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Zenith · May 3rd, 2006, 02:05 PM

yes a ridiculous hulking mall instead of lots of beautiful classical/unique buildings with varying roof heights and roof gardens, fountains etc. Disgustiing. Napolean called us a nation of shopkeepers, now we just ape America.

Skyman · May 3rd, 2006, 02:18 PM

Nice work guys, these renders are pretty cool...

Phobos · May 3rd, 2006, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by zenith

yes a ridiculous hulking mall instead of lots of beautiful classical/unique buildings with varying roof heights and roof gardens, fountains etc. Disgustiing. Napolean called us a nation of shopkeepers, now we just ape America.

Totally agreed.I thought London has learned the lesson after Euston Station and other ones,but It seems this wonderful city is becoming more and more an America wannabe(at least architecturally).I'm sorry to say that,but It's my opinion.

Newcastle Guy · May 3rd, 2006, 11:06 PM

America wannabe? No thanks.

london lad · May 4th, 2006, 05:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Zenith

Originally Posted by zenith
yes a ridiculous hulking mall instead of lots of beautiful classical/unique buildings with varying roof heights and roof gardens, fountains etc. Disgustiing. Napolean called us a nation of shopkeepers, now we just ape America.

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Originally Posted by Phobos

Totally agreed.I thought London has learned the lesson after Euston Station and other ones,but It seems this wonderful city is becoming more and more an America wannabe(at least architecturally).I'm sorry to say that,but It's my opinion.

While I quite like the brown building which One new change (which incidently does have a roof garden) is replacing its not an exceptional piece of architecture. In fact most of the new architecute , including skyscrapers in London are by & large replacing post war office buildings with no architectural merit & are no longer suitable for modern office enviroments. No body is copying America or anyone else- Worldwide the trend is for glass & steel offices, with a great deal designed by British architects both here & abroad.

To hark back to the days of classical architecture that the Victorians were so good at is just not desirable these days mainly as modern versions of classical buildings end up looking like paternoster square etc- A poor imitation. London has plenty of classical architecture & will not anytime soon see them replaced by modern glass & steel. Whats happening in London , as I mentioned is alot of redeveloping of post war buildings, nothing more. London is the unique city it is today because of hte fact that it is not stuck in the past & constantly evolving.

London · May 4th, 2006, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Phobos

Totally agreed.I thought London has learned the lesson after Euston Station and other ones,but It seems this wonderful city is becoming more and more an America wannabe(at least architecturally).I'm sorry to say that,but It's my opinion.

We welcome opinions. But when you compare London's glass and steel architecture with new yorks concrete architecture, your on another planet

Euston is probably the only glass and steel city of skyscrapers in america. But again, when you compre glass and steel boxes with glass and steel cheesegraters, helter-skelters or shards of glass, your on another planet further away than the previous planet you were on. Infact, so far away, the planet hasnt been discovered yet

But if you were talking about canary wharf and euston, or canary wharf and new yorks financial district, then i could partially agree with you. There are slight similarities. But saying London is a wannabe is just a completely unjustified and uneducated answer to London's forever rising might. Is it envy?

london lad · May 4th, 2006, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by London

We welcome opinions. But when you compare London's glass and steel architecture with new yorks concrete architecture, your on another planet

Euston is probably the only glass and steel city of skyscrapers in america. But again, when you compre glass and steel boxes with glass and steel cheesegraters, helter-skelters or shards of glass, your on another planet further away than the previous planet you were on. Infact, so far away, the planet hasnt been discovered yet

But if you were talking about canary wharf and euston, or canary wharf and new yorks financial district, then i could partially agree with you. There are slight similarities. But saying London is a wannabe is just a completely unjustified and uneducated answer to London's forever rising might. Is it envy?

You do realise Phobos means Euston railway station & not Houston the city in the USA or have you got your wires crossed?!??

Newcastle Guy · May 4th, 2006, 06:14 PM

Some comparisons for you all

Some New York buildings with some London buildings, Including the cancelled Millenium tower.

Newcastle Guy · May 4th, 2006, 06:15 PM

It looks like London could be close to getting a building of ESB proportions, hopefully there will be something like that pop up in the next decade

Zenith · May 5th, 2006, 03:15 PM

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No body is copying America or anyone else- Worldwide the trend is for glass & steel offices, with a great deal designed by British architects both here & abroad.

I was talking about malls myself, nothing more.

