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Old September 17th, 2014, 10:41 PM   #11361
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Manhattan is 12 miles tip to toe - and 2.5 miles across at Midtown.

Manhattan's skyline stretches the 5 miles between Lower and Midtown Manhattan. For London to have a similar skyline, it would have to stretch all the way from The City to CW.
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Old September 17th, 2014, 10:45 PM   #11362
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I think people get it. The CW skyline will never be as good or as dense as the Manhattan skyline. On the other hand it will rival US cities like Houston, Dallas, Boston and Atlanta.
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Old September 18th, 2014, 08:08 AM   #11363
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I think you underestimate just how large Manhattan is.



...And that's just Midtown alone.
And this is the rest of it!


London may not have as many massive skyscrapers as New York, but it does have amazing quality buildings rising everywhere, each one of them respecting their surroundings and paying close attention to their street level facades. New York may have bigger builings, but London has far better streetscapes!

Now knock off the city vs. city and keep posting updates of those incredible projects! There has got to be 100+ highrise buildings going up across the city!
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Old September 18th, 2014, 09:08 AM   #11364
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This is probably a very broad question, but how does zoning in London work? I have a document here that says a site is suitable for "600 HR/HA". I assume the denominator is hectares, but what does HR stand for? I'm in Chicago so obviously I don't know anything about how things like this fucntion in London.
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Old September 18th, 2014, 11:57 AM   #11365
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This is probably a very broad question, but how does zoning in London work? I have a document here that says a site is suitable for "600 HR/HA". I assume the denominator is hectares, but what does HR stand for? I'm in Chicago so obviously I don't know anything about how things like this fucntion in London.
It's a measure of appropriate residential density, taking into account the surrounding infrastructure and level of urbanisation.

600 HR/HA = 600 habitable rooms per hectare.
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Old September 18th, 2014, 12:08 PM   #11366
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I remember seeing the twins towers from the top of the empire state building in the early 90`s...Was blown away by the vastness and the fact it was so far away! London will never compete with New York in a vertical sense obviously, i wouldn't want it to. But in sheer size and depth London is special i think. Especially as in the next 10 years you'll be able to see canery/wood wharf from a tower cluster in Nine elms or even Croydon.
Keep up the great work on the updates guys, im addicted!
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Old September 18th, 2014, 06:24 PM   #11367
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Its interesting to see how New York has developed over the years. The shots of the skyline shown in various episodes of friends show the progression. Same with london as the city has become taller, there was quite a while when it was just the Norman Foster building near the tower and seeing that area progressing is good.
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Old September 18th, 2014, 09:29 PM   #11368
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London will never compete with New York in a vertical sense obviously, i wouldn't want it to.
Only because of geography, if central London had been an island, it too would have been built vertically on the same scale as NY, but available land meant the easy option of spreading out was taken, keeping everything low rise.

Only now with planning rules creating an artificial legal boundary is London having to embrace vertical living.
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Old September 19th, 2014, 09:20 AM   #11369
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Only because of geography, if central London had been an island, it too would have been built vertically on the same scale as NY, but available land meant the easy option of spreading out was taken, keeping everything low rise.

Only now with planning rules creating an artificial legal boundary is London having to embrace vertical living.
Don't forget the geology.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-22798563.
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Old September 19th, 2014, 12:42 PM   #11370
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Amazing shot of New York there, great variation in the two skylines.

One mostly made of brick, the other, glass.
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Old September 19th, 2014, 01:39 PM   #11371
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Old September 19th, 2014, 02:01 PM   #11372
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London Dock is due to start on site

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Old September 19th, 2014, 03:19 PM   #11373
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Manhattan is 12 miles tip to toe - and 2.5 miles across at Midtown.

