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Old April 20th, 2014, 06:38 PM   #10121
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Isn't there a largely dormant Birmingham thread that could do with the post count as this conversation is getting rather tiresome.
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Old April 20th, 2014, 09:47 PM   #10122
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Isn't there a largely dormant Birmingham thread that could do with the post count as this conversation is getting rather tiresome.
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Old April 20th, 2014, 11:08 PM   #10123
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Embassy Gardens | Nine Elms SW8

London forum thread: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1623494

Official website: http://www.embassygardens.com/



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  • Homes: 1,982
  • Site area: 15 acres
  • Architects: Terry Farrell and Partners, Feilden Clegg Bradley Studios, AHMM and FLACQ





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_DSC3555 by NRM the 2nd, on Flickr


_DSC3677 by NRM the 2nd, on Flickr
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Old April 20th, 2014, 11:25 PM   #10124
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Any idea of the height of Embassy Gardens? According to that render, it looks pretty high - see road below. The building doesn't look as tall from other perspectives.
Cheers for the updates SE9.
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Old April 21st, 2014, 11:01 PM   #10125
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I can't tell you with certainty, as I haven't looked over the plans. They rise to around 80m.
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Old April 22nd, 2014, 01:40 PM   #10126
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Greenwich Market Redevelopment | Greenwich SE10

Official website: http://www.greenwichmarketlondon.com/

Planning application: Greenwich 14/0074/F



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  • Architect: Barr Gazetas


The redevelopment of Greenwich Market has been approved by Greenwich Council:

- Building Design: Barr Gazetas wins planning for stalled Greenwich Market

- Planning Resource: Greenwich Market redevelopment gets go-ahead






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Old April 22nd, 2014, 01:45 PM   #10127
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Stratford Central | Stratford E15

London forum thread: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1720080

Official website: http://www.stratford-central.co.uk/



Tower currently being marketed, with construction anticipated to commence soon:

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Old April 22nd, 2014, 03:01 PM   #10128
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ugly looks like a 60/70s block with a weird extension on top
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Old April 22nd, 2014, 04:16 PM   #10129
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Albeit to a far higher spec.
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Old April 22nd, 2014, 04:19 PM   #10130
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Nova Victoria | Victoria SW1

London forum thread: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=430049

Official website: http://www.novasw1.com/



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  • Cost: £2.2 billion ($3.6bn)
  • Total floorspace: 1,057,000 ft²
  • Office floorspace: 604,000 ft²
  • Residential floorspace: 201,000 ft²














Construction progress at Victoria. Photos by nrm the 2nd:







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Old April 22nd, 2014, 04:58 PM   #10131
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Terminal 2 | London Heathrow Airport

London forum thread: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=403697

Official website: http://www.heathrowairport.com/about...new-terminal-2



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  • Cost: £2.5 billion ($4bn)
  • Airlines: Star Alliance members
  • Passengers: 30 million per year


Terminal 2 has been undergoing testing this month ahead of its opening this summer. Some interior photos:















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Old April 22nd, 2014, 05:20 PM   #10132
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King's Cross | King's Cross N1C

London forum thread: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=505188

Official website: http://www.kingscross.co.uk/



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  • New mixed-use district on formerly disused industrial land, to be complete by 2020
  • Cost: £2.3 billion ($3.9bn)
  • Homes: 2,000
  • Commercial space: 743,000m²
  • Site area: 54 hectares

King's Cross has released a new video of the development:







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Old April 22nd, 2014, 05:26 PM   #10133
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King's Cross | King's Cross N1C
  • New mixed-use district on formerly disused industrial land, to be complete by 2020
Great to see projects that actively regenerate disused land like this. If I remember correctly the Queen Elizabeth park exacted a similar process. We should make better use of the land that we have, before we intrude on untouched areas.

Also that first Nova Victoria render is just
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Old April 22nd, 2014, 11:26 PM   #10134
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I can't tell you with certainty, as I haven't looked over the plans. They rise to around 80m.
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Old April 23rd, 2014, 11:24 AM   #10135
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Terminal 2 turned out great.
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Old April 23rd, 2014, 12:31 PM   #10136
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240 Blackfriars Road | Southwark SE1

London forum thread: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=457359

Official website: http://www.gpe.co.uk/property/our-po...iars-road.aspx



240 Blackfriars practically complete:

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Old April 23rd, 2014, 12:49 PM   #10137
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And here lies the problem. The only city we have to blame for the unique imbalance within the United kingdom is London and it's narrow minded policy makers of the 60s. Sweep those policies under a forgotten carpet and you might have a point. Unfortunately brummies and families of brummies will continue to argue and continue to laugh at the continual ignorance of many southerners when these type of commenuts pop up. If you're wondering what I'm getting at... Look at the GDP statistics of bboth Birmingham and London 1950's to 60's. Then look at the legislations and policies introduced to prevent the growth of Birmingham. Birmingham was growing so fsay and becoming so powerful London and the government were so worried they paid companies to leave Birmingham and set up elsewhere in the north and south of England. Over night the British government put a stop to Birmingham becoming one of Europe's most important city. There is coincidence that Birmingham was the heart of everything coming from the UK. It's had more influence in patented goods and innovations than anywhere else. It was the workshop of the world in the late 19th century and it was becoming just as important again. London didn't like how buzzing and important Birmingham was becoming again and actually inflicted this north south divide itself.