***wjfox*** · May 5th, 2006, 10:04 PM

News of a possible 45-storey tower for East India Dock Road, near Canary Wharf:-

http://www.skyscrapernews.com/news.php?ref=593

***wjfox*** · May 6th, 2006, 03:38 PM

Just spent the last hour editing my summary on page 1 of this thread - all of the info should now be fully up-to-date.

Notice how long the list of 'Other projects' at the end is getting!

Newcastle Guy · May 6th, 2006, 04:21 PM

Good work WJ!

That new development looks OK, pretty tall, and as it is close to Elektron it will start it's own mini residential cluster close to CW

ferge · May 6th, 2006, 11:06 PM

I'm hoping its just a poor quality rendering, the shapes and mass look okay, just looks a bit cheap.. but, like I said.. I hope thats just down to lazy media, and not lazy design

andysimo123 · May 7th, 2006, 12:22 AM

Compared to other buildings going up and others planned, that looks abit poor.

Newcastle Guy · May 7th, 2006, 02:04 PM

It's a change to all the steel and glass

L-er · May 7th, 2006, 02:52 PM

It's OK.

***wjfox*** · May 8th, 2006, 09:48 PM

Interesting project for Leadenhall Street - http://www.black-architecture.com/

Jack Rabbit Slim · May 9th, 2006, 02:51 AM

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Interesting project for Leadenhall Street - http://www.black-architecture.com/

Hmm, looks pretty interesting. Any idea of the height, chance of construction etc etc??

Oh, and what is there curently??

Modernization · May 9th, 2006, 04:25 AM

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Originally Posted by andysimo123

Compared to other buildings going up and others planned, that looks abit poor.

London is still a flat city and no highrise. Most Europeans cities are like that. THey don't like skyscrapers.

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May 3rd, 2006, 02:05 PM	#121
Zenith The hawk envies me Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Taunton Posts: 6,288 Likes (Received): 171	yes a ridiculous hulking mall instead of lots of beautiful classical/unique buildings with varying roof heights and roof gardens, fountains etc. Disgustiing. Napolean called us a nation of shopkeepers, now we just ape America.

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Skyman Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Los Angeles, CA UNITED STATES Posts: 5,200 Likes (Received): 0	Nice work guys, these renders are pretty cool...

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Newcastle Guy Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Portsmouth Posts: 8,955 Likes (Received): 18	America wannabe? No thanks.

May 4th, 2006, 06:14 PM	#128
Newcastle Guy Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Portsmouth Posts: 8,955 Likes (Received): 18	Some comparisons for you all Some New York buildings with some London buildings, Including the cancelled Millenium tower.

May 4th, 2006, 06:15 PM	#129
Newcastle Guy Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Portsmouth Posts: 8,955 Likes (Received): 18	It looks like London could be close to getting a building of ESB proportions, hopefully there will be something like that pop up in the next decade

May 6th, 2006, 03:38 PM	#132
*wjfox* Moderator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: L O N D O N Posts: 36,166 Likes (Received): 922	Just spent the last hour editing my summary on page 1 of this thread - all of the info should now be fully up-to-date. Notice how long the list of 'Other projects' at the end is getting!

May 6th, 2006, 04:21 PM	#133
Newcastle Guy Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Portsmouth Posts: 8,955 Likes (Received): 18	Good work WJ! That new development looks OK, pretty tall, and as it is close to Elektron it will start it's own mini residential cluster close to CW

May 6th, 2006, 11:06 PM	#134
ferge Like 'Berg' Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Wigan Posts: 5,424 Likes (Received): 85	I'm hoping its just a poor quality rendering, the shapes and mass look okay, just looks a bit cheap.. but, like I said.. I hope thats just down to lazy media, and not lazy design

May 7th, 2006, 12:22 AM	#135
andysimo123 wind-up merchant Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 15,877 Likes (Received): 8	Compared to other buildings going up and others planned, that looks abit poor.

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Newcastle Guy Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Portsmouth Posts: 8,955 Likes (Received): 18	It's a change to all the steel and glass

May 7th, 2006, 02:52 PM	#137
L-er ... Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Ieper(Ypres) Posts: 1,309 Likes (Received): 0	It's OK.

May 8th, 2006, 09:48 PM	#138
*wjfox* Moderator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: L O N D O N Posts: 36,166 Likes (Received): 922	Interesting project for Leadenhall Street - http://www.black-architecture.com/