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Old June 26th, 2007, 03:09 PM   #141
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Really good disable friendly facilties... ...something that's missing from KL's monorail and LRT stations . The BRT benefit all Jakartans as a whole..no one left out it seems.
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Old June 27th, 2007, 08:07 AM   #142
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they didnt get the articulated buses for the Kg. Melayu -Ancol line? Ah., too bad, it would have been interesting to see.

Great work in Jakarta, look forward to going back just to use the network.

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Old June 28th, 2007, 04:27 PM   #143
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they didnt get the articulated buses for the Kg. Melayu -Ancol line? Ah., too bad, it would have been interesting to see.

Great work in Jakarta, look forward to going back just to use the network.

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they get articulated Buses Just arrived



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There's possibility that next year, all corridor 1 buses will be taken over by government and the company must procure brand new articulated buses. That's why we see different size of shelters in corridor 1 like in KARET or DUKUH ATAS which have multiple doors.
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Old July 2nd, 2007, 12:24 PM   #144
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impressive...I would definitely look at that as a success story....

Any info on the manufacturer of the buses? It looks like they will have sweep-doors instead of the sliding ones

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Old July 2nd, 2007, 06:33 PM   #145
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not sure abt that

from i know those Buses manufactured in China
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Old August 21st, 2007, 08:05 PM   #146
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Construction of Jakarta MRT to start in 2010
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The central government and the city administration will start work in 2010 on an ambitious project to develop a Mass Rapid Transit (MRT) system for Jakarta, the Transportation Ministry said Monday.

Unveiling the time schedule for the project Monday, Transportation Ministry secretary general Wendy Aritenang, the chairman of the MRT steering committee, said construction was expected to complete by the end of 2014.

The MRT development, which is projected to swallow more than Rp 8.3 trillion ($902 million) in investment, will stretch 14.3 kilometers from Lebak Bulus in South Jakarta to Dukuh Atas in Central Jakarta.

The project would use soft loans from the Japan Bank for International Cooperation.

"This project will eventually integrate with other transportation modes, such as Jakarta's busway, monorail and waterway (taxi)," said steering committee vice chairman Fauzi Bowo, the incumbent Jakarta Deputy Governor and winner of the recent city gubernatorial election.

"Moreover, the project will automatically place Jakarta alongside modern cities such as Hong Kong, New Delhi, Bangkok, Seoul, Tokyo and Singapore."

The administration is also planning a US$480 million monorail project, the financing for which is still being negotiated with a local banking consortium. The monorail project is expected to be complete by 2010.

The administration also plans to build three new busway corridors by the end of this year, adding to the existing seven corridors, and reaching toward the planned total of 15.

Prospects have looked less bright for the waterway system, with low water levels caused by drought and solid waste forcing the administration to suspend water taxi services.

The administration allocated Rp 35 billion in the city budget this year to buy land affected by the transportation projects, Fauzi said.

According to Soemino Eko Saputro, the director general for railway transportation at the ministry, the government would pay 42 percent of the loans provided by the Japanese bank, while the administration would cover the remainder. The loan will carry a 0.2 percent interest rate per annum, a 10 year grace period and a 30-year period until maturity.

"The projected amount of Rp 8.3 trillion is based on a preliminary evaluation conducted by an advisory team consisting of experts from Japan and Indonesia," Soemino said.

"The Japanese bank will provide soft loans based on the actual amount to be concluded after PT Mass Rapid Transportation Corporation finishes its detailed design."

Fauzi said the MRT steering committee would select 20 to 40 people by the end of the year to sit as top officials at the company to be responsible both for the project and operations, PT Mass Rapid.

The company would be required to complete a detailed design for the project by next year.

The trains planned for use in the MRT project will travel at an average cruising speed of 26 km per hour and will be able to carry 400,000 passengers a day from Lebak Bulus to Dukuh Atas within 32 minutes.

The MRT system will have seven aboveground stations for the 11 km stretch between Lebak Bulus and Senayan, South Jakarta, and will pass as an underground subway for the remaining 3.3 km through to Dukuh Atas.

The construction phase of the project is expected to employ nearly 50,000 workers.
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Old August 23rd, 2007, 09:55 AM   #147
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This one though are surface / commuter rails though kinda like the KCR in HK.
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Old August 23rd, 2007, 01:23 PM   #148
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Indonesia to build railroad to Jakarta airport

JAKARTA, Aug 22 (Reuters) - Indonesia plans to build a railway line linking Jakarta with the main Soekarno-Hatta international airport in an effort to ease the city's traffic problems, the railroad operator's chief said on Wednesday.

