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DarJoLe · June 22nd, 2006, 11:17 AM

It will be home to the London Olympic Institute, which will be the powerhouse for public sport and sport training in the UK, as well as a centre of training for future Olympic atheletes.

Newcastle Guy · June 22nd, 2006, 11:25 AM

Londons got so much going on it's pretty amazing. All this and the tahes gateway regeneration will bring London right into the 21st century as one of the most modern cities in the world, it may as well be brand new!

Newcastle Guy · June 22nd, 2006, 11:27 AM

I found some pics of the proposals for the Thames gateway bridge. Has it been decided which one will go ahead?

***SE9*** · June 22nd, 2006, 12:27 PM

I think its the 1st one.

***SE9*** · June 22nd, 2006, 12:31 PM

Here you go:

Newcastle Guy · June 22nd, 2006, 12:34 PM

Cool, but to be honest I prefer 2nd and 3rd ones more

***SE9*** · June 22nd, 2006, 12:44 PM

Yep I agree, they have interesting curves, although 1 and 4 have more space for ships to manouvre through.

Here's the revised design of the bridge (as posted above), submitted in May 2006:

I'll post the 3D renders later.

Newcastle Guy · June 22nd, 2006, 12:48 PM

Thanks for those SE9

***SE9*** · June 22nd, 2006, 12:54 PM

That's ok

Here's the 3Ds:

Newcastle Guy · June 22nd, 2006, 12:56 PM

I suppose it aint too bad at all. It looks pretty big too

london lad · June 22nd, 2006, 01:28 PM

Looks very poor considering its only the third bridge built over the thames in over a century ( after the milenium bridge & QEII bridge).

Looks like a very bog standard design that you see on a lot of over passes on motorways. The worst of the 4 designs by a long way.

***Tubeman*** · June 22nd, 2006, 01:39 PM

Yawn. The 2nd and 3rd proposals were far superior.

You'd have thought that it would get a design that befits the 'Thames Gateway' title; something a little iconic or unusual. The name summons up thoughts of it being the gateway to London, and all we get is something akin to a bogstandard motorway flyover on the A13. Boooo!

Newcastle Guy · June 22nd, 2006, 02:10 PM

I suppose this had the potential to become London's Golden Gate bridge. It is a bit of a wasted opportunity.

L-er · June 22nd, 2006, 02:16 PM

Disappointing

DarJoLe · June 22nd, 2006, 02:17 PM

You have to consider the low flight path of the airport, and the high berth needed for container ships to go underneath.

Plus the fact as is the usual case in Britain the cheapest option is the most viable.

But yes, it is hideous. The whole project should be a tunnel anyway, I think the bridge is going to cause some real environmental damage to the area over the long term.

Zenith · June 22nd, 2006, 02:25 PM

The French with their fosters bridge must be laughing at us (yes i know its much bigger but that isnt the point).

Whilst were on the subject of bridges Ive decided I can tolerate waterloo bridge but why cant they have beautifully designed railings ? The view from further up the embankment etc would be superior.

Actually I wish they could rebuild the old bridge but obviously stronger and wider.

Newcastle Guy · June 22nd, 2006, 02:39 PM

If someone wanted to create a huge public square between st Pauls and the river how much would it cost? I know there are like 20 groundscrapers that would need demolishing.

If I was designing it I would do it around the cathedral and a large feature/peace of art in the middle, like a giant 150m glass spire, like the one off the Freedom tower, surrounded by water, and lots of seats, some trees, lots of water etc...

Also make some use of the millenium bridge, on othe ends. use it to create a nicw walk way up to the central feature and then st pauls

DarJoLe · June 22nd, 2006, 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by newcastle kid

If someone wanted to create a huge public square between st Pauls and the river how much would it cost? I know there are like 20 groundscrapers that would need demolishing.

And several churches. And roads that need diverting. And you'd have to pay the companies involved compensation. And re-route utilities.

Couple of billion I reckon.

It's never going to happen I'm afraid.

***wjfox*** · June 22nd, 2006, 03:39 PM

A few billion here and there isn't really much in a place like London though. I wouldn't rule it out completely. You never know, there could be a big masterplan drawn up that calls for a total redevelopment of that area - something on the scale of Greenwich Peninsula, Elephant & Castle or one of the other major regeneration projects. Doubt it will happen for a long time though.

Btw, you wouldn't have to demolish any churches...

Newcastle Guy · June 22nd, 2006, 03:51 PM

Yeah I checked that, there are no buildings that would be demolished that anyone would throw themselves infront of a bulldozer for

June 22nd, 2006, 12:27 PM	#264
*SE9* South East Nine Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: South London Posts: 17,005 Likes (Received): 917	I think its the 1st one. __________________ SE9's photos on flickr

June 22nd, 2006, 12:31 PM	#265
*SE9* South East Nine Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: South London Posts: 17,005 Likes (Received): 917	Here you go: __________________ SE9's photos on flickr

June 22nd, 2006, 12:44 PM	#267
*SE9* South East Nine Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: South London Posts: 17,005 Likes (Received): 917	Yep I agree, they have interesting curves, although 1 and 4 have more space for ships to manouvre through. Here's the revised design of the bridge (as posted above), submitted in May 2006: I'll post the 3D renders later. __________________ SE9's photos on flickr

June 22nd, 2006, 12:54 PM	#269
*SE9* South East Nine Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: South London Posts: 17,005 Likes (Received): 917	That's ok Here's the 3Ds: __________________ SE9's photos on flickr

June 22nd, 2006, 12:56 PM	#270
Newcastle Guy Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Portsmouth Posts: 8,957 Likes (Received): 18	I suppose it aint too bad at all. It looks pretty big too Last edited by newcastle kid; June 22nd, 2006 at 02:10 PM.

