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Old August 30th, 2007, 01:28 AM   #1001
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is ld paris s only high rise area? it never looks that impressive. neither does cw but i feel it soon will
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Old August 30th, 2007, 01:28 AM   #1002
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That's 15 towers above 150m either planned, u/c or already built then. In La Défense there are 13 towers above 150m that are already built, and 10 more are planned to be built before 2013 as of my last count. As for towers under 150m, I am not a specialist, but ask Metropolitan and he'll probably be able to tell you exactly how many of them there are in LD.
How many are over 200 metres?
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Old August 30th, 2007, 01:56 AM   #1003
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How many are over 200 metres?
7 as of my last count, but we're getting a bit off the topic of this thread now. I was merely commenting on Newcastle Guy's brave statement.
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Old August 30th, 2007, 02:15 AM   #1004
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From what I have seen Canary Wharf is planning for the longer term as opposed to La Defense. Notice my use of the word eventually. I don't expect it to happen overnight, not even in the next ten years. But Canary Wharf's expansion between now and 2025, along with the large residential boom in the area, could lead to it becoming the most dense cluster in Europe.

I'm looking at a model of Canary Wharf in the future now on Sketchup. It will be unrecognizable in a few years. The expansion, especially to the South, East and West, is tremendous for a space of 5 or so years. And again, keep in mind, Canary Wharf is planning to expand much more after that, they are currently thinking up to 2025. In the short term, la Defense I'm sure will remain the most dense. But I wouldn't rule out Canary Wharf in the future. You never know lol.

Anyway, we best get back to London.
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Old August 30th, 2007, 02:05 PM   #1005
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London is a nice city, I hope I can travel to London at the Olympic 2012.
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Old August 31st, 2007, 12:51 PM   #1006
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Based on the latest news/info, here are my predictions for 2008...

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London Bridge Tower (310m) - demolition will finish on Southwark Towers. I honestly don't know whether construction will happen. They either have to dump Simon Halabi and bring another investor on board, or secure another office tenant. If this doesn't happen by the summer, I can see this tower being shelved or even cancelled altogether. Construction must begin by Novemer 2008 or they'll have to re-apply for planning permission.

Bishopsgate Tower (288m) - construction will start in Feb/March for sure. This tower is almost 100% certain now. Basement level construction will happen through most of the year. Core and steelwork rising by Autumn.

Heron Tower (246m) - construction will start in January. Basement level construction through most of the year. Core and steelwork rising by Autumn.

Riverside South (236m & 189m) - according to the schedule, basement level construction will start in February and will last 14 months.

122 Leadenhall (225m) - demolition will be finished in February. However, one forumer who works for Bovis Lend Lease thinks construction will be put on hold until October.

Heron Quays West (200m+) - renderings of the new scheme will become available. No work on site though.

St George's Wharf (181m) - construction will start by the summer (site has already been demolished and cleared).

Beetham Tower (173m) - construction will start by the summer (site has already been demolished)

Broadgate Tower (164m) - this will be completed in May/June.

20 Fenchurch Street (160m) - according to the schedule, construction will start in May.

Croydon Gateway Tower (155m) - this will be delayed. The developers seem to be involved in a legal dispute.

Merchant Square (150m) - demolition will start on site by the end of the year.
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Old August 31st, 2007, 01:23 PM   #1007
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Thanks for that list Will, that really helps. Contradicting to what I said about the Shard previously about being optimistic, time will tell and I hope the flagship project of London doesn't go into the 'cancelled/vision' hysteria on the pages of Emporis/Wiki and diagrams of SSP. However I think it will happen, here's hoping a tenant lines up, the project's too big to shut off.

On a happier note the equally stunning Pinnacle looks a dead cert now and so is Leadenhall/Heron/Vauxhall etc.
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Old August 31st, 2007, 01:34 PM   #1008
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St George's Wharf (181m) - construction will start by the summer (site has already been demolished and cleared).
Is that when the rest of the 5-tier St Georges Wharf development will be finished? I worked at Nine Elms Lane earlier this summer and had a great birdseye view of the site from 12 floors up and the position of where the tower would go was occupied by materials for the part of the development u/c.
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Old August 31st, 2007, 06:26 PM   #1009
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Love at first sight

It was supposed to be a temporary attraction. But eight years on, the London Eye has become a shining symbol of our capital city. Steve Rose explains why taking it down would now be unthinkable

* Steve Rose
* Guardian Unlimited
* Friday August 31 2007

Way back in the late 20th century, who could have guessed that what the capital needed more than anything else was a gigantic hi-tech bicycle wheel on the South Bank? But in less than a decade, the London Eye has become such an integral part of our capital city, it feels as if it has always been there - and as if it has always belonged there. It is difficult to remember what we did without it.

