daily menu » rate the banner | guess the city | one on oneforums map | privacy policy | DMCA | news magazine | posting guidelines

Go Back   SkyscraperCity > World Development News Forums > General Urban Developments > DN Archives



Global Announcement

As a general reminder, please respect others and respect copyrights. Go here to familiarize yourself with our posting policy.


Reply

 
Thread Tools
Old February 1st, 2006, 09:02 PM   #21
Momo1435
-----アンジュルム-----
 
Momo1435's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: アルフェナンデンライン
Posts: 34,622
Likes (Received): 61201

Is the podium going up to the point where the yellow screens are on the last pics?

And yes, I will be very nice to my mommy
__________________
Support your Idols
キタ ━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━ ฅ(๑⊙д⊙๑)ฅ!! ━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━!!!
Japan Projects & Construction
Momo1435 no está en línea   Reply With Quote

Sponsored Links
Old February 2nd, 2006, 12:54 AM   #22
Peter The Great
Registered User
 
Peter The Great's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Toronto
Posts: 268
Likes (Received): 9

How will the elevator system work in this building? Number of elevators? Speed? I'm guessing it must be unlike any other skyscraper in teh world.
Peter The Great no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old February 2nd, 2006, 01:04 AM   #23
Urban Dave
In Urbanity I Trust
 
Urban Dave's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Urban Area
Posts: 15,100
Likes (Received): 1518

Great! Tomorrow we will have an update!
Urban Dave no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old February 2nd, 2006, 02:11 AM   #24
CULWULLA
Registered User
 
CULWULLA's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Posts: 62,760
Likes (Received): 10143

Quote:
Originally Posted by Peter The Great
How will the elevator system work in this building? Number of elevators? Speed? I'm guessing it must be unlike any other skyscraper in teh world.
passenger lifts have medical limitations. There have been suggestions recently that the lifts in the Burj Dubai will be slowed, after advice that projected speeds of 18 metres a second (about 65 kmh) could put people with heart problems at risk. They are now expected to travel at about 10mpsec/35kmh.
__________________
Sydney Harbour Bridge -1932, Sydney Opera House- 1973, Sydney Tower- 1981, Crown Sydney- 2020.. https://www.buildsydney.com/forum

Last edited by CULWULLA; February 2nd, 2006 at 02:20 AM.
CULWULLA no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old February 2nd, 2006, 04:45 AM   #25
depressio
Lime and limpid green
 
depressio's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Chicago
Posts: 293
Likes (Received): 15

Quote:
Originally Posted by virtual
How high is it now?
I'd estimate at least 25-30 stories... so maybe 300'/100M?
depressio no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old February 2nd, 2006, 09:26 AM   #26
Indica
Top of the World
 
Indica's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Los Angeles, CA (Marina del Rey)
Posts: 368
Likes (Received): 156

Quote:
Originally Posted by CULWULLA
passenger lifts have medical limitations. There have been suggestions recently that the lifts in the Burj Dubai will be slowed, after advice that projected speeds of 18 metres a second (about 65 kmh) could put people with heart problems at risk. They are now expected to travel at about 10mpsec/35kmh.
I know, I was kinda let down on hearing that they are going to slow down those lifts. 65kmh sounded like a lot of fun!!
__________________
Just call me "Mr. Helpdesk"
Indica no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old February 2nd, 2006, 09:32 AM   #27
The-Real-Link
The-Real-Link!!
 
The-Real-Link's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 752
Likes (Received): 300

Quote:
Originally Posted by Indica
I know, I was kinda let down on hearing that they are going to slow down those lifts. 65kmh sounded like a lot of fun!!
As silly as it may sound, same here... Does anyone know if the elevators in Taipei 101 are still at their current speeds (from what I heard they still are)? Although I'm sure that it varies between laws per country on what speeds and accelerations are considered safe for travel, does anyone know how Dubai's or the UAE's restrictions on this subject compare to that of Taiwan? 10m/sec is still really fast, but one would *think* that by having the tallest building that the elevators should follow suit because of the distance to cover.
The-Real-Link no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old February 2nd, 2006, 10:02 AM   #28
Mosaic
BANGKOK
 
Mosaic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Bangkok
Posts: 13,302
Likes (Received): 758

Can't wait to see it reaches to 500++meters height.
Mosaic no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old February 2nd, 2006, 04:22 PM   #29
Dubai-Lover
Construction Paradise
 
Dubai-Lover's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Dubai (UAE) | Oehringen (GER) | Bad Honnef (GER)
Posts: 12,390
Likes (Received): 5

coming out of the difc construction site, driving towards the burj dubai complex

a sea of cranes awaits you

[IMG]http://i1.************/n2g395.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://i1.************/n2g3k6.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://i1.************/n2g3ky.jpg[/IMG]
__________________
Dubai-Lover no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old February 2nd, 2006, 04:29 PM   #30
Dubai-Lover
Construction Paradise
 
