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Old March 24th, 2015, 12:09 PM   #13561
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LSQ London | Leicester Square WC2

London forum thread: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=236014

Official website: http://www.lsqlondon.com/



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  • Address: 48 Leicester Square, London WC2
  • Developer: Linseed Assets
  • Architect: Make Architects
  • Floorspace: 17,300mē
  • Floors: 9

Further renders of the LSQ London scheme, under construction at the western side of Leicester Square:









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Old March 24th, 2015, 12:17 PM   #13562
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Communications House has a problem in that the offices in the roof section are too small and cramped for modern business requirements.
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Old March 24th, 2015, 12:55 PM   #13563
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Not sure what the fuss is about over Odeon West End.. it is a terribly dated cinema with poor facilities, its cramped and most of the building is empty anyway. Walls falling down, cold, damp… eugh.. (I worked for a short time years ago as a projectionist there).

Considering Leicester Square is Europe's film premier capital, a modern and lavish new facility is most welcome there.
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Old March 24th, 2015, 12:56 PM   #13564
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Just in the last few years, RIP:

















Mr Topper's block:



this whole block





These...



all swapped for this:





this corner, note also the building at far right...



...replaced by this, C'MON!




more...














[img]http://i26.************/zxwwh1.jpg[/img]




this:


replaced for these:



this beauty





for this:

[img]http://i30.************/2zewile.jpg[/img]



...and the next to go:










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Old March 24th, 2015, 01:09 PM   #13565
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The first hasn't gone.
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Old March 24th, 2015, 01:22 PM   #13566
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Man, that's harsh. People are telling us that preservationists should stay quiet when it comes to London's development.

The above post, among others, shows that there's not a single reason to stay quiet. The world needs to watch for one of its greatest urban marvels carefully and make sure it preserves as much of its valuable heritage as possible. None of these demolitions can be easily justified. If that's where London aims to become a role model, I say it clearly isn't.
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Old March 24th, 2015, 01:30 PM   #13567
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With all due respect, I don't think anyone who doesn't live in London has the right to demand anything of the city.

The city will do what it needs to, to survive and stay at the forefront of its competition.

New York is a prime example.
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Old March 24th, 2015, 01:40 PM   #13568
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Also in the past few years, scratching the surface:


King's Cross, London by SE9 London, on Flickr








Royal Arsenal Riverside SE18, London by SE9 London, on Flickr

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Old March 24th, 2015, 02:06 PM   #13569
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Sure there are renovations. But the negative record of demolitions is also frightening, especially considering the large swathes of London that were reduced to rubble in war and post-war times already.
Everyone can check this thread for reference: Lost London

Of course it also includes buildings that vanished in pre-war times.

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With all due respect, I don't think anyone who doesn't live in London has the right to demand anything of the city.
London heritage is also human heritage. Just like Paris, Rome, Berlin, Istanbul or Boston heritage is. There's a universal value in many things that needs to be respected. Obviously London shows too little respect for its cultural and historical roots, when heritage buildings can be thrown away like random garbage.
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Old March 24th, 2015, 02:10 PM   #13570
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With all due respect, I don't think anyone who doesn't live in London has the right to demand anything of the city.

The city will do what it needs to, to survive and stay at the forefront of its competition.

New York is a prime example.



My dear man, one day you will look back and recall the London that once was with her virtuous structures built in the name of grace and elegance, to find now a city whose buildings speak only of utility and greed.
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Old March 24th, 2015, 02:12 PM   #13571
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Old March 24th, 2015, 02:33 PM   #13572
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Also in the past few years, scratching the surface:
one thing doesn't justify another, examples of tottenham
court road are especially painful. There are some wonderful examples of Victorian and Edwardian buildings that could have been saved, represent the most glorious period in the history of London globally
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Old March 24th, 2015, 02:57 PM   #13573
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To think what could have been.

