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Old August 27th, 2007, 10:30 PM   #981
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WoW The construction is booming in London!
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Old August 28th, 2007, 02:25 AM   #982
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Seen in the Times of London tonight.
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Delay for UK’s tallest tower as backers struggle for funding
By James Rossiter

The Times
August 27, 2007

The timetable for completing the Shard of Glass, intended to be Britain’s tallest building, has been put back by at least a year to 2012 as its backers struggle to secure finance.

The owners of the New London Bridge House project, a 1,016ft skyscraper, had aimed to secure about £350 million this summer to fund construction, but City concern about the financial credibility of Simon Halabi, the one-third owner, had made it hard to gain finance, sources said, as had a souring debt market.

Mr Halabi is thought to be sitting on a £150 million loss after buying the Esporta fitness chain this year for £470 million, only for Société Générale, his main bank lender for the purchase, to put the holding company into administration this month.

A source close to the Shard project said: “There is the problem of Halabi. Esporta is not helping the financing. The reality is people are asking: ‘Has he got the money?’ But this is a more fundable deal than most. Orginally it was planned for 2010. It may take a couple of years longer. If there is finance in the autumn and it goes up by 2011 it can be completed in 2012. The earliest is 2012. No one anticipated the time over planning inquiries and Mr Halabi.”

The Shard project is owned by the Halabi Family Trust, CLS, a property company, and Sellar Property Group.
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Old August 28th, 2007, 04:59 AM   #983
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What a surprise that you would post this hear

And apparently all it means is that it will take longer to get built, so your attempt to undermine peoples view will surely fail.
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Old August 28th, 2007, 11:03 AM   #984
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... so your attempt to undermine peoples view will surely fail.
Do you really see an "attempt to undermine peoples view"???

All I see is a guy posting an article, from one of the main British newspaper, about a project in London.

BTW, it's just a delay so it should go up!
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Old August 28th, 2007, 11:21 AM   #985
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Of course its going up, the project is far to advanced.
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Old August 28th, 2007, 11:34 AM   #986
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What a surprise that you would post this hear

And apparently all it means is that it will take longer to get built, so your attempt to undermine peoples view will surely fail.
this article was sent from Wjfox2002 yesterday
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Old August 28th, 2007, 02:41 PM   #987
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Published 28 August 2007 at 11:32, updated 11:40
Renzo’s backers rubbish rumours of delay to Shard



The group behind Renzo Piano’s London ‘Shard’ scheme has strongly denied rumours the project will be delayed by more than a year.
A report in yesterday's The Times claimed Piano’s much-anticipated ‘Shard of Glass’ scheme would be delayed until 2012 at the earliest because of one of the project’s backers faced funding problems.

However, the story has been rubbished by a Sellar Property Group spokesman, which is one of the main parties delivering the 310m-high development.

The spokesman said: ‘I don’t know where they got the story from, but it’s simply not true. The scaffolding is going up as we speak and once that has happened the existing building [Southwark Towers] will be demolished. Everything is progressing as planned.’

The Times had reported that Simon Habali, a one-third owner of the Shard, had found it hard to secure funding for the project due to him ‘sitting on a £150 million loss’ after buying the Esporta fitness chain for £470 million earlier this year.

The article added that Habali, Sellar and CLS – another property group – hoped to raise £350 million over the summer to finance the project, but this had not transpired and so the scheme would not be completed ‘until at least 2012’.

However, according to Sellar Property, the completion date remains at 2011.

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Old August 28th, 2007, 02:47 PM   #988
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Old August 28th, 2007, 07:40 PM   #989
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this article was sent from Wjfox2002 yesterday
I know, what i meant is that this guy clearly has it in for London (for reasons i cant explain) why not leave it to one of the UK forum members to post it here?
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Old August 28th, 2007, 08:18 PM   #990
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Maybe because it's just some informations from a serious paper?
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Old August 28th, 2007, 09:14 PM   #991
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I know, what i meant is that this guy clearly has it in for London (for reasons i cant explain) why not leave it to one of the UK forum members to post it here?
I really don't think it matters who posts the article TBH. I don't think bnmaddict did it malicously or anything.

Anyway, it seems to have been debunked quickly by the consortium, so no need to worry at the moment.
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Old August 28th, 2007, 09:23 PM   #992
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I really don't think it matters who posts the article TBH. I don't think bnmaddict did it malicously or anything.

