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Old June 12th, 2014, 09:59 PM   #10721
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I walk down Whitehall every day on my way to work and certainly do not agree that they are dirty or decaying, in fact I think they look pretty good. Anyway the old war office building has just been cleaned and looks as good now as I would imagine it looked when first built. Other buildings too have recently been cleaned such as at horseguards and others in Whitehall recently. But even 'dirty' they look a lot better than a lot of the modern crap, give me a grubby Georgian/Victorian building over a clean 60's building, any day......
I passed through Whitehall, Trafalgar square and the city and a lot of buildings were covered in black soot and damage to the stone work. I just feel that we should have more pride in our appearence. Seeing that it is our capital city
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Old June 12th, 2014, 10:22 PM   #10722
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I passed through Whitehall, Trafalgar square and the city and a lot of buildings were covered in black soot and damage to the stone work. I just feel that we should have more pride in our appearence. Seeing that it is our capital city
There are parts of London that are as clean as a shopping mall. It's one of the tidiest, cleanest and most well-kept cities I've ever visited. Black soot and some chipped stonework is extremely minor. Go to Manchester and compare. There are giant, two storey deep holes in the city centre just sitting there, dormant, filling with water.

Other cities in the world, capital cities, have buildings made of corrugated metal and wooden planks. London is a paradise by comparison.
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Old June 12th, 2014, 10:34 PM   #10723
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There are parts of London that are as clean as a shopping mall. It's one of the tidiest, cleanest and most well-kept cities I've ever visited. Black soot and some chipped stonework is extremely minor. Go to Manchester and compare. There are giant, two storey deep holes in the city centre just sitting there, dormant, filling with water.

Other cities in the world, capital cities, have buildings made of corrugated metal and wooden planks. London is a paradise by comparison.
Having been to paris and new york, these cities seem to have more respect for their new and historical buildings than we do.
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Old June 12th, 2014, 10:39 PM   #10724
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Can anyone tell me why buildings at whitehall and in the city such as the boe, are not maintained and are left dirty and decaying ?.
For listed buildings each government department I believe has a historic estates department which must make sure that money is set aside for the repair and maintenance of these buildings. With constrained budgets at the moment, government departments don't have the money to set aside for major repairs and maintenance, as all funding must go to front line services. Hopefully with the economy picking up, government funding will become less constrained, and in a few years there will be the money for a deep clean and repair work on the buildings in Whitehall.
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Old June 13th, 2014, 01:50 AM   #10725
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Old June 13th, 2014, 02:08 AM   #10726
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The Goodsyard London | Shoreditch E1

London forum thread: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=430856

Official website: http://thegoodsyardlondon.co.uk/



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  • Developer: Hammerson and Ballymore
  • Architect: Farrells
  • Office space: 46,450m²
  • Retail space: 16,720m²
  • Homes: 1,400
  • Public space: 5.4 acres

Introducing London's newest large mixed-use development. A planning application is expected to be submitted this month, at which point more detailed renders will be posted:





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Old June 13th, 2014, 02:16 AM   #10727
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The Francis Crick Institute | St Pancras NW1

London forum thread: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1020221

Official website: http://www.crick.ac.uk/



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  • Cost: £600 million ($930m)
  • Floorspace: 79,000m²
  • Largest centre for biomedical research and innovation in Europe
  • 1,250 scientists, with an annual budget of over £100 million



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Old June 13th, 2014, 02:22 AM   #10728
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5 Broadgate | City of London EC2

London forum thread: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1186395

Official website: http://www.5broadgate.com/



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  • Floors: 13
  • Floorspace: 111,000m²
  • Trading floors: 4 (each accommodates 750 traders)
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  • Completion: 2016



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Old June 13th, 2014, 12:38 PM   #10729
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Greenwich Peninsula Regeneration | Greenwich Peninsula SE10

London forum thread: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=632984

Official website: http://www.greenwichpeninsula.co.uk/



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  • Developer: Knight Dragon
  • Cost: £5 billion ($8bn)
  • Homes: 10,000
  • Site area: 190 acres



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Old June 13th, 2014, 12:42 PM   #10730
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Greenwich Hub | Greenwich Peninsula SE10

