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Old September 27th, 2007, 12:15 PM   #161
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7 corridors in operation in how many years?
It starts from 2004.

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only one concern though...in the long, long term...will transjakarta be a victim of its own success? Will demand grow to more than the network can handle? There will have to be a conversion from bus to LRT or subway at some point...
Yes, there will. The demand will definitely increase and to anticipate it, we've planed to build subway, monorail and also waterway, which will be integrated with TransJakarta.
TransJakarta is just the beginning, because it can be built faster and also cheaper.
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Old September 27th, 2007, 12:19 PM   #162
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I don't know about its affordability, reliability and punctuality and speed but if they are all good this is really a good mode of transport for Jakarta.

With limited funds and delays on other projects, its really good this is the one project that will maximise the use of available funds now and yet is not really being delayed.

Great project Jakarta!
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Old September 27th, 2007, 09:48 PM   #163
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I don't know about its affordability, reliability and punctuality and speed but if they are all good this is really a good mode of transport for Jakarta.

With limited funds and delays on other projects, its really good this is the one project that will maximise the use of available funds now and yet is not really being delayed.

Great project Jakarta!
Transjakarta is an exclusive ground MRT bus based.

It's affordable, reliable, and punctual, yet it's so easy and fast to build.

Singapore should copy it, but surely with better designs and system.
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Old September 28th, 2007, 09:01 AM   #164
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Transjakarta is an exclusive ground MRT bus based.

It's affordable, reliable, and punctual, yet it's so easy and fast to build.

Singapore should copy it, but surely with better designs and system.
It would be a logical "next step" for Singapore as they already have bus lanes implemented on major roads.

Right now many Singapore bus routes are long distance and wind from point to point...rather than a limited stop, backbone-type system like what is found in a BRT.

There are a few bus routes though, which could become BRT (or LRT/Rapid Tram) in the near future.

But in the long term, m thinks Singapore will just be building MRT lines to connect to other MRT lines...and one reason why this will be successful is because Singapore can target development along MRT lines.

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Old October 17th, 2007, 01:49 PM   #165
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Old October 17th, 2007, 04:17 PM   #166
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I like those articulated buses.

Really hope KL or other Malaysian cities learn from Jakarta .
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Old November 7th, 2007, 08:00 AM   #167
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I like those articulated buses.

Really hope KL or other Malaysian cities learn from Jakarta .
m is heading to Jakarta tonight...and is going to do a lot of research over the next day...

Hopefully the next time m goes to Jakarta it will be for a guided tour of the Transjakarta system...and if some Malaysian politicians can get themselves in gear...well, who knows....

A system like Transjakarta isnt the answer to traffic problems in KL or elsewhere...but it is definitely a lesson to learn


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Old November 8th, 2007, 12:46 AM   #168
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A system like Transjakarta isnt the answer to traffic problems in KL or elsewhere
but it is one of the solutions for traffic problems in Jakarta.
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Old November 8th, 2007, 04:47 PM   #169
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I was wondering...since long sections of the busway between stations mostly incorporate single lanes in both directions and are not connected due to the central median, buses cannot overtake each other. What happens when
a) Express or limited-stop services want to overtake slower, all-stop services (if there are no limited-stop services, then I apologise for the mistake...)
b) A late bus tries to catch up with its timetable but finds that it cannot overtake buses in front
c) A bus unfortunately stalls between stations and buses behind are trapped

Secondly, why does Transjakarta choose to use high floor buses and build stations with platforms rather than use low-floor buses like those in London and Singapore? Both ways, handicapped passengers are not disadvantaged. For the latter, construction costs are reduced because there isn't a need for elevated platforms but rather, low platforms that line up flush with the bus...
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This bus system is taken from the Curitiba bus system which also uses high floor buses and stations with platforms,I guess Transjakarta copied it in every detail as possible.

IMO, the station platforms is good as it encourage more organization and provide comfort by sheltering passengers from our tropical weather and encourage people of higher income to take the bus. Before this, buses are considered for the poor, I red in the Jakarta Post(available in our library) that more middle income people who never taken the bus now take the bus to travel due to comfort and safety of the station platforms.

There are ramps that allow wheelchair access, perhaps the Jakartans themselves could tell us how easy it is for wheelchair bound people to access the station,and from what I see the ramps is quite easy for physically impaired people to navigate compared to stairs,anyway,the fact they considered the ramps and spaces for wheelchairs in the buses is truly commendable .
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Old November 10th, 2007, 01:38 AM   #171
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Old November 12th, 2007, 10:52 AM   #175
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unfortunately m was only able to spend 2 days in Jakarta. However, he did enjoy the train journey too (parahayangan) and from (argo gede) Bandung.

m was impressed with the Transjakarta system, but wishes he had more time to ride .... it is a system to be proud of ...

just curious ... what are the next steps for transjakarta? more articulated buses in the fleet? plans for conversion to LRT?

Also wondering....how much is the price of petrol/gasoline in Indonesia now?
It is currently MYR1.92/L in Malaysia, as fixed by the government.

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Wow this system looks very good and quite affordable. MetroManila should adapt it for use here.
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