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Old November 7th, 2015, 04:30 AM   #481
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It's not out of the realm of possibility, but highly improbable at the moment.
I 100% agree with you that it won't happen anytime soon, but maybe 20, 40, to 50 years from now. A lot less tourists go to the Ala Wai Golf course and due to the price increases a lot less locals as well.

Just to get the entitlements on the ala wai golf course will take at least a decade lol
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Old November 15th, 2015, 04:46 PM   #482
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Old November 15th, 2015, 04:48 PM   #483
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Old November 15th, 2015, 04:58 PM   #484
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Old December 16th, 2015, 04:51 PM   #486
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when I lived in Hawaii, the H-1 pearl city area and the nearby Kam Highway was hella packed in rush hour, especially from 4-8pm. It must be horrible with all those lane closures.
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Old December 22nd, 2015, 08:25 AM   #487
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Station updates 12-16-15

Preliminary work on the Pearlridge station 12-10-15 by cre8ive na8ive, on Flickr

Nice view of the future Pearl Highland Station 12-16-15 by cre8ive na8ive, on Flickr

Work on columns on the East Waipahu station 12-16-15 by cre8ive na8ive, on Flickr

Work on the West Loch or Waipahu West station platform supports. 12-16-15 by cre8ive na8ive, on Flickr
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Old December 26th, 2015, 07:37 AM   #488
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Thank you for shares a picture. It's coming along nicely. Keep doing it!!!
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Old January 5th, 2016, 03:08 AM   #489
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Old January 5th, 2016, 06:52 AM   #491
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3rd Quarter 2015 Daily Ridership numbers for Honolulu

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2015 Elevated guideway construction

Found this nicely produced video on youtube capping the Kam Hwy (KHG) & Farrington Hwy guideway (WOFH) contract by Kiewit:
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Old January 28th, 2016, 08:59 AM   #493
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Council votes to extend excise tax surcharge for rail

http://www.staradvertiser.com/breaki...arge-for-rail/

The Honolulu City Council today gave final approval to a bill to extend the 0.5 percent surcharge on Oahu for the state general excise tax to pay for the bulk of the contentious rail project.

Council members voted 7-2 to pass Bill 23 (2015), which extends the surcharge on Oahu for the excise tax on goods and services for five additional years through 2027. Council members Ann Kobayashi and Ikaika Anderson cast the “no” votes.

The bill allows the Honolulu Authority for Rapid Transportation to use up to $1.1 billion from the extended period to pay for the 20-mile, 21-stop line from East Kapolei to Ala Moana Center. The overall cost of the project is now estimated by HART to cost $6.57 billion, thus necessitating the extension of the surcharge. Critics say they expect costs for what is the largest public works project in Hawaii’s history to continue to climb.

HART and Mayor Kirk Caldwell initially sought an unlimited extension but the 2015 state Legislature, after much deliberation, chose to extend the surcharge only through 2027.

Council members have been discussing a cap of its own and passed one, of sorts. The bill’s language calls for $1.1 billion to be expended for the 20-mile segment. It then says any remaining revenues “may be expended … in the following order of priority:” contingency and other reserves required by the Federal Transit Administration as conditions of a $1.55 billion grant; disability accessibility improvements; planning and design costs for the rail line’s future segments; and “infrastructure improvements to rail station areas to support affordable housing, as permitted by state and federal law.”

The bill also requires additional reports by HART be given to the Council, including quarterly cash counts.

HART Chief Executive Officer Dan Grabauskas told Council members, during questioning, that both FTA officials and HART staff are OK with the final language of the bill.
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It's good to see the project advancing and now being properly financed. The worst thing could happen to Oahu would have been to end up with a project not reaching Ala Moana, being therefore of much less use and setting the population/electorate against rail for another 30-40 years.
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Old January 28th, 2016, 11:33 PM   #495
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It's good to see the project advancing and now being properly financed. The worst thing could happen to Oahu would have been to end up with a project not reaching Ala Moana, being therefore of much less use and setting the population/electorate against rail for another 30-40 years.
There was a recent poll done in the Star-Advertiser (local newspaper) showing that now the majority of residents support the completion of the Rail project. I think most residents, even the ones that oppose the rail project just want to see it completed before costs continue to escalate.