Anyway, it seems to have been debunked quickly by the consortium, so no need to worry at the moment.
True... I didn't post it though...
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Old August 28th, 2007, 09:26 PM   #993
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Anyway, it seems to have been debunked quickly by the consortium, so no need to worry at the moment.
It was only to be expected though, that the consortium would deny it. It would be rather stupid of them to confirm the information. All I can see is there really seems to be a problem with this tower, which Jeff has warned about for a long time already. Of course Ken Livingstone really REALLY wants this tower, so it will probably get built in the end, unless Livingstone loses the mayoral elections of course, which is not to be totally excluded.
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Old August 28th, 2007, 10:27 PM   #994
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Multiplex to build London's Pinnacle

17:12 | 28.08.07

Arab Investments has awarded the contract to build the Pinnacle to Multiplex.

By Deirdre Hipwell


The contract for the tallest skyscraper in the City has been agreed at a maximum price of around £500m.

Construction of the 945 foot tower on Bishopsgate is expected to start early next year with completion in two years time. Planning permission has already been granted and demolition work has begun.

Khalid Affara, managing director of Arab Investments said: ‘I am delighted to have reached agreement with Multiplex to build this unique tower, the centrepiece of the City’s cluster of tall buildings. There are very few companies in the world able to take on such a project and Multiplex are one of them. We look forward to a successful partnership and to the building of an iconic addition to the London skyline. When you talk about London you’ll talk about this.’

The Pinnacle, designed by KPF, will have 950,000 sq feet of space and will host the capital’s highest restaurant on its 60th floor.

Multiplex has experience of building tall buildings in Australia and the Middle East.

Arab Investments, which has the backing of 70 Middle Eastern investors, bought the site from German open ended fund manager DIFA for £200m in May. Savills is letting agent.
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Old August 29th, 2007, 12:54 AM   #995
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True... I didn't post it though...
Oops! lol! sorry

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It was only to be expected though, that the consortium would deny it. It would be rather stupid of them to confirm the information. All I can see is there really seems to be a problem with this tower, which Jeff has warned about for a long time already. Of course Ken Livingstone really REALLY wants this tower, so it will probably get built in the end, unless Livingstone loses the mayoral elections of course, which is not to be totally excluded.
The fact is though, unlike most towers in London, this one has two LARGE pre-lets.

The apartments alone will make absolute shitloads of money when they are sold. Whoever gets involved in this project, it is win-win for them. I am pretty positive this tower will go ahead, who knows, the arab investors may even step in like they did with Heron and Bishopsgate!
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Old August 29th, 2007, 01:06 AM   #996
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A new, taller tower next to the U/C Broadgate Tower has gone in for planning, expected to be atleast 175m. More details soon, but here is a render we found recently.

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Old August 29th, 2007, 11:46 PM   #997
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2 new possible residential towers for the Wharf, posted by London lad in the UK forums:

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Thought this deserved its own thread.

Jacobs Webber seem to have been busy recently on working on plans & feasibility studies for a few of the sites along Marsh Wall. The Quay house development has its own thread already.

www.jacobswebber.com

There's 2 sites to the Eastern side of Marsh Wall next to the proposed 100m Discovery dock tower & Pan P which could have high rises.

One is on the site of Thames Quay. A site owned by Shroders which has been mentioned in PW as being a potential 750,000sq ft development. This is the feasibility scheme drawn up for it.

[IMG]http://i8.************/5z1l9us.jpg[/IMG]


"This feasibility study looked at a number of alternative uses and configurations to settle for a chosen scheme consisting of office, hotel, residential, and retail spaces. The scheme is organized around a central square that provides for amenity space as well as access and servicing to each building. This configuration allows for a phased development that can flexibly respond to market requirements. At the crossroads of Millharbour Dock and the South Quay there would be a landmark 50 storeys residential tower"

The other site next door is owned by The Angel Group & a 40 storey tower has been designed for the site.

http://www.theangelgroup.com/index2.htm

[IMG]http://i4.************/4zva25s.jpg[/IMG]



"This 40 storey tower on the south side of Canary Wharf has been designed to contain 150 hotel keys, 150 serviced apartments, a health club / spa, conference centre and office podium. The tower will allow for panoramic views across the Isle of Dogs, Greenwich and Canary Wharf. The tower has been designed to allow for either a single operator or separate operators with their own independent entrance lobby and associated services. The building will be clad in floor to ceiling glazing and metal spandrels."


