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Old December 6th, 2006, 01:11 PM   #521
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and we al know its not going to happen
Oh. Why do you say that?
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Old December 6th, 2006, 01:12 PM   #522
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Shard: Funding AND tenants alreasy lined up, plans are underway to prepare for demolition in the middle of next year and construction straight after. This is definately going ahead

Leadenhall: Simultaneous demolition and construction starts next month

Bishopsgate tower: Demolition already underway, a proper thread will be started when it is 100% confirmed that the recent news is true, that arabs are funding it

Heron: Being built speculatively, does not need a tenant. Funding was needed for it to start, but that has now been given. Again just waiting for 100% confirmation from the arabs.

A month or two ago I would agree with you, I thought only the Shard and Leadenhall would actually be built, but after the news of the last few weeks, I think it's a fair bet that we will infact get ALL of the big city towers.

Works on all 4 should start next year
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Old December 6th, 2006, 02:21 PM   #523
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Oh I will, don't worry about that
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Old December 6th, 2006, 08:30 PM   #524
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Ooh I like the way you tell em Mr Newcastle
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Old December 6th, 2006, 10:14 PM   #525
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Oh I will, don't worry about that
well if the thought that they are going to build makes you happy,
I'm willing to believe in it just to make you happy isn't that nice .
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Old December 6th, 2006, 10:27 PM   #526
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How kind of you!
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Old December 7th, 2006, 01:15 AM   #527
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well if the thought that they are going to build makes you happy,
I'm willing to believe in it just to make you happy isn't that nice .
Lol, I think you're missing the point mate. These fantastic building all stand a great chance of being built now. Most people weren't confident at all that all of them would be, but over the last 2 weeks we've had some fantastic news, as NG pointed out. I think your sarcastic comments would've been fair enough a few weeks ago, but now you're pretty much wrong to be so sceptical.
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Old December 8th, 2006, 12:11 PM   #529
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From building.co.uk

Marks Barfield begins work on Olympic spike…

London Eye architect plans landmark viewing tower for 2012 Games


8 December, 2006

By Vikki Miller

The London Olympic Games visitor centre could take the shape of a futuristic observation tower under plans drawn up by Marks Barfield, the architect that designed the London Eye.

The firm won a commission to draw up the initial designs and is understood to favour an aerodynamic viewing pod that moves up and down a central spire.

This will be based on the architect’s i360 tower in Brighton, which received planning permission in October. At 183m, the i360 will be the tallest observation tower in Britain. The pod will fit 100 people in it at a time.

The architect said it wanted to create the 2012 visitor centre early in the construction of the Olympics so people could watch the site develop.

David Marks, the co-founder of the firm, said: “As well as giving visitors the chance to experience amazing aerial views of the Olympic developments beneath them, the facility could attract interest in its own right, being potentially the first landmark building in the Olympic park.”

He continued: “After the Games it would sit comfortably alongside the cutting-edge buildings that will comprise the Olympic park, and become a long-term attraction, allowing visitors to celebrate the heritage of 2012 and the new environment around them.”

An Olympic Delivery Authority (ODA) spokesperson said: “We have commissioned a feasibility study into options for developing a visitor centre. We expect it to be complete by next spring.”



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Old December 8th, 2006, 07:05 PM   #530
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Great news!
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Old December 8th, 2006, 08:39 PM   #531
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It truly is. It will make the 2012 Olympic park even better!

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Old December 8th, 2006, 09:28 PM   #532
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Not really skyscraper related, but very important to London none the less.

Third Heathrow runway set for approval

A third runway at Heathrow, which could give British aviation a vital boost as European competition intensifies, looks set to be given the go-ahead by the government.

The project would allow 500 more flights per day from the west London airport and would be accompanied by a road toll scheme to cut pollution.

Up to 700 homes – including Grade II listed buildings – would have to be demolished to make way for the new runway and accompanying terminal. However, ministers believe that the potential economic benefits greatly outweigh any environmental concerns, and are prepared to endorse the project, The Times reports.

The newspaper obtained an internal document from BAA, in which the airport operator also spelled out a plan to charge polluting lorries for using nearby roads. Air quality near the airport is a major barrier to expansion and road tolls or penalty charges would deter lorries – which emit far more nitrogen oxide than cars – from driving close to Heathrow.

Expansion at Heathrow is seen as vital by many. Oxford Economic Forecasting has estimated that costs incurred by congestion at UK airports could reach more than £5 billion per year by 2015, and £20 billion by 2030. Adding a third runway at Heathrow would bring benefits worth £7 billion to the economy over the next 25 years, it argues.

Willie Walsh, chief executive of British Airways, said that neglecting to build a new landing strip would be "a defeat", adding that Heathrow is losing ground to other major European hubs – including Paris, Amsterdam and Frankfurt.

Amsterdam's Schiphol Airport has six runways (although one of these is used primarily by light aircraft) and Frankfurt International serves more non-stop destinations than Heathrow.

Gordon Brown also made mention of Heathrow in his pre-Budget report this week, saying that it plays "a unique role" in the UK.

He added: "Demand for capacity [at Heathrow] already significantly exceeds supply, leading to less competition, greater congestion, reduced choice and higher prices for passengers."

The chancellor claimed that "further expansion of UK airport capacity is needed", although he somewhat paradoxically introduced higher passenger tax – with the apparent aim of reducing passenger miles – in the same speech.

In the meantime, construction continues on Terminal 5, which will allow for Heathrow's capacity to grow from 68 million to 90 million passengers per year. Provided the builders do not continue to sleep on the job (as reported in Construction News) it should be open in early 2008.

