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Old February 20th, 2015, 11:54 AM   #13101
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I agree, very scrappy designs.
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Old February 20th, 2015, 12:52 PM   #13102
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I'm still not too sure if those Pinnacle designs are legit... if so the City of London Corp needs to REJECT them!
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Old February 20th, 2015, 12:59 PM   #13103
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They're legit but apparently not the finished design, which news suggest will be even shorter.
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Old February 20th, 2015, 04:43 PM   #13104
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They're legit but apparently not the finished design, which news suggest will be even shorter.
Let's hope something better is produced..
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Old February 20th, 2015, 05:17 PM   #13105
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C'mon, you're justifying the unjustifiable.
Have you actually viewed the planning application? If you haven't, then you have no basis by which to comment.

If you have, then it's patently obvious that the window sizes follow a set pattern.
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Old February 20th, 2015, 05:18 PM   #13106
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That's an old working model and not the final design.
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Old February 20th, 2015, 05:19 PM   #13107
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AXA Real Estate acquires 22 Bishopsgate, London EC2
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AXA Real Estate Investment Managers, the leading real estate portfolio and asset manager in Europe, announces that it has exchanged contracts, on behalf of an international consortium of investors, to acquire 22 Bishopsgate, London EC2 (formerly known as The Pinnacle) from Pinnacle No 1 Limited to develop a new building partnering Lipton Rogers Developments.

In the all-equity transaction, AXA Real Estate, acting as development & asset manager, on behalf of the international consortium of investors, has retained Lipton Rogers as developer. The consortium intends to develop a new landmark tower, designed by leading architects PLP, at the heart of the City of London, close to Liverpool Street Station. The new tower will provide over 1 million sqft of prime offices, including retail as well as restaurant and bar space. There will be a public viewing gallery at the top of the building. Pinnacle No 1 Limited will retain an interest in the top floors of the building which will provide a unique leisure offer with separate ground floor access.

A planning application for the new 22 Bishopsgate tower will be submitted within the next few months. Construction is expected to commence by the end of 2015 with completion scheduled for the end of 2018.

AXA Real Estate, on behalf of the investors’ consortium, is advised by JLL and CBRE advised Pinnacle No 1 Limited.

Anne Kavanagh, Global Head of Asset Management & Transactions at AXA Real Estate, commented: “The acquisition of 22 Bishopsgate represents a significant opportunity to purchase a prime office development site at one of the most desirable office locations in the City of London. Our experience of underwriting development opportunities and putting together international investor clubs has been pivotal to bringing a transaction of this size and complexity together. The project has enormous potential and we believe that the combination of AXA Real Estate’s strong track record of development in London and internationally, together with the long term prospects of London as a world leading city and international finance centre, present a compelling investment opportunity.”

Sir Stuart Lipton, Partner of Lipton Rogers, said: “We are now delighted to be partnering with AXA Real Estate having worked on 22 Bishopsgate with PLP Architects and WSP for over three years. We have developed an innovative design for an exceptional office tower with art and character, shaped to respect views of the City and designed to be more than an office building with social amenity spaces, restaurants, bars and retail units as a new vertical City campus reflecting the City’s ever changing consumer base."
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Old February 20th, 2015, 05:25 PM   #13108
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Interested to see what the actual redesign looks like then.
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Old February 20th, 2015, 05:44 PM   #13109
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Have you actually viewed the planning application? If you haven't, then you have no basis by which to comment.

If you have, then it's patently obvious that the window sizes follow a set pattern.
They do, but they're not the problem.
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Old February 20th, 2015, 08:36 PM   #13110
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How old are the designs? Are we talking years here?

In your estimation, how much will they deviate from those designs for the final product? I expected a more value-engineered design once the first one stalled. But I was under the impression it would just be a boxier version of what was already approved. These look to be radically different.
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Old February 20th, 2015, 09:45 PM   #13111
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The window sizes follow a pattern, as opposed to being randomly placed.
It still looks worse than if they were all eurythmic. The bloated tower doesn't help either. Viñoly is really screwing up NYC and London with these bastard developments. Hopefully he doesn't ruin Tokyo, because he actually did something nice there.
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Old February 20th, 2015, 09:52 PM   #13112
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It still looks worse than if they were all eurythmic. The bloated tower doesn't help either. Viñoly is really screwing up NYC and London with these bastard developments. Hopefully he doesn't ruin Tokyo, because he actually did something nice there.
London and New York are too big and varied to be screwed up by any one architect or set of buildings.
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Old February 21st, 2015, 01:40 AM   #13113
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If something that is regarded a face of a city is changed, everything else is shamed.