London is full of buildings that are admired and adored, but the Eye has achieved a different magnitude of success altogether. It is arguably the great architectural statement of our time. There are very few people who don't like the Eye. You can measure its success in figures and statistics. It is the most popular paid-for attraction in the country, it draws more than 3.5 million visitors a year and, in a recent survey by Trip Advisor, it came out as the top attraction in Europe, beating even the Eiffel Tower. Research carried out when it was re-applying for planning permission showed that support for the Eye, both in the local area and across London, stood at 85%.

And let's not forget that the London Eye was supposed to be a temporary structure. It was only tentatively given planning permission for the first five years after the millennium. Its future is now secure, in planning terms at least, for at least another 20 years, but it is likely to be there a great deal longer. Who would dare pull it down?

Yes, we love the London Eye, but why? Isn't it the sort of thing we're supposed to hate - the sort of incongruous, intrusive interruption our heritage-minded nation of naysayers and nimbyists is supposed to get up in arms about? Perhaps the Eye is a testament to Britain's contradictory relationship with its own tradition. We Britons cherish our crusty, useless rituals, our cumbersome history, but now and again there is nothing we enjoy more than flicking a V sign at it all. After all, we're the nation that invented punk rock.

Or maybe it is simply the way that this 135m-high ring of steel and glass sits right next to a World Heritage Site - the Palace of Westminster - and makes no concessions to the precious statues and stonework and spires around it. It doesn't even blend in with the brutalist concrete of the South Bank. But because it is so light and transparent, the contrast works. The Eye doesn't detract from its sensitive surroundings; instead it throws them into 21st-century relief. It doesn't spoil the view; it refreshes it and completes it. It is the landmark we never knew we needed.

The architect Terry Farrell recently told me a revealing story about London and its landmarks. In the 1980s, he was pitching to design a new airport in Korea, which, inevitably, his clients wanted to be "iconic" - the sort of thing that would put their city on the map. Farrell, who has produced his fair share of distinctive buildings in London, such as MI5's headquarters, the TV-AM building and Charing Cross station, showed the Koreans a random selection of postcards of buildings from around the world and asked them to name the city. Some were easy - the Sydney Opera House, the Eiffel Tower - but to his surprise, virtually nothing said "London" loud and clear. Buckingham Palace? That could be any European chateau. St Paul's? It's a big cathedral - is it in Rome? Big Ben? It could be in Antwerp. The only building that unmistakably said "London" was Tower Bridge. That was Britain's architectural ambassador: a fussy, lovably eccentric but essentially redundant relic of the steam age.

The Eye is not the only new, exciting piece of architecture in London - you could include the Gherkin, Tate Modern (just about), and a handful of others - but it's the one that makes the postcards these days. It's the one that now represents London, thank God. It announces to the world that Britain is not stuck in the past, that we're looking ahead, that we still have something to offer - as evidenced by its heavy inclusion in London's bid for the 2012 Olympics.

There's something else about the Eye, other than its being a delightful thing to look at - a surreal, kinetic sculpture, a universal expression of geometric purity, a continuation of Britain's engineering heritage, even a feminine counterbalance to the phallic urban skyline - that warms us to it. It's the fact that it does something. It is not there just to be looked at. It's also there to be looked from.

George Orwell, in Keep The Aspidistra Flying, likened a night-time cab ride in London to "being on the ocean bottom, among the luminous, gliding fishes". Similarly, in The Secret Agent, Joseph Conrad describes stepping out on to a wet London street as "like the descent into an aquarium". London is by and large a city of bottom dwellers. Only the privileged few - top-floor executives, wealthy patrons of high-rise hotels and restaurants, intrepid window cleaners - can rise above the coral reef. You could look in from the edges - from Parliament or Primrose Hill, say - but before the Eye, the highest public vantage point in the centre of London was the Golden Gallery at the top of St Paul's Cathedral. It is still a decent view, even if it is rapidly being hemmed in by new skyscrapers in the City, but as anyone who has wheezed and squeezed up its cramped staircases knows, it is only marginally more accessible than Everest base camp.

