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Old April 18th, 2017, 01:15 PM   #20261
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It's interesting how modern buildings really struggle to attain international iconic status. The Shard may be the first building in London to have achieved it. And even then it seems to be it's height that attracts the most attention.
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Old April 18th, 2017, 01:23 PM   #20262
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If extended to modern structures, I'd argue that the London Eye and the O2 have also attained that status.
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Old April 18th, 2017, 01:25 PM   #20263
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York Place | Battersea SW11

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Old April 18th, 2017, 01:34 PM   #20264
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This.

New York has Yellow cabs... London has Black Taxis and Red buses...

Other cities have.... .. ..... anyone?
You will find black cabs across the UK, and the same for yellow taxis across the world, its just these are synonymous with those cities due to the quantity of them and the training the drivers need to go through to have them in those cities. There was a recent documentary on the tests that black cab drivers have to go through, and i am pretty sure yellow cabs are similar (?).
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Old April 18th, 2017, 01:53 PM   #20265
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If extended to modern structures, I'd argue that the London Eye and the O2 have also attained that status.
I'd also add the Gherkin to that list. Still comfortably London's best high rise building - albeit that it is increasingly likely to be hidden by the comparative mediocrity being built around it.
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Old April 18th, 2017, 03:01 PM   #20266
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I'd also add the Gherkin to that list. Still comfortably London's best high rise building - albeit that it is increasingly likely to be hidden by the comparative mediocrity being built around it.
This is why London needs to create protected views of the Gherkin and Cheesegrater. You might as well add the Shard, where no tall building greater than half of the Shard's height be built in close proximity.
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Old April 18th, 2017, 03:39 PM   #20267
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True guys, I love Gherkin so really gutted to see it disappearing.
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Old April 18th, 2017, 04:45 PM   #20268
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If extended to modern structures, I'd argue that the London Eye and the O2 have also attained that status.
As others have said, the Gherkin is also pretty iconic.
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Old April 18th, 2017, 05:02 PM   #20269
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I didn't make it clear enough in my post, I was referring to structures (the Eye and the Dome) that aren't buildings.
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Old April 18th, 2017, 05:18 PM   #20270
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This is why London needs to create protected views of the Gherkin and Cheesegrater. You might as well add the Shard, where no tall building greater than half of the Shard's height be built in close proximity.
If you do this though London will have an even greater problem with sightlines than they already do, which has made the City's skyline so incohesive.
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Old April 18th, 2017, 05:19 PM   #20271
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Old April 18th, 2017, 08:54 PM   #20272
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I'd also add the Gherkin to that list. Still comfortably London's best high rise building - albeit that it is increasingly likely to be hidden by the comparative mediocrity being built around it.
I was really surprised that when I took visitors around London (two Filipino-Americans), the Gherkin was instantly recognisable to them, and something of a landmark.

Perhaps it is from movies.
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Old April 19th, 2017, 01:53 AM   #20273
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Perhaps it is from movies.
I couldn't say.

Anecdotally, I would never have included St. Paul's in a list of important structures in London, had you asked me up until relatively recently. On the other hand, the Gherkin would have always been near the top of the list (and I could have also recognized it as 30th St Mary Axe).

In any case, I do think it's a 'Landmark': If I'm reading the Economist or finance in London comes up, generally, I immediately see the Gherkin in my head.

It's also what I 'see,' so to speak, when I hear Brexit.

\_(ツ)_/ People often make odd associations, I suppose.
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Old April 19th, 2017, 09:53 AM   #20274
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The reason is probably more mundane.

London hosts broadcasting centres for several international news channels, which each tend to feature the Gherkin in their studio backdrop. Over time there's a chance you'll see it, and have it subconsciously register.

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Old April 19th, 2017, 10:53 AM   #20275
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I couldn't say.

Anecdotally, I would never have included St. Paul's in a list of important structures in London, had you asked me up until relatively recently. On the other hand, the Gherkin would have always been near the top of the list (and I could have also recognized it as 30th St Mary Axe).

In any case, I do think it's a 'Landmark': If I'm reading the Economist or finance in London comes up, generally, I immediately see the Gherkin in my head.

It's also what I 'see,' so to speak, when I hear Brexit.

\_(ツ)_/ People often make odd associations, I suppose.
That amazes me!

Prior to the building of the Houses of Parliament and Tower Bridge, St Paul's was THE London icon. And during the Blitz in WW2, St Paul's was the symbol of London's - and consequently the world's - resistance to Nazi expansionism:

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Old April 19th, 2017, 11:01 AM   #20276
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I was really surprised that when I took visitors around London (two Filipino-Americans), the Gherkin was instantly recognisable to them, and something of a landmark.

Perhaps it is from movies.




I had a similar experience with a friend visiting from California. She instantly knew The Gherkin and The Shard. She knew it from TV Shows and Films like Sherlock, Dr.Who, and other films shot in London.
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Old April 19th, 2017, 11:45 AM   #20277
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Landmarks and their recognisability are very relative. It all depends on the people you'd ask. For a lot of the members on this forum the Kenyatta International Convention Centre (had to look up the name) is a building that we immediately associate with Nairobi and to us a landmark, yet when you ask outside this very niche group of members I don't think many people would even know the right continent. Almost everyone has a niche they know a lot about, I think we are way too familiar with cities, infrastructure and their buildings to have a good grasp of what constitutes as a landmark to "everyone". We can make educated guesses (and continue doing so), but we'll continue failing. (Example: we've named many of Paris's buildings, yet noone mentioned Pre-Lachaise, just as much a "landmark" to many people)
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When the US bought the 19th Century London Bridge in the early 1970s (see below) which now resides in Havasu City, Arizona, they thought they were getting Tower Bridge.
A very popular urban myth (which probably helped its fame and helps us remember it), but they knew perfectly well what they were buying.
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Old April 19th, 2017, 12:07 PM   #20278
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That amazes me!

Prior to the building of the Houses of Parliament and Tower Bridge, St Paul's was THE London icon. And during the Blitz in WW2, St Paul's was the symbol of London's - and consequently the world's - resistance to Nazi expansionism:

Little known outside UK and especially Europe, trust me

Dealing with literally hundreds of Chinese tourists myself over the years their knowledge of London in terms of popularity:

Tower Bridge (many call it London Bridge as mentioned by many above)
Big Ben
House of Parliament
British Museum
Greenwich Observatory
London Eye

These are what they know and want to see, does it.

Same would apply to people from Eastern Europe with probably a little bit more detailed knowledge which might include Buckingham Palace and Hyde Park.
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Old April 19th, 2017, 12:38 PM   #20279
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St. Paul's just looks too similar to other buildings, like St. Peter's Rome, the Capitol in Washington and El Capatolio in Havana to name but three. Show people pictures without context and they don't come up with St. Paul's. I saw a TVs programme once when they did just that and many people couldn't identify it!
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Old April 19th, 2017, 01:05 PM   #20280
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St Paul's has the scale - but as far as churches go Hawksmoor's Christ Church Spitalfields beats Wren's edifice hands down.
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