With the third runway + T6 and T5 too capacity should rise from 68 million to about 115 million, and eventually to about 155 million.
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Old December 8th, 2006, 09:58 PM   #533
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Of course the Chancellor is in favour of extensions! He's going to tax air traffic to cover for his miscalculations on tax revenues and pension costs.

Well, so much for fighting global warming. Gordon Brown puts us down!
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Old December 9th, 2006, 12:11 AM   #534
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Not really skyscraper related, but very important to London none the less.

Third Heathrow runway set for approval

A third runway at Heathrow, which could give British aviation a vital boost as European competition intensifies, looks set to be given the go-ahead by the government.

The project would allow 500 more flights per day from the west London airport and would be accompanied by a road toll scheme to cut pollution.

Up to 700 homes – including Grade II listed buildings – would have to be demolished to make way for the new runway and accompanying terminal. However, ministers believe that the potential economic benefits greatly outweigh any environmental concerns, and are prepared to endorse the project, The Times reports.

The newspaper obtained an internal document from BAA, in which the airport operator also spelled out a plan to charge polluting lorries for using nearby roads. Air quality near the airport is a major barrier to expansion and road tolls or penalty charges would deter lorries – which emit far more nitrogen oxide than cars – from driving close to Heathrow.

Expansion at Heathrow is seen as vital by many. Oxford Economic Forecasting has estimated that costs incurred by congestion at UK airports could reach more than £5 billion per year by 2015, and £20 billion by 2030. Adding a third runway at Heathrow would bring benefits worth £7 billion to the economy over the next 25 years, it argues.

Willie Walsh, chief executive of British Airways, said that neglecting to build a new landing strip would be "a defeat", adding that Heathrow is losing ground to other major European hubs – including Paris, Amsterdam and Frankfurt.

Amsterdam's Schiphol Airport has six runways (although one of these is used primarily by light aircraft) and Frankfurt International serves more non-stop destinations than Heathrow.

Gordon Brown also made mention of Heathrow in his pre-Budget report this week, saying that it plays "a unique role" in the UK.

He added: "Demand for capacity [at Heathrow] already significantly exceeds supply, leading to less competition, greater congestion, reduced choice and higher prices for passengers."

The chancellor claimed that "further expansion of UK airport capacity is needed", although he somewhat paradoxically introduced higher passenger tax – with the apparent aim of reducing passenger miles – in the same speech.

In the meantime, construction continues on Terminal 5, which will allow for Heathrow's capacity to grow from 68 million to 90 million passengers per year. Provided the builders do not continue to sleep on the job (as reported in Construction News) it should be open in early 2008.

With the third runway + T6 and T5 too capacity should rise from 68 million to about 115 million, and eventually to about 155 million.

One should expect a bumby ride for this one...
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Old December 9th, 2006, 12:13 AM   #535
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Why? They've speeded up the planning process after T5 I thought?
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Old December 9th, 2006, 12:26 AM   #536
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Indeed. Planning for the new Heathrow Terminal East can take no longer than a year, including any public inquiries forced upon it. T5 took 4 years for planning alone!

And if my understanding is correct, in the past few days plans have been set out to radically overhaul planning the UK, making it easier. And also, I heard something about a sector for 'big' projects, i.e airports, stadia, skyscrapers etc... This could really impact the UK, for better or worse. Hopefully for the better.

Also, news on the 230m tower that has previously been seem as little more than a dream(Thanks to London Lad):

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There was an article on regeneration & density in propertyweek & they mentioned this scheme- Rowan AM appear to be very serious & it also mentions TH will be releasing a strategic plan for Isle of Dogs. If Glengall can manage to change TH current strategy (hopefully by getting hte mayor involved) it could radically change plans for the IoD.

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Across the Thames on the Isle of Dogs, where land is more constrained, Rowan Asset Management is working with architect Sheppard Robson on a high-rise solution to housing demand. Their early proposals for the scheme, known as Glengall Bridge, involve a residential tower of at least 30 storeys, possibly 80. The tower would include some affordable units but most social-rented flats would be in a separate block.

‘We’re creating a very dense development as a way to answering the social requirements of the area,’ says Nick Jacobs, Rowan’s managing director. ‘Where we try and avoid conflict is by going vertically with the development and creating more open space at ground level. It invites people in to rest, socialise, shop, and I think the only way we can do that is by taking it further upwards. The constraint that is flexible, if we can get it through planning, is the height.’

Reaction to tower projects is invariably mixed but Jacobs argues that this one matches government criteria for sustainability and should feature in principle in Tower Hamlets’ forthcoming strategic plan for the Isle of Dogs.

A planning application is a year away, but Rowan has already consulted widely not just planners but also local residents – a largely overlooked constituency in the DCLG’s proposed network of ‘design champions’.

‘Sometimes we’ve been well received, sometimes we haven’t,’ says Jacobs. ‘But generally people are interested in the fact that we’re actually talking to them.’


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This could radically change the skyline near CW and help it come away from the corporate, American feel of places like CW and La Defense
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Old December 9th, 2006, 12:30 AM   #537
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Why? They've speeded up the planning process after T5 I thought?
Because anti-heathrow runamay3 lobbies are rapidly forming and that the mayor is against it. A congestion charge a la Central London at Heathrow could change his mind though.
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Old December 9th, 2006, 12:32 AM   #538
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He did say that. I think he would be all for it if they do manage to set out a plan to lower some of the pollution.
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Old December 9th, 2006, 01:03 AM   #539
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yes, all the councils are forming 1 group to fight this. There will be substantial protests, direct action (people have been training for this), etc...There will be a big fight involving courts, etc.

How would lowering pollution at LHR alter the fact that airlines fllying over central london will pollute the air in that location, where most people are living??
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Well that doesn't matter to the EU regulations. They only stipulate maximum levels of noise and pollution and these would be around Heathrow airport, not in the approach.
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