But thanks to the Eye, all of us, of all ages and abilities, locals and visitors, can see all of London, right to the city's limits and the countryside beyond. Words are redundant in describing the view itself, but it puts the whole city in perspective and gives us the power to take it in at a glance. It gives it new meaning and it redraws our mental map of it. And best of all, it is situated right across the Thames from the Palace of Westminster, Whitehall and Downing Street. Superficially, at least, in the Eye we can oversee our elected representatives.

Perhaps it is not really fair to compare the Eye with other works of architecture. That is not to say it isn't architecture (even though the judging panel for the 2001 Stirling prize famously decided it wasn't), more to acknowledge that it exists in a category of its own. After all, it essentially has to fulfil only one function, and what a brilliantly inessential function it is: to lift people up from the ground, take them round a giant loop in the sky, then put them back down where they started. That is all it needs to do, and thankfully, that is all it does. Architecture is invariably deployed in the service of political and personal agendas, even when it is pretending to be selfless and civic-minded, but the Eye is about as democratic as you can make a structure. It spins, but it is free of spin. It contains nothing. It preaches no message. Instead, it gives London back to us.





The unlikely story of how the London Eye came to be built

The London Eye might never have been built, had it not lost the competition it was designed for. In 1993, an article in the Sunday Times invited readers to "design a monument for the dawn of a new era". It caught the attention of husband-and-wife team David Marks and Julia Barfield, who had recently established their own practice, having previously worked with both Richard Rogers and Norman Foster. But the construction business was in no way booming and, imagining that the competition might at least raise their profile, they quickly arrived on the idea of an updated Ferris wheel - an appropriate symbol to mark the occasion, and a fun trip for visitors. They submitted their entry and awaited the results.

Several months later, the Sunday Times quietly announced that nobody had won the competition since the entries had shown a disappointing lack of imagination. Back to the drawing board, as it were, but the image of the giant wheel stuck in the architects' minds, and they were convinced that it could work, both structurally and commercially. Usually architects design structures for property developers, institutions and authorities - the people with the money. But since nobody had commissioned a big wheel in the middle of London, Marks and Barfield decided they would build it themselves.

But they had a whole range of mountains to climb in order to do this. For a start, they needed someone to pay for it. The money came through a fortuitous encounter with a neighbour: Bob Ayling, then chairman of British Airways. A conversation between Marks and Ayling around the delivery of a Christmas card led to Ayling putting BA's weight and cash behind the project, which enabled the architects to mount a serious campaign to get planning permission - the greatest obstacle of all.

If the Millennium Wheel, as it was then called, was to go where they wanted it to go, in Jubilee Gardens, the architects would have to obtain written approval from everyone who might object to the scheme: local community groups, residents' groups, government bodies and agencies, transport groups, river and maritime bodies, architectural and historical societies, neighbouring businesses and facilities, and all 33 London boroughs. Over the next few years, armed with slides and models, the architects made hundreds of presentations explaining the Wheel, in MPs' offices, in tiny community centres, in marbled civic buildings, answering every conceivable question and solving every conceivable problem. There were some vociferous opponents, but to the architects' surprise, more than 80% of the respondents approved or made no objection. Even John Gummer, secretary of state at the time, went against the advice of his civil servants and chose not to call a public inquiry.

Even with everything in place, the Eye very nearly didn't happen. The construction contract went to the lowest bidder, the Japanese firm Mitsubishi, which rapidly realised it had priced itself too low. To cut costs, it attempted to "dumb down" Marks and Barfield's design innovations. Instead of revolving observation capsules of curved glass, they wanted traditional, semi-glazed hanging Ferris wheel cabins made of cheap materials. The architects chose to walk away rather than let their design be diluted, and the project faltered. Eventually, Mitsubishi left, and with less than two years to go, a new construction team was assembled using British, Dutch, French and Italian expertise. After a failed first attempt, the Eye was erected in time for the millennium, although the delays took their toll. A minor glitch with the stability systems in some of the capsules prevented the Eye's public opening until a few months later.

Marks and Barfield sold their stake in the London Eye last year, having been left with no other option. They had been one-third owners of it, along with British Airways and the Tussaud's Group, which operated the structure. British Airways had covered the Eye's cost overruns with a loan at an interest rate of 25%, which in effect allowed it to vacuum up the profits. The architects tried to negotiate a new deal, but then British Airways made the surprise move of selling its stake to Tussaud's, leaving the architects with little option but to do the same. The project has changed hand several times since, and is now owned by Merlin Entertainments Group.



