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Old July 20th, 2013, 09:33 AM   #7021
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Agree with 7rani, you can't compare. London is much better. But let's leave that for another thread, this thread is only about London.
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Old July 20th, 2013, 11:50 AM   #7022
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Agree with 7rani.
You do know he was trolling, right?

..Go into the French section of SSC (London thread) where he hangs out with 3 or 4 other London hating, trolling French losers, bitching about London every time a new project is listed here...they're as jealous as the day is long.


As for this American who keeps going on about London, I'd like to know who the hell he thinks he is?, telling us what is and what isn't the correct definition of London's population.

It's not for him to decide which measure we use.
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Old July 20th, 2013, 11:55 AM   #7023
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Great news about the new tower in CW. Unfancy but sleek and should be a very good addition. Presumably it'll be built to design, no height reduction looming or anything like that?
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Old July 20th, 2013, 01:23 PM   #7024
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Great news about the new tower in CW. Unfancy but sleek and should be a very good addition. Presumably it'll be built to design, no height reduction looming or anything like that?
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Best news for a while.
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Old July 20th, 2013, 01:26 PM   #7025
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25 Churchill Place | Canary Wharf E14

London forum thread: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1487252

The tower is near external completion, with just the corners at the plant levels to go. Photo taken yesterday by myself:


Canary Wharf from Blackwall, London by SE9 London, on Flickr


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Old July 20th, 2013, 01:30 PM   #7026
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Canary Wharf Crossrail Station | Canary Wharf E14

London forum thread: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=871486





Construction update for the new £500m ($785m) station at Canary Wharf. Photo taken yesterday by myself:

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Old July 20th, 2013, 01:32 PM   #7027
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Riverside South | Canary Wharf E14

London forum thread: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...hp?p=102180339



Construction update at the basement of Riverside South. Photos taken yesterday by myself:


Riverside South construction site - Canary Wharf, London by SE9 London, on Flickr


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Old July 20th, 2013, 01:34 PM   #7028
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Lincoln Plaza | Millharbour E14

London forum thread: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1505132



Lincoln Plaza is now above ground. Photo taken yesterday by myself:

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Old July 20th, 2013, 01:45 PM   #7029
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Tate Modern extension | Bankside SE1

London forum thread: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=377117

Official website: http://www.tate.org.uk/about/project...modern-project




More photos of the Tate Modern extension. A nearby resident has informed the London forum that brickwork has started, although this isn't visible in the photos below. Photos taken yesterday by forumer stevekeiretsu:

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Old July 20th, 2013, 01:52 PM   #7030
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Aldgate Place | Aldgate E1

London forum thread: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1646861

Aldgate Place, a residential project comprising of 26, 25 and 22 storey towers, was approved this week:



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Old July 20th, 2013, 01:59 PM   #7031
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The Leadenhall Building | City of London EC3

London forum thread: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=415718

Official website: http://www.theleadenhallbuilding.com/



Forumer lumberjack has taken photos yesterday from the summit of the structure:

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Old July 20th, 2013, 02:03 PM   #7032
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Guys, I've just noticed that you're comparing London to NYC
London is a huge capital in Europe, like Paris and Moscow. But be humble and logical, it's so far to be compared to the capital of the world, ie NYC!
Everyone's opinion is different, everyone has different criteria for what defines the greatest city and technically no city on earth is the greatest they are all different each having their pro's and con's and characteristics.

People can have a favourite city based on their individual opinion and criteria, my favourite city is London but that doesn't make it the best city. New York has some better characteristics than London and visa versa.
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Old July 20th, 2013, 02:03 PM   #7033
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240 Blackfriars Road | Southwark SE1

London forum thread: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=457359

Photo update taken yesterday. Base and crown cladding to go:

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Old July 20th, 2013, 02:03 PM   #7034
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A big fat OMG those shots by lumerjack are sensational thank you so much SE9 for posting them here
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Old July 20th, 2013, 02:06 PM   #7035
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No problem! Lumberjack is an invaluable contributor.
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Old July 20th, 2013, 02:08 PM   #7036
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South Bank Tower | South Bank SE1

