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Old April 3rd, 2017, 10:48 PM   #581
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Why big delay to next phase of guideway

Yes I know what you mean. One would think the contract for the next phase of guideway (airport section) should have been rewarded awhile ago so construction would of almost continued between phase one and two but the city had to wait for construction cost to settle a little just so it could hopefully get the highest priced cost in their budget estimates and they did get that with the lowest bidder. Since it's a new company (a consortium of three big contractors). They have to coordinate working together, designing three stations (I think this next contract included the stations within this phase) and gearing and manning up for actual construction from scratch. Whereas if the last contractor (from phase one) won the bid they would have already had the specialized gear and specialized man power to just continue the work already on hand. Since the last contractor didn't even bid, I hope there will be a good transition of selling specialized equipment and turning over skilled and now seasoned rail labor along with some key management positions or at least a consulting sub contractor. We are all waiting for a start date to the next phase. Of course this delay contributes to the costs but again the delay saves money because construction cost inflation reverted a little. Honolulu's rail is between a rock and a hard place, no one's flault and the project is still worth it.

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Old April 11th, 2017, 12:46 AM   #582
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It is slightly off topic, but I'd like to ask what is the story of these two high rises in the foreground... are they first of many to come, or something that is an exception to the area's current zoning?
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Old April 12th, 2017, 01:33 AM   #585
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Yes I know what you mean. One would think the contract for the next phase of guideway (airport section) should have been rewarded awhile ago so construction would of almost continued between phase one and two but the city had to wait for construction cost to settle a little just so it could hopefully get the highest priced cost in their budget estimates and they did get that with the lowest bidder.
If I recall correctly, didn't they already reward the contract for the guideway to completed all the way to Middle Street(which is a few stations past the airport) in the 4th quarter of 2016? The final funding phase at this point is getting the Rail from Middle St to Ala Moana which is currently being debated in the legislature. Looks like they're going to get rid of the State skim and add another 2 years to the GET extension which means in several years the C&C will be coming back once again asking for money to finish the project. Maybe they get lucky and the extra 2 years and loss of the state skim is all they need to finish it up.
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Old April 12th, 2017, 01:52 AM   #586
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It is slightly off topic, but I'd like to ask what is the story of these two high rises in the foreground... are they first of many to come, or something that is an exception to the area's current zoning?
The developers who built those two towers back in 60's or 70's was known for being incredibly corrupt and well connected. They would never have been approved with todays zoning and standard. He actually built 5 towers with the exact design throughout Oahu. They were built on the cheap and have very low ceilings. Definitely built during the "Pay to Play" era in Honolulu. You can see his third tower in the photo your commenting on if you look at the distance at that small cluster of high rises. The Developer had friends in the City Council and Planning Department even though the building design violates many building codes. They definitely exceed the height limit of the area, however thanks to TOD there is going to be increases in height and density around the rail stations.

here below are the 5 towers built with the same design. I know its off-topic but still an interesting thing to discuss.

Aiea Tower
https://www.google.com/maps/@21.3871...7i13312!8i6656

Waikiki Tower 1
https://www.google.com/maps/@21.2867...7i13312!8i6656

Waikiki Tower 2
https://www.google.com/maps/@21.2867...7i13312!8i6656

Pearl City Towers x2
https://www.google.com/maps/@21.3978...7i13312!8i6656

Here is the link adopted TOD Plan for the Aiea/Pearl City. The area has been upzoned and already high rises projects are in the early planning stages.

