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Old February 27th, 2006, 11:26 PM   #321
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So many bloody cranes. Dubai is pretty ugly as of now with cranes and stuff everywhere but in like 5 years it'll look so great!!!
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Old February 27th, 2006, 11:42 PM   #322
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Nice pictures AltinD...


I have a question about these "endcaps" on Burj Dubai. What are these things for and what's with the dense scaffolding? Also they look like they can support so much more weiight than the rest of the building. The rest of the building looks "flimsy" compared to these:


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Old February 28th, 2006, 12:13 AM   #323
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Nice, its moving fast, when is it expected to be completed?
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Old February 28th, 2006, 12:15 AM   #324
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If anything, those endcaps, as you call them, seem separate from the main core of the structure, making them solely responsible for bearing the weight directly above them...and because they have such a small area compared to the rest of the building, these endcaps cannot support more weight than the rest of the structure. By the way, the main core is anything but "flimsy"...
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Old February 28th, 2006, 12:20 AM   #325
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This is what they are:

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Old February 28th, 2006, 12:38 AM   #326
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That makes more sense. A post a few days ago showed the wings to be part of the lower structures. I too was wondering why they needed these enormous concrete columns if they are only rising like ~5 floor. Looks like these will go up about 25 floors or so at the minimum. Thanks for the clarification malec.
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Old February 28th, 2006, 12:47 AM   #327
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malec, thanks for pointing that out for me. Still, why does it look different than the rest of the building?


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If anything, those endcaps, as you call them, seem separate from the main core of the structure, making them solely responsible for bearing the weight directly above them...and because they have such a small area compared to the rest of the building, these endcaps cannot support more weight than the rest of the structure. By the way, the main core is anything but "flimsy"...

I used the word flimsy because those thick concrete cylindars look much stronger than the thinner looking walls of the building. I'm no structural engineer so I know that these people know what they're doing.
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Old February 28th, 2006, 03:25 AM   #328
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So many bloody cranes. Dubai is pretty ugly as of now with cranes and stuff everywhere but in like 5 years it'll look so great!!!
Infact, I love crains!
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Old February 28th, 2006, 04:03 AM   #329
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Great pics. the weather looks great!
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Old February 28th, 2006, 06:17 AM   #330
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^ I'm sure it's damn hot though.
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Old February 28th, 2006, 06:47 AM   #331
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^ not yet
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Old February 28th, 2006, 03:18 PM   #332
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Climbing forms to be reconfigured.

That's my guess anyway, based on X-sectional plans we have
seen. The wings have risen to the point of the first setback.
The "nosecones" ("endcaps"?) will rise to this point and then
stop. However, the next tiers of the wings will have to transform
from being a wall to being columns to allow views out the end of
the wings, as the plans suggest.

The question I have is: can this happen any time? I get the sense
that we need to wait for the floorplates annd "nosecones" to rise to the right height. Then a transition will occur where the combination of all three will go through the transformation, before the wings can rise further. This will
be necessary to support the "new nosecones", which will be setback
from the "current nosecones" but will still lie slightly outside of where the
current outer wing wall is.

Just my speculation, but let's see......any other guessers as to what will
happen next?

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Old February 28th, 2006, 03:29 PM   #333
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The end (nose sections) are no stronger than the box wall structure beside them, in terms of load capasity. They look bigger and stronger because they are columns, but have roughly the same volume of concrete as the walls beside them. They are bonded to the core segment next to them much the same as the core segment is bonded to the main central core, (through the floor slabs and walls). This is done by distressing the surface of the existing concrete, tieing in re-bar where neccessary and then casting over. This then firmly connects the otherwise independent structures.

The tower's structural height will be 700m. The spire is still being designed by my colleagues. The final height will be around 750m.
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Old February 28th, 2006, 03:40 PM   #334
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and you are who, exactly..
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Old February 28th, 2006, 05:40 PM   #335
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I wonder if any Discovery Channel or National Geographic team is filming the construction of the Tower...
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Old February 28th, 2006, 05:51 PM   #336
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OMG, Dubai's like the new Manhatten!!!!!

I wud love to visit Dubai in the future
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Old March 1st, 2006, 04:03 AM   #337
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The tower's structural height will be 700m. The spire is still being designed by my colleagues. The final height will be around 750m.
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Quote:
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The end (nose sections) are no stronger than the box wall structure beside them, in terms of load capasity. They look bigger and stronger because they are columns, but have roughly the same volume of concrete as the walls beside them. They are bonded to the core segment next to them much the same as the core segment is bonded to the main central core, (through the floor slabs and walls). This is done by distressing the surface of the existing concrete, tieing in re-bar where neccessary and then casting over. This then firmly connects the otherwise independent structures.

The tower's structural height will be 700m. The spire is still being designed by my colleagues. The final height will be around 750m.
Is this structural height confirmed and official?
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Old March 1st, 2006, 06:51 AM   #339
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I wonder what the value of the property is around Dubai...most of it is undeveloped with no infrastructure..and it's desert. But it will soar incredibly in the next few years.
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Old March 1st, 2006, 07:39 AM   #340
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Сan't wait for it to be finished
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