PT RaiLink expects to wrap up the 18-km (11-mile) railroad by 2009 and predicts it will ferry around 9 million passengers a year, the company's president director, Masjraul Hidayat, told Reuters.

The 1.7 trillion rupiah ($180.2 million) project is part of the government's ongoing efforts to ease traffic in the city where roads are clogged from morning until night with cars, motorcycles and ageing smoke-belching buses.

"We expect to carry around 20-30 percent of passengers travelling to and from the airport. According to our recent survey, there were about 30 million passengers travelling via Soekarno-Hatta airport in 2006," Hidayat said.

He said RaiLink, a joint venture firm between state-owned railway company PT Kereta Api and state-owned airport operator PT Angkasa Pura II, was still considering options to finance the projects. He did not elaborate.

Jakarta, which has around 9 million people living within its city limits and another five million in sprawling suburban districts, has no subway or light railway services.

A monorail system is also under construction, but the project has suffered from funding problems, partners dropping out and general red tape.

A mass rapid transit system in the capital is also ultimately planned at an estimated cost of 9 trillion rupiah.

The government needs around $140 billion to finance development of infrastructure projects such as ports, toll roads, and railways in a bid to quicken economic growth and reduce unemployment between 2005 and 2009. ($1 = 9,435 rupiah)
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Old August 24th, 2007, 08:33 AM   #149
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This one though are surface / commuter rails though kinda like the KCR in HK.
except there are more trains, frequency is lower, and there are about 5 million more people in the greater Jakarta area....

and iirc, very few large roads...

they are in desperate need of mass-transit...but at least they got something started with the BRT...better to have a decent BRT and organized buses than a monorail that is just pillars only

One day all of those BRT lines could be converted to subway lines...afaik there are currently 5 BRT operating, and 2 under construction.

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Old August 24th, 2007, 01:12 PM   #150
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Jakarta seems similar to Bangkok in terms of mass transit problems.
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Old August 24th, 2007, 01:35 PM   #151
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except there are more trains, frequency is lower, and there are about 5 million more people in the greater Jakarta area....

and iirc, very few large roads...

they are in desperate need of mass-transit...but at least they got something started with the BRT...better to have a decent BRT and organized buses than a monorail that is just pillars only

One day all of those BRT lines could be converted to subway lines...afaik there are currently 5 BRT operating, and 2 under construction.

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actually there are 7 corridors in operation, and 3 new corridors under construction. info: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TransJakarta

yes i have a hope that someday these busway lines can be turned into subway lines
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Old August 24th, 2007, 02:27 PM   #152
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except there are more trains, frequency is lower, and there are about 5 million more people in the greater Jakarta area....

and iirc, very few large roads...

they are in desperate need of mass-transit...but at least they got something started with the BRT...better to have a decent BRT and organized buses than a monorail that is just pillars only

One day all of those BRT lines could be converted to subway lines...afaik there are currently 5 BRT operating, and 2 under construction.

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Currently we have 7 BRT lines, and 3 are under construction (will be operating in early 2008).

Our current commuter trains with high frequency is on economy class, which has no aircon, cheap fare, and known for it's poor service. The opposite is express class, less frequent, higher fare, with aircon, and much convenient than the eco class services. The future plan is to improve the economy class to be renamed as local train with aircon on it's every train.

I think just forget the monorail!
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Old August 27th, 2007, 06:35 AM   #153
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Currently we have 7 BRT lines, and 3 are under construction (will be operating in early 2008).

I think just forget the monorail!
heheheh see, that is one advantage of BRT...easy to build it now, and convert it in the future....

sure, LRT and mass transit is better in the long run, but at least with BRT you have "rapid transit" established on the main corridors....

yes, forget the monorail...the value is still unproven

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Old September 27th, 2007, 08:19 AM   #155
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Ups, coridor should be written corridor.
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i was thinkin what was transjakarta... i've read three pages and now i get it
i've never heard of this kind of transport on divided lanes... but, idea is soo smart... nice work jakarta...

i'm interested, how are crossings with other roads managed? are there some overpasses or something else?
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Old September 27th, 2007, 11:00 AM   #160
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7 corridors in operation in how many years?

I am totally impressed...why doesnt Malaysia learn from what has been done with transjakarta??????

The biggest thing that they have done...is taking away lanes from the roads...to really make a difference with public transportation....

only one concern though...in the long, long term...will transjakarta be a victim of its own success? Will demand grow to more than the network can handle? There will have to be a conversion from bus to LRT or subway at some point...

but in the meantime...Go Jakarta Go!

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