hotels.
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Old August 29th, 2015, 09:46 PM   #437
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Those Crash standards only apply to Railroads...
They apply to any rail that crosses vehicle paths. Light rail vehicles are typically more stout that heavy rail vehicles because they have street crossings.
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Old September 2nd, 2015, 03:02 AM   #438
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HART's Honolulu on the Move September 2015 show has a model of train set (front motor train and center train). I can't find photos of close up other than this video. I assume the location for surfboard storage is also the same storage for bikes. Expected deliver and arrival of train set is Spring 2016 per various reports.

Model of Honolulu rail train set (2 of 4) shown in this video at the 4:40 minute mark
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Not bad , i'm abit relieved now...
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Old September 15th, 2015, 09:18 AM   #440
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Photos from today 9-14-15

The curvature of the rail guideway can now be seen as the rail line arrives at the Pearl Highlands station site. by cre8ive na8ive, on Flickr

Guideway work finished on the Kapolei end. After last section sets the big rig we be moved to Waipahu by cre8ive na8ive, on Flickr

Rail heading into Waipahu by cre8ive na8ive, on Flickr

Art shot of rail guideway over Fort Weaver Road overpass by cre8ive na8ive, on Flickr
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