Ironically then they were happy to spread the wealth. Took it from the Midlands and gave it away to the rest of the country. How is it now the same isn't being done with London? Contradiction at its greatest and also signs of significant uneducated chitter chatter which helps with the propaganda started decades ago.
But the Banks have always wanted to work in the City of London.....

Birmingham didn't designate a dedicated Financial Hub and still hasn't. This is up to local/regional governments - not London. Keep in mind that Westminster is made up of MP's from all over the nation; so it is not purely a 'Southern' decision whether it was right or not.

Also; Birmingham did not and still does not have the infrastructure to be a huge Financial/Business metroplis... the City doesn't even have a Metro/Lightrail system whereas Cities such as Manchester, Sheffield, and Newcastle have realised this and built Metro's - and are still building them knowing that their is a race for the UK's next BIG Cities. Once again this was decided locally/regionally and not in London. A fine example of this is the Manchester Metro.

I do completely agree with you; and the UK needs a Second Major City. But London should not just hand over it's power, businesses, or projects purely the sake of distributing wealth... Businesses would not comply with this either.

I love the idea and proposal of Liverpool Waters - i.e. the Shanghai Tower. It's great because Liverpool has single handedly tried to create a new Financial District and strike deals with Chinese and foreign companies. It's projects like that that will make a Second City and indeed an international metropolis. From what I can/have seen... Birmingham is losing the race for Second City to the likes of Manchester and Liverpool.
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I absolutely adore 240 Blackfriars! It looks brilliant!
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Old April 23rd, 2014, 01:40 PM   #10139
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Old April 23rd, 2014, 02:35 PM   #10140
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But the Banks have always wanted to work in the City of London.....

Birmingham didn't designate a dedicated Financial Hub and still hasn't. This is up to local/regional governments - not London. Keep in mind that Westminster is made up of MP's from all over the nation; so it is not purely a 'Southern' decision whether it was right or not.
Banking sector is one of many industries. Birmingham did have a stock exchange thanks to its industries and commerce. However it had to close in 1986 due to the legislations put in place by Whitehall.

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Also; Birmingham did not and still does not have the infrastructure to be a huge Financial/Business metroplis... the City doesn't even have a Metro/Lightrail system whereas Cities such as Manchester, Sheffield, and Newcastle have realised this and built Metro's - and are still building them knowing that their is a race for the UK's next BIG Cities. Once again this was decided locally/regionally and not in London. A fine example of this is the Manchester Metro.
Birmingham has the biggest rail network outside London. It has the busiest rail interchange outside London. Birmingham does have a metro, albeit smaller than Manchesters but its growth was originally hindered by the fact that Birmingham was trying to get an underground. Funding wasn't supplied and to this day remains one of the largest cities in Europe and the World without one. Midland Metro (Centro) is being developed as we speak. Snow Hill - New Street will be completed by 2015 and New Street to Centenary Square by 2017. Birmingham will also open it's runway extension in a few weeks enabling which will see the airport nearly double in size within 6 years.

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I do completely agree with you; and the UK needs a Second Major City. But London should not just hand over it's power, businesses, or projects purely the sake of distributing wealth... Businesses would not comply with this either.
Exactly right. No city should have to. But Birmingham was FORCED too which has now created this uneven split in wealth across the country.

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I love the idea and proposal of Liverpool Waters - i.e. the Shanghai Tower. It's great because Liverpool has single handedly tried to create a new Financial District and strike deals with Chinese and foreign companies. It's projects like that that will make a Second City and indeed an international metropolis. From what I can/have seen... Birmingham is losing the race for Second City to the likes of Manchester and Liverpool.
This is blissful ignorance. Birmingham has the largest city centre masterplan in the UK. It has 27 Enterprise zones, the most of any city. It also has the only enterprise zones to cover the city centre.

Wirral Waters is a fantastic 'concept' however it's just that and will take many decades to build.

Birmingham is the most attractive regional UK city for FDI and has the only trade surplus with China which is why the first ever direct flights from China to the UK outside London was agreed with Birmingham.

Also Ironically - The same plan that was undertaken in Birmingham, was planned for London. Fortunately this didn't happen which is probably why London has continued to be such a success story.

Anyway - Enough of this.

Back to London's developments.

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