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Old January 31st, 2007, 04:33 AM   #661
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Xander, are you the next Sherlock Holmes, it seems you have passed your exams.
Great response. Either way I was right, and you do have an irrational hatred of London, thus rendering your comments devoid of substance and utterly moribund.

I feel daunted by the stunning skyline of Padstow or whatever.


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Mrtocsin - I've often wondered: do you get fewer presents on your birthday if your dad is also your uncle?
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Land Securities are reported to be planning twin 50-storey office towers in Victoria, Central London. This is literally a stone's throw from Buckingham Palace and the Victoria Memorial.

No renderings yet, but I've drawn this to show the approximate height and location. How on earth do they expect to get planning permission?!

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I get so angry at our planning system. There is no consistency to it at all. How the hell can they even think about getting away with towers looming over Buck house, but in established areas of hi-rise buildings like say the EH, UNESCO and the like complain, but even then the Daleks, More London, and the dross out at Canary Wharf are fine.

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That's a ridiculous location for a skyscraper.It seems London is out of control with the skyscaper demand.
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They'll never get approved, not in a million years. I don't even know why they're wasting their time.
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I can already imagine Simon Jenkins column in the Evening Standard!!!
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What the hell? You gotta be kidding right, next to Buckingham Palace, know for a fact they've no chance in hell of building it there. why waste thier own effort, have they absolutely no sense with such an important landmark so near, what next, some large PLC company proposing a 50 storey monster right in the middle of parliament square next to westminster abbey and the houses of parliament. God only know how that ugly grey building sticking out like a sore thumb got past planning permission.
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Oracle Homes are planning a 40-storey residential tower, just to the south of Riverside South. No renderings yet, but I've marked the approximate height and location in blue -

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^isn't that pretty much right next to 22 Marsh Wall?


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Btw, here's an updated list of all known midrise projects (less than 150m).

This is getting ridiculously long!

  • Bishopsgate goods yard. Ballymore are planning a major redevelopment of this prominent site, at the northern edge of the City.
    Early indications are that it will it will include a tower of at least 150m. This could form a cluster with the Broadgate Tower
    and the Northgate Tower.

  • Broadgate Centre redevelopment. British Land have plans for a massive redevelopment in this prime location next to
    Liverpool Street station, potentially adding over 1.2 million square feet of floorspace. The leases on some of the buildings
    in the Broadgate Centre are due to expire in the next few years, and space is rapidly running out in the estate. Taking advantage
    of changes in the viewing corridors to St Paul's cathedral, they have hinted at the possibility of much taller buildings on some of
    the existing sites, perhaps as high as 150m/35 storeys. These new offices would join the Broadgate Tower literally next door.
    Any construction is unlikely to start until the next property cycle in 2011-2012, however.

  • Multiplex Tower. This major new residential tower was approved in March 2006 as part of the Elephant & Castle redevelopment.
    It will stand 147m tall and construction is expected to start in late 2006.

  • First Base have plans for a tower which could be a neighbour for the Multiplex Tower, possibly of the same height.

  • Wood Wharf. This will include two towers of around 140m. Construction of these could begin in late 2007.

  • The Three Sisters. A trio of buildings in Waterloo, situated next to the Shell Building. The tallest would be around 140m.

  • 22 Marshwall. 139m tall and 110m tall residential towers for Marshwall in the Isle of Dogs literally next door to Riverside South.
    Groundwork is well underway and construction is confirmed for January 2007.

  • East India Dock Road Development. After the successful launch of the Elektron Tower scheme, Barratt Homes have
    another new project for a site just over the road. This consists of a series of post-modernist yellow apartment blocks,
    the tallest of which is around 138m/45 floors.

  • Ontario Tower 2. Ballymore are planning a neighbour for the Ontario Tower. Designed by Skidmore, Owings & Merrill, it will
    be 136m/44 storeys.

  • City Road tower. LMS are planning a mixed-use scheme next to the Old Street roundabout, on the northern edge of the City.
    This could start in 2008 if it gets planning, as they get vacant possesion at the end of 2007. Height is an impressive 43 storeys.

  • Grand Union Building. 132m office tower, part of the Paddington Basin redevelopment. Currently on-hold due to downturn
    in the office market.

  • Crossharbour. 131m residential tower being planned for the Docklands. The original proposal for this building was
    53 storeys tall, with a structural height of 170 metres. It was reduced in height following concerns from local residents
    and the planning authority.

  • Kings Reach Tower. Reclad of the existing tower, plus a height increase to 130m. Consent for the scheme was granted in July 2005.