Link to TOD plan: http://www.honolulu.gov/rep/site/dpp...pted_small.pdf

Honolulu also has a website dedicated to all the TOD planning a long the rail route

Link: http://www.honolulu.gov/tod/dpp-tod-home.html
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Old April 29th, 2017, 03:49 AM   #587
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State lawmakers reach agreement on plan to extend funding for Honolulu rail project

http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/story/3...u-rail-project

Lawmakers Strike Deal to Fund Honolulu Rail Project With Higher Hotel Taxes

http://www.civilbeat.org/2017/04/hou...-rail-project/

Lawmakers’ last-minute proposal would raise hotel tax for rail

http://www.staradvertiser.com/2017/0...-tax-for-rail/

Despite all the political theater I knew they would reach an agreement.
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Old May 24th, 2017, 08:35 AM   #588
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Old May 25th, 2017, 10:58 AM   #589
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This thread hasn't been updated in a while so here was the last big thing to happen recently...
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RAIL DEAL COLLAPSES AS HOUSE, SENATE DISAGREE ON HOW TO FUND IT

Published: Tuesday, May 2nd 2017, 9:14 am HST
Updated: Tuesday, May 2nd 2017, 8:23 pm HST

By Rick Daysog, Reporter
By Ashley Nagaoka, Reporter

HONOLULU (HawaiiNewsNow) -
In a dramatic turnabout, state senators have rejected a deal on rail funding reached Monday night with House lawmakers, putting in jeopardy any agreement on how to pay for the beleaguered project.

Mayor withdraws support for rail funding plan, citing legal concerns
In report to feds, rail authority outlines plan B: Get to Aloha Tower
If the House and Senate can't agree on how to fund the rail project by Tuesday night, the session could end with no deal on the issue.

On Tuesday afternoon, senators voted 16-to-9 to support a 10-year extension of the rail tax surcharge to help fund the rail project, something the city has advocated for.

In doing so, they rejected a deal reached with the House late Monday that would have sought funding for rail by increasing the hotel room tax.

"The biggest issue that really struck all of us was that this plan that was concocted was done at the 11th hour by a privileged few," state Sen. Kaialii Kahele said of the House bill.

"That didn't give the industry and opportunity to comment. It didn't give the counties the opportunity to weigh in. And most importantly, it didn't give the public the opportunity to weigh in on this proposal."

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Copyright Hawaii News Now.
Full article ----> http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/story/3...l-tax-increase

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The state Legislature is marred by secrecy, political maneuvering and zero progress on rail

By Kevin Dayton
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May 7, 2017

Analysis

It is an odd-numbered year so most voters probably won't notice or remember, but this was not the finest hour for Hawaii's elected officials, or for openness in government.

The most obvious misstep was the state Legislature's embarrassing failure during its regular 60-day session to adopt a clear policy -any policy- to cope with the city's inability to cover runaway cost increases for its 20-mile train project.

Should city government, which was supposed to control costs and manage the project, raise the money to cover rail's estimated $3 billion shortfall? Or should the tourists pay for it? Or should it be all of Oahu's residents who pay, from the richest to the poorest?

No one knows, because lawmakers couldn't agree on a bill.

[...]

Copyright Honolulu Star-Advertiser.
Full article ---->http://www.staradvertiser.com/2017/0...-fail-on-rail/ (Title comes from the Sunday 5/7/17 Edition)


PR side of the project hasn't really been too active other than posters and doing displays at Ala Moana and Pearl Ridge Shopping centers.

Also the light rail alternative resurfaced again having purchased a full page ad space in the star advertiser in Thursday 4/27/17 which isn't much, but their still making an effort.

Also this from Dec 15, 2016 :-/

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Old May 26th, 2017, 01:51 AM   #590
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My last post on this thread was just a little too soon as the deal to fund the rail in the state legislature fell apart

However I'm confident the legislature will call a special session and get the needed funding for this project. I've heard from many sources they should call a special session this summer. Democrats who control both the Senate and House have reorganized the committees to be more favorable to rail by putting pro-rail and outer island legislators in important committee positions. This allows them to move a rail funding bill along without feeling any repercussions from their own constituents.

I'm confident they will finish the project and either extend the GET Surcharge or find a new tax.

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Old May 29th, 2017, 11:21 AM   #591
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Rail Station updates 5/26/2017

First I think I see the first gear for the new contractor for the next phase of the rail guideline. The vehicles were parked at the now empty lot for the future Lagoon Drive station. Sorry no picts.