Some city council members have mentioned in the past about stopping the rail short of ala moana at middle st, but the reality is the city has 0 leverage to do so. Its all just talk to look like they are trying to keep costs down. The FTA is going to force the city to complete the project, because if they didn't it would set a dangerous precedent for other projects around the country. If Honolulu was able to alter the plan at this point with federal money secured, whats to stop other local governments around the country to do the same. Also, the city can't use the 1/2% GET to pay back the feds if they were to cancel the project. They would be forced to use their only real source of tax revenue which is property taxes to pay back the $1.5b. There is 0% chance this line gets stopped short of Ala Moana. Both the State of Hawaii and the City & County of Honolulu depend heavily on Federal money so the Feds hold all the leverage when it comes to the Rail project.

Whats really sad is HART will need to come back to ask for another extension in a few years for when they begin building in town. Honolulu has some of the highest construction costs and most expensive land in the world. I highly doubt the extra 5 years will be enough to pay for everything. All the local politicians and leaders understand that the 1/2% GET will be made permanent but so typical of Hawaii politicians, kick the can down the road and worry about it later.
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Why are costs escalating so much compared to initial assumptions?
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Old January 29th, 2016, 03:10 AM   #497
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Why are costs escalating so much compared to initial assumptions?

There were lawsuits that did stall the project, but I'm not sure if it relates to project's costs. There's also the understanding that since they're just estimates it would not be reflective of the costs they would have to pay once bidding started for contracts.

On a completely different note, HART has recently started advertising on TheBus and I've seen two versions of it. One talks about complementary WI-FI and the other shows off some of the station renders.
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Why are costs escalating so much compared to initial assumptions?
When the original projections were made, it was in the middle of the recession. The Honolulu economy has been booming since then and construction costs have doubled. Land costs have increased as well. The price tag of the rail project will continue to grow and I'd bet it goes up in the $8 to $11 billion range. Just to acquire the land in the city center will probably cost the City & County of Honolulu anywhere ranging from $200m upwards to $1 billion depending on market conditions and the settlements made in the arbitration for the eminent domain cases.

Hawaii in general is one of the most expensive places on the planet, everything has to be shipped here (most isolated city on earth). We have the highest construction costs in the United States and probably top 10 in the entire world. Our land throughout the state is comparable in price to Manhattan real estate. Also consider the fact that the City & County of Honolulu has 0 expertise in building projects of this magnitude and most if not all of construction crews have 0 expertise in building a project like this. For example, nobody in Hawaii knows how to do thermite welding, so workers will have to be trained or welders from Japan or Germany will have to be shipped in to do the work. HART also hasn't even worked out on how they will provide the rail with electricity because HECO (Hawaiian Electric Company) doesn't have the excess capacity. So either HECO or HART will have to build a new power plant just to power the whole thing.

Those are just a few of the things that add to the costs of this project. I could write 5 to 10 pages worth of reasons why this project is very expensive. Simply put, Limited Land + High Construction Costs + limited infrastructure = expensive project.

The reality is the officials from HART undersold the cost of the building this project so people would vote for it. It's one reason why Full Funding Grant Agreements (FFGA) exist, so that local governments don't take federal funds and get halfway into a project then stop because costs escalate. It exists to force local governments to fulfill their obligation. Thats why HART rushed to get one, because they knew once they got the FFGA that the project was a done deal. Anyone that has done business in Hawaii knows that almost every single project especially when it comes to infrastructure has heavy cost overruns. So voters claiming HART lied about costs are being willfully ignorant. I still support the project and it has definitely been quite an educational experience. I think a lot of people on the Mainland USA, Europe, and Asia take for granted the building of these projects mainly because they have had generations to build the necessary infrastructure to support transit systems of this magnitude. In Honolulu, everything is being from built from scratch in about a 10 to 15 year time span.

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Well, Chinese have also built their rail and subway infrastructure almost from scratch during the last 15 years. Can't you import at least some work crews from the East Coast? Surely there they have enough experience in various construction techniques. I guess on the plus side you'll have significantly more experience after this is finished.
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Well, Chinese have also built their rail and subway infrastructure almost from scratch during the last 15 years. Can't you import at least some work crews from the East Coast? Surely there they have enough experience in various construction techniques. I guess on the plus side you'll have significantly more experience after this is finished.
I don't think labor costs are the major problem. Taking everything on ferry from California probably adds more.
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