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Old September 28th, 2014, 03:06 PM   #11441
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I know not every building in a city like london can have inspiring architecture but dont you think it does london a great disservice to build so much of the same boring "london venacular"? I mean blackwall reach , east india dock, lewisham gateway I can think of countless others that are just plain old blocks. Surely it must be of some concern to the skyscraper and architecture lovers of london.
It really concerns me too. Not the fact that there is a vernacular, but the fact that the vernacular is so dull.

The monotony of Georgian townhouses (for example) in London is beautiful, whereas this new 'London vernacular' looks plain and uninspiring. I just wish the design wasn't so prosaic.

Now I'm not saying we need to built neoclassic houses, just modern, 21st century houses that aren't so aesthetically boring. Something like this:



I know that isn't anything spectacular but it is a considerable improvement from the NLV. No flat roofs, and some effort towards design elegance. Very sleek (but of course the renders above are very poor quality). We need to find a way to make modern vernacular architecture beautiful.

On the other hand, nothing built now can be worse than the buildings built in London in the 60s and 70s! We must be grateful for that.

(Sorry if this is the wrong place to post this but I am just replying to his post!)
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Old September 28th, 2014, 05:48 PM   #11442
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Old September 28th, 2014, 06:03 PM   #11443
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I know not every building in a city like london can have inspiring architecture but dont you think it does london a great disservice to build so much of the same boring "london venacular"? I mean blackwall reach , east india dock, lewisham gateway I can think of countless others that are just plain old blocks. Surely it must be of some concern to the skyscraper and architecture lovers of london.
There's forumers that criticise London for having too many 'flamboyant' tower proposals. There's forumers that criticise London for having too many similar 'London vernacular' style proposals.
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Old September 28th, 2014, 08:58 PM   #11444
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so you think that its good design and good for london all this square bland architecture of bricks getting repeated in more than half of the proposals surely se9 you must hope for some more inspiring designs are you really happy with this nlv
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Old September 28th, 2014, 09:17 PM   #11445
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It really concerns me too. Not the fact that there is a vernacular, but the fact that the vernacular is so dull.

The monotony of Georgian townhouses (for example) in London is beautiful, whereas this new 'London vernacular' looks plain and uninspiring. I just wish the design wasn't so prosaic.

Now I'm not saying we need to built neoclassic houses, just modern, 21st century houses that aren't so aesthetically boring. Something like this:



I know that isn't anything spectacular but it is a considerable improvement from the NLV. No flat roofs, and some effort towards design elegance. Very sleek (but of course the renders above are very poor quality). We need to find a way to make modern vernacular architecture beautiful.

On the other hand, nothing built now can be worse than the buildings built in London in the 60s and 70s! We must be grateful for that.

(Sorry if this is the wrong place to post this but I am just replying to his post!)
Those buildings look very Berlin-esque. That style is very elegant.
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Old September 28th, 2014, 09:18 PM   #11446
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so you think that its good design and good for london all this square bland architecture of bricks getting repeated in more than half of the proposals surely se9 you must hope for some more inspiring designs are you really happy with this nlv
Developers like them because they're quick to build and easy to design.
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Old September 28th, 2014, 11:19 PM   #11447
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so you think that its good design and good for london all this square bland architecture of bricks getting repeated in more than half of the proposals surely se9 you must hope for some more inspiring designs are you really happy with this nlv
More than half? That's a grand overstatement.

Let's recap some of the major ongoing developments, which constitute a major share of newbuild residential units in London. Identical architecture or not?