Its also worth considering Hammerson & Land Securities own most of the Harbour Exchange across the road & you can see when the next potential Docklands high rise expansion will come from.
If this keeps going, the Canary Wharf cluster could very well become the most dense in Europe eventually. It seems there are always new projects being worked up for the area. It will certainly be London's biggest cluster in terms of number of highrise buildings.

Updated list of towers planned for the Wharf:

On the back of yet another proposal for the Wharf, I came up with this list:

Riverside South Tower 1- 236m
One Canada Square- 235m
North Quay Tower 1- 216m
Heron Quays West Tower 1- 214m
North Quay Tower 3- 203m

HSBC HQ- 200m
Citigroup HQ- 200m
Riverside South Tower 2- 189m
1 Churchill Place-156m
Heron Quays West Tower 2- 155m
40 Bank Street- 153m
25 Bank Street- 153m
10 Upper Bank Street- 151m
Admiral’s Way Tower- 150m+
Thames Quay Tower- 150m+

Pan Peninsula Tower- 147m
Wood Wharf 1- 140m
Wood Wharf 2- 140m

Landmark East- 140m
New Providence Wharf Building C- 136m
Baltimore Wharf Tower- 131m
Pan Peninsula Tower 2- 122m

North Quay Tower 2- 120m
Angel Group Tower- 120m+

Arrowhead Quay- 113m
1 West India Quay- 111m
33 Canada Square- 105m
Ontario Tower- 104m
South Quay Square Phase 2- 100m


Green: Construction
Red: Planned
Black: Built


The list currently stands at 29 highrise buildings for the Wharf. Expect it to break through the barrier of '30 highrise buildings' soon

(There are actually some buildings that could be deemed highrise (i.e Landmark West, 98m,) but I am only including 100m+ buildings here)

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Old August 29th, 2007, 11:49 PM   #998
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Not sure why the thread was locked,but this tower just got planning permission. The Heritage lobby is threatening to get it called in so it wont be 2 weeks until we know for sure

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=517614
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Old August 29th, 2007, 11:58 PM   #999
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Doon Street looks very average anyway, was never a big fan of it tbh with you. That aside don't EH have anything better to do than loop off a few metres and floors of highrises that really are none of thier concern, shouldn't they be more concerned with the preservation/restorartion of older buildings rather than object to every highrise scheme being proposed.
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Old August 30th, 2007, 01:22 AM   #1000
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If this keeps going, the Canary Wharf cluster could very well become the most dense in Europe eventually. It seems there are always new projects being worked up for the area. It will certainly be London's biggest cluster in terms of number of highrise buildings.

Updated list of towers planned for the Wharf:

On the back of yet another proposal for the Wharf, I came up with this list:

Riverside South Tower 1- 236m
One Canada Square- 235m
North Quay Tower 1- 216m
Heron Quays West Tower 1- 214m
North Quay Tower 3- 203m

HSBC HQ- 200m
Citigroup HQ- 200m
Riverside South Tower 2- 189m
1 Churchill Place-156m
Heron Quays West Tower 2- 155m
40 Bank Street- 153m
25 Bank Street- 153m
10 Upper Bank Street- 151m
Admiral’s Way Tower- 150m+
Thames Quay Tower- 150m+

Pan Peninsula Tower- 147m
Wood Wharf 1- 140m
Wood Wharf 2- 140m

Landmark East- 140m
New Providence Wharf Building C- 136m
Baltimore Wharf Tower- 131m
Pan Peninsula Tower 2- 122m

North Quay Tower 2- 120m
Angel Group Tower- 120m+

Arrowhead Quay- 113m
1 West India Quay- 111m
33 Canada Square- 105m
Ontario Tower- 104m
South Quay Square Phase 2- 100m
That's 15 towers above 150m either planned, u/c or already built then. In La Défense there are 13 towers above 150m that are already built, and 10 more are planned to be built before 2013 as of my last count. As for towers under 150m, I am not a specialist, but ask Metropolitan and he'll probably be able to tell you exactly how many of them there are in LD.
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