Dubai-Lover's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Dubai (UAE) | Oehringen (GER) | Bad Honnef (GER)
Posts: 12,390
Likes (Received): 5

and i've just entered the site
[IMG]http://i1.************/n2g3tk.jpg[/IMG]



from my favorite spot
damn, they have closed roads and opened new ones as they now start work on a "mock up lake"

[IMG]http://i1.************/n2g3zq.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://i1.************/n2g46b.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://i1.************/n2g47l.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://i1.************/n2g49f.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://i1.************/n2g4dx.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://i1.************/n2g4f5.jpg[/IMG]



and on the way back out of the site
[IMG]http://i1.************/n2g4k4.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://i1.************/n2g4lj.jpg[/IMG]

close to the exit passing by the dubai mall, where they partially started installing the facade
[IMG]http://i1.************/n2g4n7.jpg[/IMG]



and from the other side of the complex behind the dubai mall having a look over the central part of the whole complex
[IMG]http://i1.************/n2g5zs.jpg[/IMG]
__________________
Dubai-Lover no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old February 2nd, 2006, 04:33 PM   #31
warnings
BANNED
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 371
Likes (Received): 0

thik hain
warnings no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old February 2nd, 2006, 05:23 PM   #32
dubaiflo
Back in the Sandpit
 
dubaiflo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Munich | Dubai | London
Posts: 15,037
Likes (Received): 35

great photos dennis, the site is so huge, unbelievable.

Quote:
Originally Posted by depressio
I'd estimate at least 25-30 stories... so maybe 300'/100M?

check here http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=312653

and here http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=312675


---------

new article:

Burned once, oil producers approach new price boom cautiously
By Jad Mouawad and Eduardo Porter The New York Times

WEDNESDAY, FEBRUARY 1, 2006

DUBAI, United Arab Emirates In a city of superlatives, Burj Dubai is supposed to top them all.

The Burj, whose name means tower in Arabic, is set to become the world's tallest skyscraper in 2008, looming to a height of more than 790 meters, or 2,600 feet, in a new neighborhood of offices and residential buildings.

But more important, the rival to Burj Dubai's dizzying heights will not be the current title holder, Taipei 101, at 510 meters, or even Freedom Tower, in New York, at its symbolic height of 540 meters.

Past the Mall of the Emirates, which as the only indoor skiing slope in the Middle East, past the artificial islands shaped like palm trees and past the Burj Al Arab, which looks like a giant sail and offers rooms for as much as $13,900 for a single night, another developer is planning a tower 700 meters tall. Known as Al Burj, or The Tower, it will be the hub of a residential village for half a million people.

Or will it?


Once again, countries on the Arabian peninsula are going through an oil boom, the third in three decades. And just as in the 1970s and 1980s, their coffers are spilling over with cash, and they will be tempted again to spend lavishly.

But despite the extravagance on display in Dubai, which with little oil is going all-out to become a financial and commercial center, the region's main producers, from Saudi Arabia to Kuwait, are behaving in a much more disciplined fashion.

Haunted by memories of the busts that followed prior booms, most governments have so far behaved cautiously and privately and are only now beginning to loosen up their purse strings.

"The question many have in the region is how not to squander the wealth like they did in the 1970s," said Rachel Bronson, a specialist on Saudi Arabia at the Council on Foreign Relations in New York.

Deep within the halls of the Ministries Complexes in Kuwait City, a vast cluster of buildings that houses the country's government, Bader al-Saad, who runs the Kuwait Investment Authority from a large office just next door to the finance minister, speaks to the region's new-found fiscal sophistication.


"People are asking where are all the petrodollars and why we have not seen anything like the spending of the '70s and '80s," Saad said in a recent interview. "The truth is, a lot of the petrodollars are being reinvested domestically. I think in the fiscal policy there are a lot of lessons that have been learned from previous experience"


In interviews in Saudi Arabia, Kuwait and Dubai over the past two months, dozens of local analysts and policy makers have made the same point.

Oil producers have wised up. More money is saved than ever before; more jobs are being created in the private sector; real estate and stock markets are booming; and governments are encouraging a diversification of their economies to move them away from oil's increasingly volatile cycles.

Part of the reason, of course, is that the region's governments face a much larger and younger population than they did three decades ago, forcing them to diversify to create jobs.

Saudi Arabia's recent entry into the World Trade Organization, for example, after 12 years of negotiations, illustrates the kingdom's new priorities in terms of economic growth and development.

Saudi Arabia is confronting its expensive missteps of the 1980s, when for example, it tried to used its oil windfall to become an agricultural powerhouse. It spent billions of dollars to irrigate the kingdom's arid lands and grow crops. In less than a decade, it became the world's sixth-largest wheat producer.


But eventually oil prices collapsed, the Saudi government ran out of money, and food production plummeted for lack of subsidies. The valiant, costly effort to make the desert bloom proved a mixed success. Along with palatial resorts in the south of France and customized Boeing 747s, the attempt joined a the long list of financial follies.


"Unlike in the United States, where it feels like high prices are going to last forever, in the Middle East, the feeling is that it will not last," Bronson said. "So how do you avoid the problems of the 1980s that followed the boom of the 1970s?"