Manhattan's skyline stretches the 5 miles between Lower and Midtown Manhattan. For London to have a similar skyline, it would have to stretch all the way from The City to CW.
London and New York couldn't be more different. They both offer totally different but equally brilliant options and urban experiences, which is why they both attract people. Neither should want to be more like the other as it's their current distinctiveness that means that they compete in such an energetic way.
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Old September 19th, 2014, 07:36 PM   #11374
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A summary of ongoing highrise projects in London's E14 district:






E14 - Full Summary of Projects


Useful Links
Canary Wharf Group | The Wharf | Tower Hamlets Council





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Summary of projects currently under construction


Baltimore Tower
150m

Providence Tower
136m

Novotel Canary Wharf
117m

Dollar Bay
109m

Lincoln Plaza
95m

Horizons
81m

London City Island
80m



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Summary of Projects
Isle of Dogs, Canary Wharf, Poplar and Blackwall





South Quay Plaza
183-189 Marsh Wall, London E14

Height: 243m | Floors: 65 | Architect: Foster + Partners | Developer: Berkeley Group

Links: London forum thread | Official website

  • Current status: In Planning





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Hertsmere Tower
2 Hertsmere Road, London E14

Height: 237m | Floors: 75 | Architect: Squire Architects | Developer: Greenland Group

Links: London forum thread

  • Current status: Pre-planning





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Riverside South
Riverside South, Westferry Road, London E14

Height: 236m and 189m | Floors: 45 and 37 | Architect: Richard Rogers | Developer: Canary Wharf Group

Links: London forum thread

  • Current status: Construction on hold





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City Pride
15 Westferry Road, London E14

Height: 233m | Floors: 76 | Architect: Squire & Partners | Developer: Chalegrove Properties

Links: London forum thread

  • Current status: Approved





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Quay House
2 Admirals Way, London E14

Height: 228m | Floors: 67 | Architect: Kohn Pedersen Fox | Developer: Investin

Links: London forum thread

  • Current status: In Planning





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Newfoundland
1 Bank Street, London E14

Height: 220m | Floors: 60 | Architect: Horden Cherry Lee Architects | Developer: Canary Wharf Group

Links: London forum thread | Official website

  • Current status: Site preparation





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North Quay
North Quay, Hertsmere Road, E14

Height: 216m/203m/120m | Floors: 44/38/18 | Architect: Cesar Pelli | Developer: Canary Wharf Group

Links: London forum thread

  • Current status: Approved





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1 Wood Wharf
1 Wood Wharf, London E14

Height: 205 | Floors: 56 | Architect: Herzog & de Meuron | Developer: Canary Wharf Group

Links: London forum thread | Official website

  • Current status: Approved





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Alpha Square
50 Marsh Wall, London E14

Height: approx 190m | Floors: 60 | Architect: Pilbrow & Partners | Developer: Far East Consortium International

Links: London forum thread

  • Current status: Pre-planning





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30 Marsh Wall
30 Marsh Wall, London E14

Height: 185m | Floors: 53 | Architect: 21st Architecture | Developer: Appleby Trust

Links: London forum thread | Official website

  • Current status: In Planning





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Arrowhead Quay
Arrowhead Quay, Marsh Wall, London E14

Height: 183m/170m | Floors: 55/50 | Architect: Glen Howells Architects | Developer: Ballymore

Links: London forum thread

  • Current status: In Planning





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Meridian Gate
199-207 Marsh Wall, London E14

Height: 182m | Floors: 54 | Architect: Glen Make Architects | Developer: Meridian Property Holdings

Links: London forum thread

  • Current status: In Planning





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Millharbour Village
2 Millharbour, London E14

Height: Various, up to 166m | Floors: Various | Developer: Millharbour LLP

Links: Forum thread | Official website

  • Current status: In Planning





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One Park Place
1 Park Place, London E14

Height: 162m | Floors: 32 | Developer: Canary Wharf Group

Links: London forum thread | Official website

  • Current status: In Planning





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225 Marsh Wall
225 Marsh Wall, London E14

Height: 154m | Floors: 47 | Developer: The Angel Group

Links: London forum thread

  • Current status: Pre-Planning





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10 Bank Street
10 Bank Street, London E14

Height: approx 150m | Floors: -- | Architect: -- | Developer: Canary Wharf Group

Links: London forum thread

  • Current status: Pre-planning

Design subject to change:





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Wood Wharf A3
Wood Wharf Wharf, London E14

Height: 150m | Floors: 45 | Architect: Stanton Williams | Developer: Canary Wharf Group

Links: London forum thread | Official website

  • Current status: Approved





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Baltimore Tower
6 Baltimore Wharf, London E14

Height: 150m | Floors: 45 | Architect: Skidmore Owings & Merrill | Developer: Ballymore

