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Old March 19th, 2015, 12:24 PM   #13461
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Open Up Project, Royal Opera House | Covent Garden WC2

London forum thread: N/A

Official website: http://www.roh.org.uk/about/open-up



Project facts
  • Address: Royal Opera House, Covent Garden, London WC2
  • Developer: Royal Opera House
  • Architect: Stanton Williams
  • Cost: £37 million ($55m)

Plans for the redevelopment of the Royal Opera House have been approved by Westminster Council:









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Old March 19th, 2015, 12:30 PM   #13462
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Baltimore Tower | Isle of Dogs E14

London forum thread: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...hp?p=105569479

Official website: http://www.baltimorewharf.com/



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  • Address: 30 Limeharbour, London E14
  • Developer: Galliard Developments
  • Architect: Skidmore, Owings and Merrill
  • Height: 150m
  • Floors: 44



Progress at Baltimore Tower, photos by opayek:


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Old March 19th, 2015, 12:58 PM   #13463
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Great scheme in regards to the opera house. I'm glad it got approved.

The Baltimore Tower is looking mighty fine. That cladding is yummy
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Old March 19th, 2015, 01:01 PM   #13464
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The new development surely looks better than the current collection of postwar blocks.
No you're absolutely wrong. The proposed building epitomizes everything wrong with much of London's architecture these days. Disproportionate, disgusting and conflicting choice of materials, schizophrenic, irregular window patterns, and disregard of its surroundings.
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Old March 19th, 2015, 01:12 PM   #13465
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As long as "something is happening", the majority of SSC won't complain. Architecture, integrity and integration, use structure, vitality, urban concepts, all of that is of much too little consideration here, way too often.

Though in this specific case being One Berkeley, the proposal has some potential. It depends on the materials they choose - it'd look horrible clad in bare concrete, it could be expressionist-elegant clad in bricks. Really depends on how it's done.
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Old March 19th, 2015, 01:38 PM   #13466
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As long as "something is happening", the majority of SSC won't complain. Architecture, integrity and integration, use structure, vitality, urban concepts, all of that is of much too little consideration here, way too often.
Patronizing overstated rubbish.
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Old March 19th, 2015, 01:39 PM   #13467
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Clearly you agree with me.

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I'm still in two minds about 3 Pancras square, I like the ground level but those tiny windows and the way the roof is treated - it feels the weakest of the Square.
It definitely isn't the weakest architecture of the Square, or weak architecture at all. It's interesting to see Neo Art Deco. Though I agree the windows and the roof could be structured better. http://i.imgur.com/AST2n96.jpg
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Old March 19th, 2015, 01:50 PM   #13468
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No you're absolutely wrong. The proposed building epitomizes everything wrong with much of London's architecture these days. Disproportionate, disgusting and conflicting choice of materials, schizophrenic, irregular window patterns, and disregard of its surroundings.
This comment is somewhat characteristic of the rhetoric espoused by the anti-development lobby in London.

The One Berkley Square proposal is around the same height as neighbouring blocks, hardly disproportionate. The window patters are certainly not irregular either, they follow a set form. The comment criticising a 'conflicting choice of materials' holds no weight, as the documents detailing the choice of materials haven't yet been uploaded.

This tacit support for stunted forms/bland architecture over artistic expression/development must be resisted in London.
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Old March 19th, 2015, 02:08 PM   #13469
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I agree with Erbse and regentHouse. We are far from desperate in London and we can afford to be patient and demand the very best in architecture and urbanism. How can anyone argue with that point of view? It's not anti-development, it's what people say who love London and want the very best for its future.

Why hurridly throw up crap, when we could build something that will look fantastic, and last. Its called Sustainable Development and all of our planning policies demand it for a reason.
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Old March 19th, 2015, 02:31 PM   #13470
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And particularly in a location like this: it is right opposite the Ritz, it has views of Buckingham Palace and Green Park, and the immediate vicinity commands the highest office rents in the world. I would expect world-leading architecture here.
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Old March 19th, 2015, 02:35 PM   #13471
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I agree with Erbse and regentHouse. We are far from desperate in London and we can afford to be patient and demand the very best in architecture and urbanism. How can anyone argue with that point of view? It's not anti-development, it's what people say who love London and want the very best for its future.

Why hurridly throw up crap, when we could build something that will look fantastic, and last. Its called Sustainable Development and all of our planning policies demand it for a reason.
It's indeed what the anti-development lobby espouse, as each of those sweeping statements are devoid of fact or reason. Nothing about the One Berkeley Street proposal is 'disproportionate' in scale or incorporates 'random windows'. Comments criticising the material use are further without basis, as the materials report is yet to be published! That particular proposal was part of a design contest including several other alternatives, nothing hurried about that process.
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Old March 19th, 2015, 02:45 PM   #13472
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So what is the current proposed replacement for the Pinnacle? Has a final design been revealed yet if they are starting work.
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Old March 19th, 2015, 02:49 PM   #13473
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So what is the current proposed replacement for the Pinnacle? Has a final design been revealed yet if they are starting work.
The planning application is yet to be submitted, the final plans yet to be made public.
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Old March 19th, 2015, 02:57 PM   #13474
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Something in the mould of 3 st pancras square, would be more welcome at one berkeley square. Not this as it's just replacing old tat with new...
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Old March 19th, 2015, 02:58 PM   #13475
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I know they leaked some horrific design recently that went down as well as a Saville joke at a children's party.. but they must have some definitive news at some point this year surely.
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The planning application will be submitted in a few months.
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Old March 19th, 2015, 04:08 PM   #13477
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I know they leaked some horrific design recently that went down as well as a Saville joke at a children's party.. but they must have some definitive news at some point this year surely.

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Old March 19th, 2015, 04:11 PM   #13478
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On a serious note, what SE9 is saying is correct.

...However, personally I don't like the design and think it's a little ugly and once built would already look dated. Not my bag.
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Old March 19th, 2015, 06:07 PM   #13479
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Indeed, there's absolutely nothing wrong with disliking the design.

It's the sweeping, factless statements above that are typical of the anti-development lobby.
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Old March 19th, 2015, 06:19 PM   #13480
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Totally agree.
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