London forum thread: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=429988

Official website: http://www.southbanktower.com/




Construction update on the South Bank Tower, following the good news on the its 11-storey height increase posted earlier this week. Photo taken yesterday:

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Old July 20th, 2013, 02:19 PM   #7037
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Guys, I've just noticed that you're comparing London to NYC
London is a huge capital in Europe, like Paris and Moscow. But be humble and logical, it's so far to be compared to the capital of the world, ie NYC!
that's your opinion but its not a fact by any means
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Old July 20th, 2013, 02:55 PM   #7038
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I just wanna thank you SE9 for keeping us updated!! You are great!

And regarding the NYC-LONDON "battle" I wanna say that alright I get why some people are so excited about New York but they have to realise that height isn't everything. Yes, that makes New York have the WOW factor, but you have to admit that architecturally both cities are almost equal. London may not have the wow factor but it does have other better things than Nyc and vice versa. Plus, Manhattan may have all these skyscrapers, but have you noticed how many extremely old ones it has which look absolutely awful? Also, I've always thought that when people compare the two they tend to make the comparison between Manhattan and London and not NYC as a whole. This means that the comparison includes the shitty areas of London but not Queens, Brooklyn, the Bronx etc. How unfair is that?

And besides, if height was everything then Nyc wouldn't really be so great would it? It would lose the battle by hundreds of cities of the east. Let's just accept the FACT that both are great, and it just comes down to personal preference. Love both
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Old July 20th, 2013, 05:14 PM   #7039
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No problem regarding the updates.

Regarding the discussion, it was no battle. The discussion arose due to a wider discussion about the amount of development currently being undertaken in London, which is necessary for the population increase that London is experiencing. A population increase that will soon see London overtake New York City in population for the first time since the 1950s.

The discussion continued for a while because some non-locals were unfamiliar with what London's city limits are, and stubbornly refused to accept what London or its population is, despite the fact that its city limits and population is unmistakably defined.
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Old July 20th, 2013, 05:44 PM   #7040
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And regarding the NYC-LONDON "battle" I wanna say that alright I get why some people are so excited about New York but they have to realise that height isn't everything. Yes, that makes New York have the WOW factor, but you have to admit that architecturally both cities are almost equal.
I don't think London lacks wow factor next to New York. London buildings like Big Ben/Parliament, St Paul's, Tower Bridge, St Pancras, Westminster Abbey, Greenwich Naval College, Natural History Museum, Hampton Court, O2 Dome, London Eye, Wembley, etc, are spectacular, yet New York has no equivalents. Skyscrapers are but one architectural form.
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But be humble and logical, it's so far to be compared to the capital of the world, ie NYC!
London's global connectivity dwarfs that of New York, so arguably London is more the world city, and New York more a domestic American city. This is especially apparent when you look at airport traffic.
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Agreed, Staten Island is the forgotten step-child of NYC. Most of Queens, on the other hand, is still pretty dense and urban, and totally comparable to many places I see in inner London.

Even counting the outer parts of queens (queens, itself, being the second least dense borough of NYC) it still has a population density of 21,116//sq mi

Inner London in 2001 (I understand it would have a nice boost in today's numbers), which includes within it the absolute core of London, has a population density of 23,460/sq mi

As you can see it's not far off from Inner London's pop density and has a legitimate designation as forming part of the core of the NYC urban area/metro region.
You're just looking at residential density. What about commercial space? Queens has nothing like the volume of offices, retail, or other non-residential concentrations found in Inner London. And, once again, it's inconceivable that major airports like JFK and La Guardia could be located anywhere in Inner London. Frankly the comparison is ludicrous. NYC and Inner London are not equivalent at all, and anyone arguing as such is either ignorant or manipulative. New York's equivalent to Inner London is Manhattan and adjacent areas of Brooklyn, Bronx, Queens. Outer Queens and Staten Island are equivalent to Outer London. NYC as a whole is comparable to Greater London, albeit denser, and with less parks.
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