Links: London forum thread | Official website

  • Current status: Under Construction





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Providence Tower
Blackwall E14

Height: 136m | Floors: 44 | Architect: SOM | Developer: Ballymore Group

Links: London forum thread | Official website

  • Current status: Under construction





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54 Marsh Wall
54 Marsh Wall, London E14

Height: 130m and 98m | Floors: 39 and 28 | Architect: Rolfe Judd | Developer: Daejan Limited

Links: London forum thread

  • Current status: In Planning





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Helix London
2 Trafalgar Way, London E14

Height: 127m & 108m | Floors: 35 & 29 | Architect: Make | Developer: Essential Living

Links: London forum thread | Official website

  • Current status: Approved





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Blackwall Reach
Blackwall Reach, London E14

Height: Various, up to 127m | Floors: Various | Architect: Various | Developer: Various

Links: London forum thread | Official website

  • Current status: In Planning





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Novotel Canary Wharf
40 Marsh Wall, London E14

Height: 124m | Floors: 39 | Architect: BUJ Architects | Developer: Accor

Links: London forum thread

  • Current status: Site preparation





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Dollar Bay
1-18 Dollar Bay Court, London E14

Height: 109m | Floors: 32 | Architect: Ian Simpson Architects | Developer: Mount Anvil

Links: London forum thread | Official website

  • Current status: Site preparation




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Lincoln Plaza
20 Millharbour, London E14

Height: 95m | Floors: 30 | Developer: Galliard Homes

Links: London forum thread | Official website

  • Current status: Under Construction





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Horizons
Horizons, Prestons Road, London E14

Height: 81m | Floors: 26 | Developer: Telford Homes

Links: London forum thread | Official website

  • Current status: Under Construction





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7 Limeharbour
7 Limeharbour, London E14

Height: 76m | Floors: 23 | Architect: TP Bennett | Developer: Telford Homes

Links: London forum thread

  • Current status: In Planning




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London City Island
Leamouth Peninsula, London E14

Height: Various, up to 80m | Floors: Various | | Developer: Ballymore

Links: London forum thread | Official website

  • Current status: Under Construction




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Poplar Business Park
10 Prestons Road, London E14

Height: 74m/68m/53m | Floors: 21/19/14 | Architect: Barton Willmore | Developer: Workspace Group

Links: London forum thread

  • Current status: Approved


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Old September 19th, 2014, 10:35 PM   #11375
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Superb work, SE9.

I doff my cap.

If all these projects come to fruition (and there will be others too, no doubt), Canary Wharf / Wood Wharf / E14 will become a genuinely world class skyline.
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Old September 19th, 2014, 11:11 PM   #11376
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Tower hamlets, where 50% of all bangladeshis in UK are, I've never been even though I am one of them. Have you guys been and do you like the restaraunts? also nice buildings, are their not height restrictions in Canary Wharf?
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Old September 20th, 2014, 12:30 AM   #11377
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There are height restrictions around Canary Wharf due to its proximity to London City Airport. Closure of the airport, which is being sought in some quarters, would lift these restrictions.

The London Forum Census found that 18 of our 90 forumers live in East London. Of those 18, many live in Tower Hamlets. Of its 254,000 residents, 32% are Bangladeshi as of the 2011 Census.

Concerning its restaurant scene, perhaps the most famous locale is Brick Lane. Well known due to the authentic cuisine on offer. Here's a two-part Al Jazeera special on Brick Lane cuisine: Part 1 | Part 2.
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Old September 20th, 2014, 02:56 AM   #11378
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SE9 are these e14 projects fully financed ?.
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The developers listed don't have a problem in funding these proposals.

Furthermore, considering the price of prime property in London, they all stand to make handsome returns. Take Baltimore Tower: the first 80 residential units were sold for an average of £500,000 each, with 20% paid up-front as a deposit. And that was on one weekend alone, in Singapore alone. Before the tower had even started construction.

If a developer can raise £8,000,000 from deposits alone in just one weekend and just one foreign market, selling apartments in a tower that doesn't yet exist, they have no problem financing them.
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Plans revealed for the Trocadero at Piccadilly: Trocadero to be turned into seven-screen arthouse cinema

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