One sign of the conservative outlook prevailing among finance ministries around the Gulf is that governments are still drawing up their budgets based on oil at $30 a barrel, nearly half of the current price, said Mohsin Khan, the director for the Middle East and Central Asia at the International Monetary Fund.

Analysts following the oil policies of Organization of the Petroleum Exporting Countries members say the group is seeking to defend a minimum price of $55 a barrel and, if needed, would be willing to cut production to maintain prices above that level. That policy, never voiced officially by any OPEC representative, is meant to avoid a repeat of the 1998 price collapse, which nearly bankrupted producers.

The difficulty in forecasting oil prices helps explain why, with few exceptions, the region's oil states have not significantly increased their investment in public projects.

And regional governments have also used part of their stash to pay down debt, reducing it from about 40 percent of gross domestic product in 2004, on average, to 20 percent last year.

After the 1973 oil shock, government spending in the Middle East swallowed more than 80 percent of the increase in government revenue. Between 2003 and 2005, by contrast, public spending took up less than 40 percent of the new revenue, according to IMF estimates.

Much of the rest went into savings that are now being recycled into investments around the globe. Last year, Dubai bought $1 billion of DaimlerChrysler shares; it purchased Tussauds Group, Europe's largest tourist-attractions operator; and it made a $5.8 billion bid for Peninsular & Oriental Steam Navigation, a British shipping company.

Other governments are doing the same, including the investment arms of Abu Dhabi and Kuwait, which have both been in talks to buy a chunk of Industrial & Commercial Bank of China.

Abu Dhabi's investment arm is believed to be managing more than $250 billion, for example. The Kuwait Investment Authority receives 10 percent of the country's oil sales and controls a fund estimated at more than $100 billion.

Much of the Arab world's new wealth ends up in the United States, in Treasury bonds, as well as in corporate and other government debt instruments and helps fund America's enormous trade deficit.
dubaiflo no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old February 2nd, 2006, 05:25 PM   #33
Bikes
sababa
 
Bikes's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Warsaw, Stockholm, Budapest, Berlin
Posts: 3,422
Likes (Received): 2674

SUPERB!
__________________
Dubai Marina Yachts
Bikes no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old February 2nd, 2006, 05:35 PM   #34
spotila
SSC Mapper
 
spotila's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: New Zealand
Posts: 1,584
Likes (Received): 221

brilliant updates, thanks so much
spotila no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old February 2nd, 2006, 06:31 PM   #35
Skyscrapercitizen
TIMBY
 
Skyscrapercitizen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Rotterdam
Posts: 33,037
Likes (Received): 5433

Amazing update! It is becoming big now!
__________________
Tower In My BackYard!
Skyscrapercitizen está en línea ahora   Reply With Quote
Old February 2nd, 2006, 07:43 PM   #36
System_Halted
Head Knockin' Forever
 
System_Halted's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Ankara
Posts: 13,082
Likes (Received): 1972

really impressive
__________________
(° ͜ʖ ͡°)

Architects have unique dreams. Fortunately, engineers have unique solutions...

System_Halted no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old February 2nd, 2006, 09:47 PM   #37
Bender
Rugged Individualist
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Düsseldorf, Le Reich
Posts: 3,073
Likes (Received): 112

No need to say that this update is a wonder.

What facade are you talking about? I can't see anything.
Bender no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old February 2nd, 2006, 10:00 PM   #38
Bender
Rugged Individualist
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Düsseldorf, Le Reich
Posts: 3,073
Likes (Received): 112

Now we know Dubai Lover drives a Mercedes
Bender no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old February 2nd, 2006, 10:13 PM   #39
www.sercan.de
Galatasaray SK
 
www.sercan.de's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Istanbul
Posts: 27,950
Likes (Received): 2719

^
yeah
is it E-Class?
__________________
International titles of Galatasaray SK
UEFA Europa League (1): 2000
UEFA Super Cup (1): 2000

ULEB Eurocup (1): 2016

FIBA EuroLeague Women (1): 2014
FIBA EuroCup Women (1): 2009

IWBF Champions Cup (5): 2008, 2009, 2011, 2013, 2014
IWBF André Vergauwen Cup (1): 2017
IWBF Intercontinental Cup (4): 2008, 2009, 2011, 2012

EJU Golden League (1): 2014
www.sercan.de no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old February 3rd, 2006, 12:24 AM   #40
dubaiflo
Back in the Sandpit
 
dubaiflo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Munich | Dubai | London
Posts: 15,037
Likes (Received): 35

it is, white, e220 , but not his own
dubaiflo no está en línea   Reply With Quote


Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Related topics on SkyscraperCity


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 03:27 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Feedback Buttons provided by Advanced Post Thanks / Like (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2017 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

vBulletin Optimisation provided by vB Optimise (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2017 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

SkyscraperCity ☆ In Urbanity We trust ☆ about us | privacy policy | DMCA policy

Hosted by Blacksun, dedicated to this site too!
Forum server management by DaiTengu