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Old March 24th, 2015, 03:43 PM   #13574
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London heritage is also human heritage. Just like Paris, Rome, Berlin, Istanbul or Boston heritage is. There's a universal value in many things that needs to be respected. Obviously London shows too little respect for its cultural and historical roots, when heritage buildings can be thrown away like random garbage.

Coming from a German?

Your ancestors are probably the biggest criminals in European history for destroying "human heritage" architecture across the continent. Indeed, would you like a list of London's glorious old buildings lots to the wars?

I agree that what can be saved, should be saved to a degree.. but as a Londoner, I do not want (touristic nostalgia) from preventing my home from pushing forward and looking to the future.
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Old March 24th, 2015, 03:45 PM   #13575
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one thing doesn't justify another, examples of tottenham
court road are especially painful. There are some wonderful examples of Victorian and Edwardian buildings that could have been saved, represent the most glorious period in the history of London globally
The post was more a counter to the assertion that modern London loathes the past, doesn't preserve and so on. From posts here, one would think that London today does nothing but demolish its old buildings.

Yet a century ago, you could have a single project (eg. Aldwych and Kingsway, 1905) demolishing far more historic structures than is cumulatively done today. That particular project included the demolition of a large swathe of centuries-old central London, including 600 separate properties and streets/passages/courts dating back hundreds of years.

Today there's a multitude of restorations/renovations that take place here, a few of which were posted above. However, they just don't receive post-after-post of reaction in the same way.





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Old March 24th, 2015, 03:48 PM   #13576
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It’s interesting that in the thousands of buildings being redeveloped and or refurbished across London ( a city of 1,572 sq km) the same people post the same pictures of very few older buildings that have been demolished in the last 8-10 years to try and misrepresent that London is under siege and being pulled down on a vast scale when as the pictures show it is the exception rather than the norm as it’s the same old pictures posted again and again.

Anyone would think they have some sort of agenda
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Old March 24th, 2015, 03:48 PM   #13577
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I predict within a generation Londoners will be flocking to Europe (or other beautiful places in the UK like Bath or York) to see old buildings as Australians and Americans do.

They will be heard saying "we don't have stuff like this at home".
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Old March 24th, 2015, 03:53 PM   #13578
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I predict within a generation Londoners will be flocking to Europe (or other beautiful places in the UK like Bath or York) to see old buildings as Australians and Americans do.

They will be heard saying "we don't have stuff like this at home".


I predict that nothing of the sort will happen and sensationalist rubbish like this post are just designed to get a reaction.
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Old March 24th, 2015, 03:58 PM   #13579
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I predict within a generation Londoners will be flocking to Europe (or other beautiful places in the UK like Bath or York) to see old buildings as Australians and Americans do.
They do that anyway! As visitors. Because they live in London, for multitude of reasons, and see it all on a daily basis, and live there for reasons that go beyond the fact that there are old buildings.

The unashamed and confident contrasting mix of old and new is precisely why I love London, and yet, despite visiting Bath and York, would never want to live there. The cities of the future will not be the ones who sit still, nor the ones who built everything out of the ground as quickly as possible, but the ones that take the past and move the best of it to the future along with keeping contemporary with the modern age and its requirements for a living world-class city. London is doing this, and it's doing it extremely well.
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Old March 24th, 2015, 03:58 PM   #13580
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My dear man, one day you will look back and recall the London that once was with her virtuous structures built in the name of grace and elegance, to find now a city whose buildings speak only of utility and greed.
This is hilarious. Do you know anything about the history of London? If you cut it in half, London actually has the words utility and greed running right through the middle.

Many of the buildings people are lamenting the destruction of, were - and are - utilitarian and greedy by nature. Their supposed elegance is a result of time, not design. Their features have become representative of a more graceful past simply because they're wallpaper, backdrops to the city's more beautiful landmarks.

Furthermore, a lot of these 'historical relics' are not beautiful, or innovative, or full of character or anything like that. They're merely drab monstrosities propped up by tradition and nostalgia. Making the city grey and depressing, which I guess some people have confused for elegance.
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