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P.S. The foreground in the "after" picture is a deception...
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Old February 21st, 2015, 05:40 PM   #13114
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London and New York are too big and varied to be screwed up by any one architect or set of buildings.
Yep, that's it.
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Old February 21st, 2015, 07:00 PM   #13115
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If something that is regarded a face of a city is changed, everything else is shamed.

[IM]http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2565/3789482549_378f9f83bd_b.jpg[/IMG]
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2565/...8f9f83bd_b.jpg

[IM]http://si.wsj.net/public/resources/images/NY-BX086_PARK_P_20120916204354.jpg[/IMG]
http://si.wsj.net/public/resources/i...0916204354.jpg

P.S. The foreground in the "after" picture is a deception...
The old Marble Arch tower is not the face of a city. You literally just described it as ubiquitous.

If anything, the city is improved by the new design, because for better or worse, it's unique, not ubiquitous.
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Old February 21st, 2015, 07:32 PM   #13116
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McAleer & Rushe lands £27m London luxury resi deal

Clivedale Properties has awarded a £27m contract to McAleer & Rushe for 22 luxury apartments on the former central London headquarters of property firm Colliers.

Work will start on site this month at The Mansion development at 9 Marylebone Lane, W1.

The site will include studios, 1- to 3-bedroom apartments and penthouses, a 25-metre pool, gym, spa and treatment rooms, gardens and residents’ lounge.

The 55,400 sq ft residential building will comprise a lower ground, ground, and seven upper floors, with large setbacks incorporating roof terraces, along with two basement levels.

Clivedale is a UK subsidiary of property giant Indiabulls led by chairman Sameer Gehlaut.

Martin Magee, Managing Director McAleer & Rushe Contracts UK, said: “This is a great project to be associated with as it contributes so positively to its environs by enhancing the prestige of this residential neighbourhood.

“Our construction business has made a strong start to the year having recently secured a number of contracts across the hotel, office, student housing and residential sectors – not just in London but across the UK”.
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Old February 21st, 2015, 08:02 PM   #13117
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Vinci HIV research centre project approved

Camden Council in London last night nodded through plans for a seven-storey medical research centre at the site of the Royal Free Hospital car park in Hampstead.

Vinci Construction has the contract to build the £42m Pears Building, which will be home to the University College London Institute of Immunity and Transplantation.

Approval was granted subject to the completion of a S106 legal agreement and a range of planning conditions.

Scientists at the IIT are carrying out research into immune-related conditions such as leukaemia, type 1 diabetes and HIV.

The Hopkins designed Pears Building will allow more patients to have access to ground-breaking medical treatments through clinical trials.

It is being project managed by Buro Four with BDP on board as M&E design consultant.

As well as the IIT, the Pears Building will include patient accommodation, office space for volunteers and a car park.

Construction work is expected to begin in the spring and to finish in 2017.

The money for the new building has been raised by the Royal Free Charity and UCL. An additional £25m will be secured for the appointment of research teams.
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Old February 22nd, 2015, 12:04 AM   #13118
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How old are the designs? Are we talking years here?

In your estimation, how much will they deviate from those designs for the final product? I expected a more value-engineered design once the first one stalled. But I was under the impression it would just be a boxier version of what was already approved. These look to be radically different.
We're not talking more than a year. The final product will be more refined than what we've seen.

The new design was always going to be very different to what was already approved.
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Old February 22nd, 2015, 12:08 AM   #13119
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They do, but they're not the problem.
My statement (which you erroneously dismissed) pertained specifically to the windows.
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Old February 22nd, 2015, 12:17 AM   #13120
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Government backs new London concert hall

The proposal for a world-class concert hall in London has taken on new life since Sir Simon Rattle, its biggest advocate, came to London to conduct a series of concerts last week. The news on Friday that the UK chancellor George Osborne is to fund a feasibility study into the hall has sent the UK’s musical establishment into fresh paroxysms of excitement.

The question now is where it would go. Three main options have been floated: a new building in the City of London, the refurbishment of an existing hall such as the Barbican or the Royal Festival Hall, or an entirely new development elsewhere in the city.
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