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Old April 14th, 2017, 10:27 AM   #20221
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Landmark Pinnacle | Isle of Dogs E14

London forum thread: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=613565

Official website: http://www.landmarkpinnacle.co.uk/



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  • Address: 15 Westferry, London E14
  • London borough: Tower Hamlets
  • Station: Heron Quays | Canary Wharf

Project facts
  • Developer: Chalegrove Properties
  • Architect: Squire and Partners
  • Height: 233m
  • Floors: 75
  • Homes: 752



Progress this week at the Landmark Pinnacle site, photos by chest:



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Old April 14th, 2017, 10:33 AM   #20222
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Wardian London | Isle of Dogs E14

London forum thread: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=324062

Official website: http://www.wardianlondon.com/



Location
  • Address: Arrowhead Quay, Marsh Wall, London E14
  • London borough: Tower Hamlets
  • Station: South Quay | Heron Quays | Canary Wharf

Project facts
  • Developer: Ballymore
  • Architect: Glen Howells Architects
  • Height: 183m | 170m
  • Floors: 55 | 50
  • Homes: 792



Yesterday at the Wardian site, photos by chest:



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Old April 14th, 2017, 01:02 PM   #20223
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Isle of Dogs is such an unfashionable name. Reminiscent of an open air landfill or something. Why don't they rebrand the precinct?
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Old April 14th, 2017, 01:14 PM   #20224
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^ That area's more commonly known to Londoners as Canary Wharf, which has positive connotations, of pretty yellow birds, or the eponymous sunny Atlantic islands from which they hail. (And this is indeed the root of the name, as fruit imported from the Canaries was once unloaded here.) The Isle of Dogs refers to a wider area - everything within that loop in the Thames - and the rest of it's suitably unglamorous.
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Old April 14th, 2017, 03:07 PM   #20225
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Isle of Dogs is such an unfashionable name. Reminiscent of an open air landfill or something. Why don't they rebrand the precinct?
The name Isle of Dogs is brilliant. Memorable; intriguing; edgy. Infinitely preferable to the kind of bland, pretentious nonsense that any branding agency might seek to impose on the area.

Leave as is!
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Old April 14th, 2017, 06:44 PM   #20226
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It seems like there's nothing in CW not coming to life at the moment.
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Old April 14th, 2017, 10:06 PM   #20227
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Isle of Dogs is such an unfashionable name. Reminiscent of an open air landfill or something. Why don't they rebrand the precinct?
I once read that Henry VIII had had his hunting dogs kennelled there, hence the name. Also interesting to note that the Latin name for the Canary Islands (from which Canary Wharf is taken) is 'island of the dogs'.
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Old April 15th, 2017, 12:35 AM   #20228
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GATEway Project | Greenwich Peninsula SE10

London forum thread: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=632984

Official website: https://www.gateway-project.org.uk/



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  • Address: Peninsula Square, London SE10
  • London borough: Greenwich
  • Station: North Greenwich

Project facts
  • Developer: Innovate UK | Department for Transport
  • Project lead: Transport Research Laboratory
  • Vehicle design: Westfield Sportscars | Heathrow | Oxbotica
  • Research: University of Greenwich | Imperial College London | O2 | Shell | RSA

Public trials for the Greenwich Automated Transport Environment (GATEway Project) have commenced:

- The Telegraph: First driverless shuttle tests begin in London

- BBC News: Driverless shuttle bus to be tested by public in London

- The Wharf: Autonomous vehicle arrives as GATEway Project starts North Greenwich tests












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Old April 15th, 2017, 01:49 AM   #20229
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Old April 15th, 2017, 02:02 AM   #20230
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Great little vid. Suddenly the scale of the building emerges.
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Old April 15th, 2017, 08:28 AM   #20231
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GATEway Project | Greenwich Peninsula SE10

London forum thread: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=632984

Official website: https://www.gateway-project.org.uk/
Were they worried about making it look too good?
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Old April 15th, 2017, 11:26 AM   #20232
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Upper Riverside | Greenwich Peninsula SE10

London forum thread: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=632984

Official website: http://www.greenwichpeninsula.co.uk/...per-riverside/



Location
  • Address: Plot N0205, Greenwich Peninsula, London SE10
  • London borough: Greenwich
  • Station: North Greenwich

Project facts
  • Developer: Knight Dragon
  • Architect: Skidmore, Owings and Merrill
  • Height: 104m | 98m | 86m | 79m | 73m
  • Floors: 31 | 29 | 26 | 23 | 22
  • Homes: 1,007
  • Retail space: 2,100m²



The northernmost section of Upper Riverside viewed from the Emirates Air Line, photos by Paul Williams:



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Old April 15th, 2017, 01:44 PM   #20233
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London is doing good job with density growth
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Old April 15th, 2017, 01:47 PM   #20234
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Icons

