Milton Court - "The Heron" | City of London | 112m | 36 fl | T/O

[jef]

It should go together with the three residential towers that ruin the skyline.
Otherwise, Barbican is fine.

[wjfox]

Originally Posted by london lad

http://newsvote.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magaz...N#vote_6222792

I'm glad to see the majority of viewers have the sense to recognize this building for what it really is - a hideous concrete carbuncle from the worst period of architecture this country has ever seen. I'm tired of all this sentimentality about buildings which are, when it comes down to it, extremely ugly and outdated.

London desperately needs more housing, especially around its centre, and this would be a prime site for a towering glass residential skyscraper. I look forward to seeing the revised proposal.

[Smoggie_Si]

Originally Posted by wjfox2002

I'm glad to see the majority of viewers have the sense to recognize this building for what it really is - a hideous concrete carbuncle from the worst period of architecture this country has ever seen.

Will that is an incredibly arrogant, condescending and presumptous thing to say.
Aesthetics are a subjective thing, I have conceded in several posts that I love Milton Court but can see the reasons for other people disliking it. Yet you refuse to consider other peoples opinions as being valid, considering them as fools.

If you feel that my liking brutalist architecture means that I have no sense then so be it.

[Varenukha]

Originally Posted by wjfox2002

I'm glad to see the majority of viewers have the sense to recognize this building for what it really is - a hideous concrete carbuncle from the worst period of architecture this country has ever seen. I'm tired of all this sentimentality about buildings which are, when it comes down to it, extremely ugly and outdated.

London desperately needs more housing, especially around its centre, and this would be a prime site for a towering glass residential skyscraper. I look forward to seeing the revised proposal.

Actually, all 64% (not a massive majority) of respondents did was to state they think it should be torn down, not all the rest.

Personally I for one do not need this kind of cheap poll to provide me with reassurance about opinions that I hold. I do happen to very much dislike this period of architecture, but I also respect the views of those who do not agree with me, and who have a soft spot for buildings such as this. I do not feel any more justified in my views just because lots of others agree, any more than I reconsider beliefs simply because I find myself in the minority.

However, I too look forward to seeing a revised proposal that improves on both the rejected plan AND the likes of Shakespeare Tower on the Barbican site. It is such an important location surely some architect is up to the challenge?

[Smoggie_Si]

Originally Posted by Varenukha

Personally I for one do not need this kind of cheap poll to provide me with reassurance about opinions that I hold. I do happen to very much dislike this period of architecture, but I also respect the views of those who do not agree with me, and who have a soft spot for buildings such as this. I do not feel any more justified in my views just because lots of others agree, any more than I reconsider beliefs simply because I find myself in the minority.

If we are to quote populist polls then lets not forget that the BBC top 10 nominations of most buildings for demolition last year included the Gherkin

Originally Posted by Varenukha

However, I too look forward to seeing a revised proposal that improves on both the rejected plan AND the likes of Shakespeare Tower on the Barbican site. It is such an important location surely some architect is up to the challenge?

Agreed, if I were a betting man I'd wager that sadly Milton Court will bite the dust and if that is the case want to see something really high quality to replace it and drive the Moorgate/Barbican area forward with a lot more panache than Ropemaker can muster!

[Gherkin]

Originally Posted by Smoggie_Si

... lets not forget that the BBC top 10 nominations of most buildings for demolition last year included the Gherkin

... but didn't include Guys Tower, probably the most raped building on London's skyline. It makes the south bank look like a collection of Russian commie-blocks.

[Cabman]

I had a look at Milton Court yesterday and despite it being the oldest example of brutalism in the Barbican I can't see much in the way of quality in the design. Maybe it's the poor maintenance and the way the building has aged very badly. Having said that this type of building can be restored, just look at the Brunswick centre how that has been succesfully updated.

However if demolition is the answer then I think something more like this is more apropriate than the current proposal.

[nukey]

^
god, thats such a nice project... I wish we were getting more stuff like that around london... looks like great massing and nice cladding.

[Madman]

I think they should go for something more adventurous than that, the aesthetic brutality of the architecture of the barbican complex i think means you can get away with something much more radical (maybe even a Lebbeus Woods or CJ Lim creation... or not )

[JDRS]

Where's that being built? It looks great!

[potto]

isnt it elephant and castle?

[GazKinz]

Yeah it's part of Oakmayne Plaza

[lyonsdown]

I am certain you won't see that idealised terracey thing happening!

[london lad]

A revised scheme is in.

It looks like it is now 34 storeys & 127m & is more boxy. Another dumbed down design then.

http://www.planning.cityoflondon.gov...IA&docid=97380

http://www.planning.cityoflondon.gov...6/01160/FULEIA

[ill tonkso]

It better complements Citypoint now though.

ALso, off topic, this pic must be from 1999/2000

Citypoint, another underated tower.

[DarJoLe]

Hahaha that new proposal is foul. Who wants to live in a building similar to what is being demolished one street away on London Wall?

I could shit out a better design than that.

[Medo]

That's just pathetic.

[mulattokid]

A lot of peopl moaned about the hideous design of the last design....now the baby has been thrown out with the bathwater!

[delores]

another refridgerator on the horizon, atleast the last proposal aimed to break up the massing, this is just plain crap but i dare say effecient.

[mulattokid]

^ that what I liked about the last proposal...it looked like several slim buildings