  • Dome Waterfront Hotel. Situated on the Greenwich Peninsula, this has been approved and will become
    the UK's tallest hotel. 127m.

  • Lots Road, Chelsea. Two residential towers, one of 122m/37 storeys and another of 85m/25 storeys. The taller tower
    was originally planned at 99m, but was given a height increase and has now been approved. The shorter building,
    originally planned at 130m, has now been reduced in height, and is approved. However, the towers are now embroiled
    in a legal dispute with a local NIMBY and are on hold.

  • News International, Wapping. The headquarters of News International will feature two towers - one of 122m/27 storeys
    and another of 56m/12 storeys. These will stand mid-way between the City of London and Canary Wharf.

  • Oracle Homes are planning a 40-storey residential tower to the south of Riverside South. Height will be around 120m.

  • Convoy's Wharf. A trio of 3 residential towers in Greenwich, all of which were recently approved. The tallest
    will be 116m/40-storeys, but its AOD height will be significantly higher, at 148m. The other towers
    will be 91m/32 storeys and 72m/26 storeys respectively. Architect is Richard Rogers.

  • Islington City Basin Towers. Two towers with heights of 115m and 90m have outline planning permission for a site
    in Islington, North London. Construction was expected to begin soon. However, the scheme has now been called in
    by anti-highrise minister Ruth Kelly and will almost certainly be cancelled.

  • Arrowhead Quay. New office development being developed by Ballymore that will stand just to the south of the
    main cluster. Groundwork is underway and construction is confirmed to be starting in February 2007. It is
    being redesigned first, however. Height of the current proposal is 111m/25 storeys, but this might be increased slightly.

  • Walbrook Square. A major redevelopment of a prominent site between Cannon Street and Bank stations which will see
    the demolition of Bucklesbury House, one of the City's ugliest and most notorious concrete groundscrapers. In its place will
    stand four individual buildings connected by a new public square and 'historic' pedestrian routes, along with an exhibition space
    displaying the remains of the Roman Temple of Mithras. In total, this massive development will contain almost a million square feet
    of floorspace and will feature buildings of 106m, 71m, 67m and 66m. This development will be very visible from Waterloo Bridge.

  • 100 Middlesex Street. A midrise tower that will stand close to the site of Minerva and will help to stretch the City skyline
    northeastwards. This was approved in May 2004 as an office tower, but has now been proposed as a residential tower instead.
    This has seen a very slight height reduction, but an increase in the number of floors and will now be 105m/34 storeys.

  • Pioneer Point North. This 105m/31 storey tower is now believed to be part of a scam, and the parties involved are currently
    under investigation. The site is close to the planned Olympic stadium.

  • Eagle House. A mixed-use tower for Old Street/City Road, just north of the City. Approved in April 2006. Architect is Terry Farrell
    and the developer is Groveworld. Height is 104m/34 storeys.

  • Millharbour Residentials. This new development is proposed right next door to the Pan Peninsula towers. It consists of
    six interlinked towers of various heights, the tallest being approximately 100m/30 floors.

  • United Standard House. This combined hotel and office will stand near the Minerva Building. It will contain a glass atrium
    of interlocking sheets that rise up the middle all the way to its top. The height will be just under 100m/24 storeys.

  • Reuters Blackwall Yard Redevelopment. Another project designed by Squire and Partners which includes a residential
    tower of 98m/29 storeys. The development has been approved and will be located near Canary Wharf.

  • Milton Court. A redevelopment on Moor Lane, right near Citypoint and the Barbican, which will include a 30-storey residential tower.
    This is unusual for the City, as the Corporation is normally reluctant to allow residential schemes.

  • Waterloo Trilogy Tower. Willingale Associates have plans for a 30 storey tower - dubbed Waterloo Trilogy Tower - on the
    corner of Waterloo Road and Baylis Road, near the London Eye.

  • Various projects in Croydon including a possible 28-storey "leaning tower".

  • Ropemaker Place. Bulky midrise for the City which will stand literally next door to Citypoint and Moorhouse. Resubmitted
    for a 3rd time by British Land, groundwork is now underway. The height is fairly significant at 96m/23 storeys
    but the effect on the skyline will be minimal due its bulk and massing.

  • 33-35 Commercial Road. A new residential tower, designed by Burland TM Architects for a fringe site just to the east of
    the City of London. It will provide accommodation for 750 students in a smoothly tapering block with an interesting
    lighting scheme around the crown. 95m/36 storeys

  • Ailsa Waterside. Mixed-use development in the Lower Lea Valley which includes 800 new homes in a cluster of towers.
    The tallest is around 95m/30 storeys.