June 22nd, 2006, 11:17 AM	#261
DarJoLe Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: London Posts: 15,671 Likes (Received): 397	It will be home to the London Olympic Institute, which will be the powerhouse for public sport and sport training in the UK, as well as a centre of training for future Olympic atheletes.

June 22nd, 2006, 11:25 AM	#262
Newcastle Guy Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Portsmouth Posts: 8,957 Likes (Received): 18	Londons got so much going on it's pretty amazing. All this and the tahes gateway regeneration will bring London right into the 21st century as one of the most modern cities in the world, it may as well be brand new!

June 22nd, 2006, 11:27 AM	#263
Newcastle Guy Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Portsmouth Posts: 8,957 Likes (Received): 18	I found some pics of the proposals for the Thames gateway bridge. Has it been decided which one will go ahead?

June 22nd, 2006, 12:34 PM	#266
Newcastle Guy Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Portsmouth Posts: 8,957 Likes (Received): 18	Cool, but to be honest I prefer 2nd and 3rd ones more

June 22nd, 2006, 12:48 PM	#268
Newcastle Guy Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Portsmouth Posts: 8,957 Likes (Received): 18	Thanks for those SE9

June 22nd, 2006, 01:28 PM	#271
london lad Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: London Posts: 8,155 Likes (Received): 45	Looks very poor considering its only the third bridge built over the thames in over a century ( after the milenium bridge & QEII bridge). Looks like a very bog standard design that you see on a lot of over passes on motorways. The worst of the 4 designs by a long way.

June 22nd, 2006, 01:39 PM	#272
*Tubeman* Jubilation Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: London SE15 Posts: 18,127 Likes (Received): 338	Yawn. The 2nd and 3rd proposals were far superior. You'd have thought that it would get a design that befits the 'Thames Gateway' title; something a little iconic or unusual. The name summons up thoughts of it being the gateway to London, and all we get is something akin to a bogstandard motorway flyover on the A13. Boooo!

June 22nd, 2006, 02:10 PM	#273
Newcastle Guy Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Portsmouth Posts: 8,957 Likes (Received): 18	I suppose this had the potential to become London's Golden Gate bridge. It is a bit of a wasted opportunity. Last edited by newcastle kid; June 25th, 2006 at 11:59 AM.

June 22nd, 2006, 02:16 PM	#274
L-er ... Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Ieper(Ypres) Posts: 1,309 Likes (Received): 0	Disappointing

June 22nd, 2006, 02:17 PM	#275
DarJoLe Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: London Posts: 15,671 Likes (Received): 397	You have to consider the low flight path of the airport, and the high berth needed for container ships to go underneath. Plus the fact as is the usual case in Britain the cheapest option is the most viable. But yes, it is hideous. The whole project should be a tunnel anyway, I think the bridge is going to cause some real environmental damage to the area over the long term.

June 22nd, 2006, 02:25 PM	#276
Zenith The hawk envies me Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Taunton Posts: 6,303 Likes (Received): 178	The French with their fosters bridge must be laughing at us (yes i know its much bigger but that isnt the point). Whilst were on the subject of bridges Ive decided I can tolerate waterloo bridge but why cant they have beautifully designed railings ? The view from further up the embankment etc would be superior. Actually I wish they could rebuild the old bridge but obviously stronger and wider.

June 22nd, 2006, 02:39 PM	#277
Newcastle Guy Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Portsmouth Posts: 8,957 Likes (Received): 18	If someone wanted to create a huge public square between st Pauls and the river how much would it cost? I know there are like 20 groundscrapers that would need demolishing. If I was designing it I would do it around the cathedral and a large feature/peace of art in the middle, like a giant 150m glass spire, like the one off the Freedom tower, surrounded by water, and lots of seats, some trees, lots of water etc... Also make some use of the millenium bridge, on othe ends. use it to create a nicw walk way up to the central feature and then st pauls

June 22nd, 2006, 03:39 PM	#279
*wjfox* Moderator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: L O N D O N Posts: 36,203 Likes (Received): 934	A few billion here and there isn't really much in a place like London though. I wouldn't rule it out completely. You never know, there could be a big masterplan drawn up that calls for a total redevelopment of that area - something on the scale of Greenwich Peninsula, Elephant & Castle or one of the other major regeneration projects. Doubt it will happen for a long time though. Btw, you wouldn't have to demolish any churches...

June 22nd, 2006, 03:51 PM	#280
Newcastle Guy Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Portsmouth Posts: 8,957 Likes (Received): 18	Yeah I checked that, there are no buildings that would be demolished that anyone would throw themselves infront of a bulldozer for

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