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Old September 5th, 2007, 03:54 PM   #1010
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Another tower in London has now got planning permission

Demolition of curretn building to start soon & be finished by end of year. Construction of tower to take 1-1&1/2 years & finish by summer 2010. The nearby Strata tower should also be finished by then.

This is just outside the main E&C masterplan which should also have another 2-4 towers.

http://www.london-se1.co.uk/news/cat/1

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Old September 5th, 2007, 10:13 PM   #1011
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Old September 5th, 2007, 11:27 PM   #1012
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looks good...but no one seems sure about the london bridge tower...it looks great...
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Old September 10th, 2007, 06:51 PM   #1013
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Another Possible resi tower in Canary Wharf area, 53 floors:

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Estates Gazette are reporting that the Canadian company 'Jesta' are buying a 3 acre site around 47 Milharbour / Muirfield Crescent to build a residential tower. The site already has planning permission for a 10 storey building however they are considering other options including a 53 floor tower - this is that fabulous tower we have seen a few renders of - it looks like a ice shard and I think was positioned towards the bottom of Millwall dock.
Whoop.

I think that means the Canary wharf cluster now has 30 highrises (100m+)built, under construction, or planned. We are hearing about new towers in the area all the time now.
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Old September 10th, 2007, 07:04 PM   #1014
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Another Possible resi tower in Canary Wharf area, 53 floors:

Whoop.

I think that means the Canary wharf cluster now has 30 highrises (100m+)built, under construction, or planned. We are hearing about new towers in the area all the time now.
is it the glengall bridge development?

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Old September 10th, 2007, 07:16 PM   #1015
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Oui.

Probably not the same design though, but if they do go down this root (they would be STUPID not to) we can expect similar heights, 160m atleast. Will help stretch the cluster south a hell of a lot.

The developments we are hearing about now probably wont start construction for a while. Well saying that, they are resi towers. They seem to happen alot faster.

This COULD be Canary Wharf's Shard, if they keep a similar design.

Edit: Actually reminds me alot of a more 'cubic' version of Tour Phare.
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A new, taller tower next to the U/C Broadgate Tower has gone in for planning, expected to be atleast 175m. More details soon, but here is a render we found recently.



I REALLY LOVE THIS BUILDING, LONDON IS A VERY GOOD CITY...
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Old September 10th, 2007, 10:52 PM   #1017
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Oui.

Probably not the same design though, but if they do go down this root (they would be STUPID not to) we can expect similar heights, 160m atleast. Will help stretch the cluster south a hell of a lot.

The developments we are hearing about now probably wont start construction for a while. Well saying that, they are resi towers. They seem to happen alot faster.

This COULD be Canary Wharf's Shard, if they keep a similar design.

Edit: Actually reminds me alot of a more 'cubic' version of Tour Phare.
I wouldn't get to confident with this one- The previous owners tried unsuccessfully for nearly 18-24mths to try to persuade TH to change there mind & designate the area towards the South highrise. It would appear they did not succeed & instead a ten storey building is planned. This area is not lie the area along Marsh Wall as it is predominately very lowrise housing & not the large industrial & office plots that other highrises are planned for.
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Old September 24th, 2007, 04:32 PM   #1018
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Zaha Hadid to Design Hackney Project

Zaha Hadid has won planning permission to develop a daring new scheme in Hoxton Square, East London. The 900m² development, which will replace an existing 1980's building (number 33-34) on the east side of the square, will house a ground-floor gallery, offices and apartments. The project is set to become Hadid's first built project in England. Work is expected to start on the development in the autumn.

This proposal represents a bold addition to Hoxton Square. The dramatic sweep of the roof and stark modern elevations present an architectural counterpoint to the adjacent listed building. It also contributes a notable and signature building to the diversity of architectural styles already present in Hoxton Square.

"Hackney is already home to Jay Jopling's White Cube Gallery and together with Dalston Culture House, Hackney Empire, and Sir Richard Roger's planned Gillet Square development, Hackney looks set to become one of the world's most exciting destinations for lovers of art, culture and architecture," said Daniel Bridge, head of Invest in Hackney.



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Old September 25th, 2007, 08:58 PM   #1019
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Possible 40-storey/143m tower for Ealing, West London. Architect is Foster -

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Old September 26th, 2007, 04:37 AM   #1020
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Nice tower, but i can't really make out what the top looks like?!
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