Kidbrooke Village

£1 billion | 4,398 homes | SE9/SE3



City Point - Kidbrooke Village, London by SE9 London, on Flickr


City Point - Kidbrooke Village, London by SE9 London, on Flickr


Blackheath Quarter - Kidbrooke Village, London by SE9 London, on Flickr


City Point - Kidbrooke Village, London by SE9 London, on Flickr


Sutcliffe Park - Eltham, London by SE9 London, on Flickr




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East Village

£1.1 billion | 2,818 homes | E20



East Village by Photos of East Village, 2013 - www.gov.uk/oda, on Flickr


East Village by Photos of East Village, 2013 - www.gov.uk/oda, on Flickr


East Village by Photos of East Village, 2013 - www.gov.uk/oda, on Flickr


East Village by Photos of East Village, 2013 - www.gov.uk/oda, on Flickr




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Royal Arsenal Riverside

£1.2 billion | 3,700 homes | SE18




Royal Arsenal Riverside SE18, London by SE9 London, on Flickr


Royal Arsenal Riverside SE18, London by SE9 London, on Flickr


Royal Arsenal Riverside SE18, London by SE9 London, on Flickr


Royal Arsenal Riverside SE18, London by SE9 London, on Flickr




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King's Cross

£2.5 billion | 2,500 homes | N1C



King's Cross, London by SE9 London, on Flickr


King's Cross, London by SE9 London, on Flickr


King's Cross, London by SE9 London, on Flickr


Pancras Square - King's Cross, London by SE9 London, on Flickr




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Greenwich Peninsula

£5 billion | 10,000 homes | SE10



Construction at Greenwich Peninsula, London by SE9 London, on Flickr


Greenwich Millennium Village, London by SE9 London, on Flickr


Greenwich Millennium Village, London by SE9 London, on Flickr





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Renaissance

£140 million | 788 homes | SE13



Renaissance - Lewisham, London by SE9 London, on Flickr


Renaissance at Loampit Vale - Lewisham SE13 by SE9 London, on Flickr



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South Kilburn

£600 million | 2,400 homes | NW6



South Kilburn (6) by artenovaphotos, on Flickr


South Kilburn (14) by artenovaphotos, on Flickr




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Royal Victoria

-- | +1,000 homes | E16



Royal Victoria - London by SE9 London, on Flickr


Royal Victoria - London by SE9 London, on Flickr




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Nine Elms

£15 billion | 16,000 homes | SW8




Nine Elms Battersea: Riverlight model by EG Focus, on Flickr



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Old September 28th, 2014, 11:20 PM   #11448
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No, I would expect this in London. Quite a lot of their buildings have a sloped roof like that. (Or there will be a lot in the future)
yeah there are a few, like this/these (photo by chest), or lexicon... they're absolutely nowhere near chelsea harbour though. I don't think Miami has red brick power stations tho does it.

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Now I'm not saying we need to built neoclassic houses, just modern, 21st century houses that aren't so aesthetically boring. Something like this:

I know that isn't anything spectacular but it is a considerable improvement from the NLV. No flat roofs, and some effort towards design elegance.
thing is, I agree with your wish for "a bit more" in the NLV, but I personally think those roofs are hideous (70s business park) and the houses look a bit pastiche-y, I'm not entirely sure what of, but something non-native. so I'd prefer the current blander NLV to that - perhaps you'd say the same if I posted my fantasy NLV - which I suppose is exactly how we end up with something bland.
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Old September 29th, 2014, 06:53 PM   #11449
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but there are similar towers in London, so it actually should fit in perfectly. I guess the white color is what makes it similar to Miami - they are surely overusing the brightness slider there.
The last time the Thames was that blue there were dinosaurs drinking from its banks.
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Old September 29th, 2014, 07:22 PM   #11450
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Why do all buildings have a balcony now? Like London isn't even suitable weather for a balcony, right? I mean only summer time, when at least there is 2 weeks of sunshine but for the rest o the year I don't see a use apart from clothes drying.
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Old September 29th, 2014, 08:36 PM   #11451
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Balconies are an excellent way to expand the space of a room. The UK has some of the smallest houses of any country, and even in bad weather, a balcony can make those apartments feel bigger for relatively little change. Especially tower blocks, which have always had balconies.

If anything, balconies are a return to traditional building styles.
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Old September 29th, 2014, 09:33 PM   #11452
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Why do all buildings have a balcony now? Like London isn't even suitable weather for a balcony, right? I mean only summer time, when at least there is 2 weeks of sunshine but for the rest o the year I don't see a use apart from clothes drying.
As above! Also I think you under estimate British weather. 14 days of sunshine? How very generous of you!
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Why do all buildings have a balcony now? Like London isn't even suitable weather for a balcony, right? I mean only summer time, when at least there is 2 weeks of sunshine but for the rest o the year I don't see a use apart from clothes drying.
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Old September 30th, 2014, 12:06 AM   #11456
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Having sex!
You need another person for that, not a balcony

Staying on topic, these apartments (by Ghery?) near the Battersea look slightly out of place.
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Do you not have anyone?
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Old September 30th, 2014, 12:37 AM   #11458
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OK, OK, OK guys, I've got it now!
I mean c'mon guys!!!
I know our weather has bipolar but there are apparently a whole lot of other things you can do!
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Aldwych House Extension | Aldwych WC2

Architect's page: http://www.sheppardrobson.com/archit...wych-house-wc2

Planning application: Westminster [09/02238/FULL]



Project facts
  • Address: 71-91 Aldwych, London WC2
  • Developer: Rowan
  • Architect: Sheppard Robson
  • Cost: £15 million

Plans for a roof extension to Aldwych House have been approved by Westminster Council:

- Building Design: Westminster green light for Sheppard Robson extension

- Architects Journal: Sheppard Robson wins go-ahead for 'bold' £15m rooftop pavilion

- Sheppard Robson: Aldwych House roof top extension wins planning permission




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King's Cross Central | King's Cross N1C

London forum thread: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=505188

Official website: http://www.kingscross.co.uk/



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  • New mixed-use district on formerly disused industrial land, to be complete by 2020
  • Cost: £2.3 billion ($3.8bn)
  • Homes: 2,000
  • Commercial space: 743,000m²
  • Site area: 54 hectares



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