Reading that little NYC/London spat, and without wishing to kick off another city v city debate, what I think London has, over any city in the world, is iconic buildings, instantly recognisable, even in silhouette, to many around the world. Buildings that define the brand of the city.

e.g. In Paris, instantly recognisable icons are

Eiffel Tower
Louvre Pyramid
Notre Dame?
Defense Arch, maybe

Then you start to run out

NYC has

Empire State
Chrysler
New World Trade (however bland and disliked)
Guggenheim at a pinch?
Statue of Liberty for sure (if it counts as a building)


London has

Houses of Parliament
St Paul's
London Eye (if it counts as a building)
Tower of London
Tower Bridge
The Shard
The Gherkin
Tate Modern at a pinch
Perhaps even the Walkie Talkie (however ugly and disliked)
The Dome


It's quite impressive. It's a function of London being ancient, like Paris, contemporary, like NYC, and eccentrically itself, welcoming quirky buildings.

Some might say it makes for a disharmonious urban streetscape, but it sure makes London skyline tea-towels the best of all skyline tea-towels. Happy Easter.
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Old April 15th, 2017, 04:11 PM   #20235
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e.g. In Paris, instantly recognisable icons are

Eiffel Tower
Louvre Pyramid
Notre Dame?
Defense Arch, maybe

Then you start to run out
Other icons in Paris are...

-Sacré-Cœur de Montmartre
-Centre Pompidou
-Panthéon
-Fondation Louis Vuitton

for example
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Old April 15th, 2017, 05:32 PM   #20236
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NYC has

Empire State
Chrysler
New World Trade (however bland and disliked)
Guggenheim at a pinch?
Statue of Liberty for sure (if it counts as a building)
This is a quite incomplete list for NYC as well... it should also include:

Woolworth Building
Flatiron Building
Rockefeller Center
Brooklyn Bridge if you include the Tower Bridge for London (there are also some other pretty recognizable bridges like the Manhattan, Williamsburg and Queensborough Bridges)
Grand Central
Plaza Hotel

And some soon-to-be modern marvels like 111 West 57th Street and Torre Verre.
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Old April 15th, 2017, 05:46 PM   #20237
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As forum member Gyurma13 picked out, the second image from the left is the silhouette of Hungarian parliament building in Budapest. All the others are London landmarks. I wonder if this was intentional...
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Old April 15th, 2017, 07:06 PM   #20238
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Other icons in Paris are...

-Sacré-Cœur de Montmartre
-Centre Pompidou
-Panthéon
-Fondation Louis Vuitton

for example
You forget the Arc de Triomphe - the best known icon after the Eiffel. Also Les Invalides (dome) far superior to Centre Pompidou and Fondation what? Most 'Fred's/Mary's' down the road won't know anything about new buildings (going up in NYC for example) and most probably not the Defense arch. They will have heard of the Centre Pompidou but wouldn't know what it looks like or, indeed, what it is! Icons have to be world famous to everyone and anyone - such as the Taj Mahal, Empire State, the Egyptian pyramids, Golden Gate Bridge and Eiffel Tower.


Don't get carried away with modern structures (and some not even built!!)

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Old April 15th, 2017, 07:51 PM   #20239
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This is a quite incomplete list for NYC as well... it should also include:

Woolworth Building
Flatiron Building
Rockefeller Center
Brooklyn Bridge if you include the Tower Bridge for London (there are also some other pretty recognizable bridges like the Manhattan, Williamsburg and Queensborough Bridges)
Grand Central
Plaza Hotel

And some soon-to-be modern marvels like 111 West 57th Street and Torre Verre.
With respect I think hardly anyone outside America (or maybe outside NYC?!) would recognise any of those, in silhouette, which is probably the test. The idea the Brooklyn Bridge is as recognisable as Tower Bridge is a bit bonkers

I agree 111 W 57th might well become iconic: a beautiful design.
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Old April 15th, 2017, 07:55 PM   #20240
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You forget the Arc de Triomphe - the best known icon after the Eiffel. Also Les Invalides (dome) far superior to Centre Pompidou and Fondation what? Most 'Fred's/Mary's' down the road won't know anything about new buildings (going up in NYC for example) and most probably not the Defense arch. They will have heard of the Centre Pompidou but wouldn't know what it looks like or, indeed, what it is! Icons have to be world famous to everyone and anyone - such as the Taj Mahal, Empire State, the Egyptian pyramids, Golden Gate Bridge and Eiffel Tower.


Don't get carried away with modern structures (and some not even built!!)
Yes, absolutely, should have included the Arc. Maybe not La Defense.

As you say this test favours older buildings over newer: older buildings have had time to insert themselves into worldwide perceptions of cities.

That said, occasionally a structure will go up which becomes instantly iconic - the Eiffel Tower is a good example, as is the London Eye.

And now I will withdraw from comparisons as I don't want to derail this marvellous thread, and I don't want to kick off any city v city argy-bargy.
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