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Old January 23rd, 2015, 04:15 PM   #12641
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After having visited Singapore I've become quite fond of shopping malls. They provide an attractive space where to shop, eat and drink (not to mention free wi-fi).
I visited Edmonton and their mall is the most soul crushing place on Earth. There's a 1:1 scale replica of the Santa Maria in the middle of the food court. I saw a fat kid eating McDonalds on the deck in a pirate hat made out of foam. Nearly had a total mental breakdown from just a few hours in there. I hate malls. They're almost universally awful. I'll take a highstreet over a mall any day of the week.
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Old January 23rd, 2015, 10:31 PM   #12642
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The trouble with all of this is nowhere is 'de-gentrifying'; everything is on the trajectory of upwards, and forcing people who can't afford that further and further out, resulting in a hollowed out centre where only the rich can afford.

Why were these areas like Dalston 1995 cheap in the first place? Because they were a result of being on the wrong side of town, of not being attractive places to live because they had nothing there. Will we ever see a cycle where the industry that left the buzzy East end Docklands of yesteryear causing it to become a backwater, ripe for redevelopment, happen again anywhere in London? Will one day the City and Canary Wharf become derelict areas if the finance industry goes the way of the dockers? Otherwise you're going to get to a point where there is nothing left to gentrify and regenerate, and then what happens?
De gentrification is happening in the Suburbs. Not all of them, but there are plenty that are a shadow of themselves compared to the 1980's. Not just the town centres, but the residential areas, with gardens in disrepair and homes in multiple occupation.
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Old January 23rd, 2015, 10:33 PM   #12643
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100 Bishopsgate | City of London EC2

London forum thread: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=354677

Official website: http://www.100bishopsgate.com/



Project facts
  • Address: 100 Bishopsgate, London EC2
  • Developer: Brookfield
  • Architect: Allies and Morisson
  • Height: 172m
  • Floors: 40



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Old January 24th, 2015, 12:03 AM   #12644
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Again, struck with how much the base reminds me of San Francisco's Transamerica Pyramid.
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Old January 24th, 2015, 02:48 PM   #12645
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West End Project | Camden WC1

London forum thread: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1731321

Official website: http://www.camden.gov.uk/westendproject



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  • Architect: DSDHA Architects
  • Cost: £41 million ($62m)
  • No cars on Tottenham Court Road (8am-7pm)
  • 6 new public spaces
  • Widened pavements

Camden Council has approved the West End Project:

- LCC: West End Project plans approved by Camden Council

- ITV News: Cars and lorries to be banned from Tottenham Court Road

- BBC News: Tottenham Court Road to be 'transformed' in £41m revamp










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Old January 24th, 2015, 03:26 PM   #12646
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You're always whining about change, but London is far more exciting now than it was 10 or 20 years ago. It's cleaner, safer, better paved, better lit, has better nightlife, better shops, better restaurants, and better architecture. Aside from the loss of a handful of old buildings (and I mean literally a handful - nearly all new buildings are replacing something shitty), London is far better in almost every way. Yes property's more expensive than before, but then it's far more desirable now, so what do you expect?
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Old January 24th, 2015, 03:27 PM   #12647
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De gentrification is happening in the Suburbs. Not all of them, but there are plenty that are a shadow of themselves compared to the 1980's. Not just the town centres, but the residential areas, with gardens in disrepair and homes in multiple occupation.
Which suburbs do you have in mind?
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Old January 24th, 2015, 11:51 PM   #12648
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Give it a rest. Why play dumb when you know exactly what I was getting at? Or are my statements inappropriate just because this is supposed to be the positive thread where London is being sold to the world? I mean a lot of these issues have been raised and discussed in the UK section, and are by no means controversial. We can keep this thread all nice and rosy for all I care, but it won't reflect reality and simply there evidently is a need and interest to discuss these matters.
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Old January 25th, 2015, 12:19 AM   #12649
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Give it a rest. Why play dumb when you know exactly what I was getting at? Or are my statements inappropriate just because this is supposed to be the positive thread where London is being sold to the world? I mean a lot of these issues have been raised and discussed in the UK section, and are by no means controversial. We can keep this thread all nice and rosy for all I care, but it won't reflect reality and simply there evidently is a need and interest to discuss these matters.
yawn yawn, blah, blah...

Bricky, please stop inflicting your nonsense on those that visit this thread to try to keep up with immense amount of development going on in London.

Why not stick to the Helsinki thread, im sure you have a large and captive audience over there!
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Old January 25th, 2015, 12:26 AM   #12650
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It's the same old people who come on here criticising everything and anything London. If this city irks you so much, why not try an exciting city forum like bbcwallander suggests, Helsinki ?.
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Old January 25th, 2015, 01:26 AM   #12651
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Some immature responses to fair and reasoned critiscism...
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Old January 25th, 2015, 01:37 AM   #12652
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Let's keep this thread on topic and for its intended purpose (development and construction updates) to avert this type of sideshow.

Whether you think current growth and development is making London a regressing, boring place or an improving, exciting place, may I point forumers to Speakers' Corner for a plethora of related discussions.
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Old January 25th, 2015, 01:40 AM   #12653
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The Tottenham Ct Rd/Gower Street improvements look great, such a change from the 50s and 60s urban highway planning mentality. Returning two way traffic to these major north-south routes will hopefully end the days of these streets being urban racetracks with intermittent traffic lights (at least Gower Street). One assumes this is only possible due to the central London congestion charging.
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Old January 25th, 2015, 02:27 AM   #12654
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Some immature responses to fair and reasoned critiscism...
No just ppl who are fed up with constant whinging, when a point is discussed and rebutted but have to read page after page of the same redundant point.
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Old January 25th, 2015, 04:50 AM   #12655
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I really like that West End Project, it's simple but will be a big face lift.
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Old January 25th, 2015, 02:29 PM   #12656
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No just ppl who are fed up with constant whinging, when a point is discussed and rebutted but have to read page after page of the same redundant point.
Nonsense. We've been here before a million times. A British forumer states x in the UK section. Civilised and educated discussion follows. I state x in the world thread. Which follows then is a torrent of quasi-xenophobic nonsense that has absolutely nothing to do with the topic. I though the residents of globalized, cosmopolitan and tolerant London were above all that. But then again, maybe I'll just add an inspirational quote by Samuel Johnson to my profile and just shut it from now on.

Let's move on.
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Old January 25th, 2015, 02:45 PM   #12657
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Nonsense. We've been here before a million times. A British forumer states x in the UK section. Civilised and educated discussion follows. I state x in the world thread. Which follows then is a torrent of quasi-xenophobic nonsense that has absolutely nothing to do with the topic. I though the residents of globalized, cosmopolitan and tolerant London were above all that. But then again, maybe I'll just add an inspirational quote by Samuel Johnson to my profile and just shut it from now on.

Let's move on.
Theres a reason you only have 377 likes, against a very large 5,748 posts.
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Old January 25th, 2015, 03:17 PM   #12658
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There's people's problem right there, you come on here, give your opinion and people either agree or disagree (I agreed with your "darkside " point) but when someone disagree 's with your view . The childish remarks start, trying to belittle a forumers view, when they won't agree with you. If responding with just words like nonsense etc and accusing people of xenophobia. Then maybe you should keep quiet.

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Old January 25th, 2015, 03:48 PM   #12659
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Theres a reason you only have 377 likes, against a very large 5,748 posts.
well hes been contributing here a lot longer than you. likes have only been available for about 15 months.
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Old January 25th, 2015, 03:57 PM   #12660
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