  • 100 West Cromwell Road. Multiplex are planning a tower for a site on Cromwell Road / Hammersmith Flyover,
    overlooking the tube from Earls Court to Olympia in West London. This is a residential development and the
    height is 92m/27 storeys.

  • Clapham Junction Towers. A trio of residential towers, the tallest is estimated at 88m. A massive shopping centre
    will be built on the lower floors, incorporating more than 250,000 sq ft of retail space.

  • "Baby Shard" (a.k.a. New London Bridge House). As part of the Shard London Bridge development, Irvine Sellar plans to
    demolish New London Bridge House and replace it with a 600,000 sq ft office building of 88m.

  • Trinity One, Two and Three. A series of three enormous glass offices planned by Beetham for a massive site
    on Minories, in the Aldgate area. Heights are 85m, 60m and 45m. The tallest will feature an observation deck
    and public cafe on the top floor. It is confirmed that the shortest building will be built speculatively.

  • West End Green. A residential tower that could start construction next year. Reduced in height from 133m to 85m.

  • Indescon Court. A trio of mixed use buildings to the south of the main Canary Wharf cluster. Phase 1 is confirmed to be starting in January 2007.
    The tallest will be 84m/26 storeys.

  • Altitude 25. New residential midrise. It will become the tallest building in Croydon, South London. 82m/26 storeys.

  • Swiss Cottage Station Tower. Manchester developer Pervaiz Naviede is planning a tower of up to 25 storeys in north London,
    after buying a landmark site above Swiss Cottage Tube station from CIT.

  • 30 Crown Place. A wide, glassy office tower is planned for Shoreditch, just to the north of the City, near Broadgate.
    It was approved in February 2006. Architects are Horden Cherry Lee, and the tower's height will be 81m/19 storeys.

  • Elektron Towers. Developer Barratt Homes has begun construction of a massive housing scheme along
    Aspen Way, opposite the Millenium Dome. This will feature three towers ranging in height from 73m to 81m.

  • Mitre Square. Another new midrise from Helical Bar, planned for EC3 in the City. Architect is Sheppard Robson.
    It was recently confirmed that construction will start in 2006. Height will be 80m/19 storeys.

  • Chesterfield House. New midrise being planned for Wembley, North London. The design is similar to Moorhouse.
    It has been approved since 2001 and is yet to begin work. Height is 80m/19 storeys.

  • No.1 The Gateway. A new residential tower which will stand to the northeast of the main Canary Wharf cluster.
    The developers are Galliard Homes, who have several other large projects in the works. Height is 79m/25 storeys.

  • Aldgate Union. A massive groundscraper under construction on the eastern edge of the City. In total, it will contain
    nearly 600,000 sq ft of floorspace. The 2nd phase will start in 2007 and includes a tower of 79m/17 storeys.

  • Lewisham Gateway. A major redevelopment of this busy shopping and transport hub, the masterplan includes
    various midrises including a possible 77m tower.

  • 252-385 Alie Street. Hamilton Associates have submitted planning proposals for a new 76m/25 storey energy-efficient tower
    in Aldgate. The building will have 287 apartments including affordable housing, plus retail units at ground floor.

  • Regents Place Tower. British Land are planning a 76m office tower for a site near Euston Station. The architects are Wilkinson Eyre.

  • Great West Quarter. This project, part of the urban regeneration of the Great West Road Corridor, comprises the
    redevelopment of the old Smithkline Beecham H.O. brownfield site into a new large mixed use residential development.
    The project, to be completed in 2010 over a number of phases, will provide in excess of 750 private and affordable
    residential units. The developers are Barratt Homes, and the tallest tower will be around 75m/25 storeys.

  • Drapers Gardens redevelopment. New 74m midrise to replace the existing 100m tower. This will be the tallest demolition
    ever carried out in the UK.

  • 4 Mastmaker Road. A pair of residential towers, to the south of the main Canary Wharf cluster. Both are rumoured to be starting shortly.
    They will be 73m/22 storeys and 62m/19 storeys respectively.

  • Dashwood House. This midrise near Liverpool Street station is getting a reclad and a height increase, to 73m/17 storeys.
    Work is due to start on 20th January 2007.

  • Poplar Business Park Tower. Galliard Homes are planning a new residential development to the northeast of Canary Wharf
    and the scheme is currently being marketed. Height is 24 storeys, which would be around 72m. The planning application
    can be accessed here.

  • 399 Edgware Road. New 72m residential tower, approved in November 2006.

  • Royex House. A 70m midrise for the City which will add to the cluster around CityPoint/Moorhouse.