First shot, Aloha Station, with no noticeable new construction.
Rail station updates 3 by cre8ive na8ive, on Flickr

No noticeable progress at the Pearlridge Center station

Cement columns going up at the Pearl Highlands station
Rail station updates 3 by cre8ive na8ive, on Flickr
Rail station updates 3 by cre8ive na8ive, on Flickr

Leeward Community College station under the new road so cant see updates and no noticeable progress above ground but lots of activity.
Rail station updates 3 by cre8ive na8ive, on Flickr
Rail station updates 3 by cre8ive na8ive, on Flickr

Lots of activity and some progress for the rest of the stations heading west.

Waipahu Transit station has lots of heavy equipment there working, digging, drilling, etc.
Rail Station updates 2 by cre8ive na8ive, on Flickr
Rail Station updates 2 by cre8ive na8ive, on Flickr

West Loch station
Rail Station updates 2 by cre8ive na8ive, on Flickr

To be continued
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Rail Station updates 5/26/2017 part 2

More on West Loch station in west Waipahu. Note big white steel bridge waiting to go up. According to local news it went up last night. Photos shortly.
Rail Station updates 2 by cre8ive na8ive, on Flickr
Rail Station updates 2 by cre8ive na8ive, on Flickr

Hoopili station in the city center of the future 3rd City. Note cement wood forms are finally off. I suspect this station was an experiment (the first)on how to build these station above ground at rail guideway level. Here they use tons of scaffoldings which seemed slow, while the rest of the stations are now using large steel supports to build the station platforms. It seems a lot faster.
Rail Station updates 2 by cre8ive na8ive, on Flickr

UH West Oahu station
Rail station updates 1 by cre8ive na8ive, on Flickr
Rail station updates 1 by cre8ive na8ive, on Flickr

East Kapolei station
Rail station updates 1 by cre8ive na8ive, on Flickr
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West Loch station's new pedestrian bridge

Brighter West Loch station pedestrian bridge by cre8ive na8ive, on Flickr

As a reference here is an early rendering of the station from the HART official website.

West Loch Station rendering 2 by cre8ive na8ive, on Flickr

Sorry for the night shot, I couldn't wait to see the bridge up. Looks like this prefab mental work is the way to go. This is a significant construction milestone for Honolulu rail.
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Old May 31st, 2017, 01:17 AM   #594
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it's finally out!
they're doing the first rail tests today it seems
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Old May 31st, 2017, 01:50 AM   #595
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Good to see that they're doing some tests. The 1st segment will be opening in the next few years between East Kapolei and Aloha Stadium, followed by the next segment of Pearl Harbour Naval Base to Middle St.

Sometime this summer they should be calling a special session to finalize the rail funding for the remaining stations.
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Couple good shots of rail tests from the StarAvertiser website

image by cre8ive na8ive, on Flickr
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Yesterday was a simple clearance test for the track and the rail cars were pushed from the back (see yellow maintenance vehicle in couple of these posts). News reports say the rail cars will be on the tracts later this year for many tests with their own power.
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Another rail test pict from Pacific Business News website

Photo from Pacific Business News on rail test 01-30-17 by cre8ive na8ive, on Flickr
One can imagine the future in this photo and it looks good.
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some rail news....

State lawmakers vow to hold special session on rail within next 2 months
http://www.staradvertiser.com/2017/0...next-2-months/

Lawmakers seek to reassure feds with pledge to hold special session on rail funding shortfall
http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/story/3...u-rail-project

Special session likely as lawmakers promise rail funding resolution
http://khon2.com/2017/06/19/special-...ng-resolution/
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Lawmakers aim to convene in late August for rail special session

http://khon2.com/2017/07/07/lawmaker...ecial-session/

Aug. 28 to Sept. 1 will be the dates for special session.
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How is Honolulu paying $10bn for what is mostly an overground version of the Copenhagen Metro? That seems so insanely costly.
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