London forum thread: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=632984

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  • Architect: Marks Barfield
  • Use: Marketing and Art Gallery




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Old June 13th, 2014, 01:05 PM   #10731
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The goods yard looks very promising especially the new park they are creating and the shops at street level. It's good that they stuck to mainly brick given the nature of the area. Build it I say
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Old June 13th, 2014, 03:33 PM   #10732
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Having been to paris and new york, these cities seem to have more respect for their new and historical buildings than we do.
I have been to these Cities too... ALL of which have problems. And honestly... I'd say London is probably best at looking after it's historical buildings. However, what one should remember is that some historical buildings are owned by businesses - and not the Government. This is the same in Paris, NYC, San Fran, Milan, etc etc; thus it is the business' responsibility to look after their own property.

Since the economic downturn for some businessesl; the aesthetics just aren't a hugh priority at the moment. But as the gent above me said, this should soon change.

But still... this sort of situation is still very much in a minority. London is one of the best looking Cities in the world, as are Paris and NYC - all of which have similar problems.
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Old June 13th, 2014, 06:31 PM   #10733
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London forum thread: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=871486

Official website: http://www.crossrail.co.uk/



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  • Cost: £15 billion ($25bn)
  • Stations: 34
  • Route length: 136km



The Thames Tunnel between Newham and Greenwich has been unveiled today: Chancellor unveils Crossrail’s new tunnels under the Thames



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Old June 13th, 2014, 10:09 PM   #10734
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Old June 14th, 2014, 01:04 AM   #10735
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I have been to these Cities too... ALL of which have problems. And honestly... I'd say London is probably best at looking after it's historical buildings. However, what one should remember is that some historical buildings are owned by businesses - and not the Government. This is the same in Paris, NYC, San Fran, Milan, etc etc; thus it is the business' responsibility to look after their own property.

Since the economic downturn for some businessesl; the aesthetics just aren't a hugh priority at the moment. But as the gent above me said, this should soon change.

But still... this sort of situation is still very much in a minority. London is one of the best looking Cities in the world, as are Paris and NYC - all of which have similar problems.
I think we gonna have to agree to disagree on this one.
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I passed through Whitehall, Trafalgar square and the city and a lot of buildings were covered in black soot and damage to the stone work. I just feel that we should have more pride in our appearence. Seeing that it is our capital city
The reason for London's buildings having a sooty appearance is not due to a lack of maintenance and repairs etc., but is due to air pollution, particularly from buses, taxis and trucks and their diesel fumes. London's air is way better than in the past, and this problem is lessening, thanks to clean air acts, the use of cleaner engines in vehicles, etc.

It should also be noted that London's building envelopes are built with London's polluted air in mind, and in fact are resistant in most cases to damage from air pollution, though they do get dirty. Portland stone in particular is barely eroded at all due to air pollution, hence why it is employed on many London buildings, but the cost of stone cutting and carving means only buildings with a large construction budget can use it.
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Old June 14th, 2014, 03:45 PM   #10738
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5 Broadgate - New UBS HQ
Posted above, but I didn't think it was worthy of more than one pic let alone a wide one.

Not the best addition to the Broadgate estate.
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The goods yard looks very promising especially the new park they are creating and the shops at street level. It's good that they stuck to mainly brick given the nature of the area. Build it I say
The park space looks a great addition.

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The reason for London's buildings having a sooty appearance is not due to a lack of maintenance and repairs etc., but is due to air pollution, particularly from buses, taxis and trucks and their diesel fumes. London's air is way better than in the past, and this problem is lessening, thanks to clean air acts, the use of cleaner engines in vehicles, etc.

It should also be noted that London's building envelopes are built with London's polluted air in mind, and in fact are resistant in most cases to damage from air pollution, though they do get dirty. Portland stone in particular is barely eroded at all due to air pollution, hence why it is employed on many London buildings, but the cost of stone cutting and carving means only buildings with a large construction budget can use it.
I pass Whitehall fairly regularly, considering that it's an important vehicular route for West End bound people from inner south London, and I don't recall a Whitehall building looking worse for wear. This is the norm:


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