  • 1 Commercial Street. A new 70m tower for the eastern edge of the City. It will join several other new towers
    in the Aldgate area, the largest of course being Minerva.

  • Potters Fields. A cluster of 8 towers, resembling Daleks, that would be built on the green space currently situated between
    Tower Bridge and City Hall. The tallest would be 69m. They were recently approved, the developers are now
    unlikely to pursue the scheme, following massive opposition by local residents.

  • Ability Place, also known as 31-39 Millharbour. A residential development that will stand close to the Pan Peninsula Tower.
    Construction started in January 2006 and the height will be 67m/22 floors.

  • Wandsworth Road Development. A new residential midrise for Wandsworth Road, SW8. Height is 65m/21 storeys.

  • 64-74 Mark Lane. New office tower, adjacent to Fenchurch Street station. It is being built speculatively and is confirmed
    for an April 2007 start
    . The developer is Schroders Exempt Property Unit Trust (SEPUT) and the architects are Bennetts Associates.
    The sloping glass roof will provide skygarden access on a number of floors. Height is 63m/17 storeys.

  • 15 Canada Square. This scheme is the last of the plots on Canada Square in Canary Wharf to be developed. KPMG - one of
    the "big four" accountancy firms - have now been secured as tenants, taking almost 600,000 sq ft of floorspace in one of the
    largest office deals of recent years. Construction is expected to get underway soon and a completion date of early 2009 has been

  • Blackfriars Road development. Great Portland Estates are planning a redevelopment of this prominent site on Blackfriars Road,
    with a striking new 15-storey office tower containing 130,000 sq ft of offices with ancillary retail and residential accommodation
    in a separate building. A planning application was submitted in September 2006.

  • The Stratford Eye. Also known as Maryland Works Redevelopment. A new 19-storey tower being built as part of
    the regeneration of Stratford. 58m/19 floors.

  • 5, 10 and 20 Churchill Place. A trio of enormous groundscrapers being built around the Barclays headquarters in Canary Wharf.

  • Bankside 2 and Bankside 3. Part of the Bankside 123 development which has been under construction for some time now.
    These large groundscrapers are being built right next to the Tate Modern. Height is 46m/11 storeys.

  • More London. A group of huge midrises on the South Bank, directly opposite the City, adjacent to City Hall. These are currently
    in the process of being internally fitted out, with most of the development completed. Tenants of the Heron Tower site,
    Norton Rose, will be moving there in the Autumn of 2007, allowing construction of Heron Tower to start. Height of
    these buildings is only 44m/10 storeys, but they add vast amounts of floorspace and a significant amount of density to the area.

  • Westminster Bridge Park Plaza. A 14-storey luxury hotel with 900 suites, along with business lounges, executive meeting rooms,
    a ballroom, 2 restaurants, a brasserie, bars, health spa, gymnasium and indoor pool. It will also feature one of London's
    largest conference rooms. It replaces an ugly groundscraper on a site virtually opposite Big Ben. Demolition is underway.

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Old February 5th, 2007, 12:24 PM   #673
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Mitre Square hasn´t started construction yet??
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Old February 5th, 2007, 12:27 PM   #674
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This is in the construction process. I informed in the relevant UK thread this was well underway. I beleive it is 80 meters.

[edit] United standard [email protected] Aldgate:Might be wrong i think this is quite old and isn't what the scheme will look like.

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Old February 5th, 2007, 12:47 PM   #675
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The Swiss Re Gherkin is no more...it's been sold off by Swiss Re for £600 million.

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It will still be known as SwissRe!
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The Grand Union Building can be taken off the summary list can't it Will?

I was under the impression it wasn't going ahead?
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im suprised london hasnt allready got an incredible skyline, i mean, for a start its the most powerful city on earth.
im glad its gone up a gear and started to build some monsters
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London already has an impressive skyline. Obviously nothing like Hong Kong or New York in terms of immediate impact - but still, it has a fascinating amount of detail and variety in its cityscape. You just have to know the right locations to view it, and the right things to look out for. Skylines aren't just about tall buildings.
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All true, but I can see why some people hold the opinion that Londons skyline is'nt that well developed...in the 21st century we are used to seeing images of modern cities thrusting into the skyline. We are all very familiar with images of New York's skyline for instance, and it only takes a quick glance at a shot of Manhatten to see it's impact as a modern skyline. This is not always immediatley apparent when viewing images of London's skyline. For a start London has more than one skyline really...and it's roughly twice the size (more spread out) of New York, so isn't as dense. London is a city that needs to be visited to understand why it holds it head up just as high if not higher than the other major cities of the world....personally I like many others feel it's higher..
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