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Old July 17th, 2015, 07:16 PM   #14821
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To elaborate somewhat on this post...

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... the majority of high profile projects in London today are being built on what was disused or derelict sites:
  • the Docklands area (Canary Wharf, Blackwall, Royal Docks etc) was a derelict, former port.
  • Nine Elms was full of warehouses and a derelict power station.
  • Greenwich Peninsula was a derelict, former gasworks.
  • King's Cross Central was a derelict railway lands.
  • Stratford City was a derelict wasteland.
  • Old Oak Common is semi-derelict, industrial land.
  • The Goodsyard London is a derelict goods yard.
  • Blossom Street is a collection of mostly derelict buildings.

The list goes on.
... below are a few examples of ongoing transformations in London.
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Old July 17th, 2015, 07:17 PM   #14822
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King's Cross
Camden | Islington


2007 - railway lands, left derelict for decades.


The Granary building by Andrew Sides, on Flickr


Western Transit Shed - north face by Andrew Sides, on Flickr


Shops to go here by Andrew Sides, on Flickr


To the north by Andrew Sides, on Flickr




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Present - construction ongoing.


King's Cross, London by SE9, on Flickr


King's Cross, London by SE9, on Flickr


King's Cross, London by SE9, on Flickr


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Old July 17th, 2015, 07:18 PM   #14823
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Just saw De bottons reactionary and manipulative video, what nonsense! This sort of psuedo humanist philosophical rubbish is particularly offensive as he sells this simplistic nonsense so he can afford to live in a nice georgian terrace. Growing up in london through the 70s and 80s would give you a true perspective on the vast improvement that has and is taking place.
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I'd rather take these things on a case by case basis. The Shard, Gherkin, Leadenhall Building are all superb additions. The Walkie Talkie is an ugly sore thumb ruining views, especially looking West towards Tower Bridge. You can't be fundamentalist about this sort of thing; saying tall buildings are inherently a good or a bad thing is kind of ridiculous.

The only thing I would say about skyscrapers is that you can't hide a bad one, however.
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Old July 17th, 2015, 07:19 PM   #14824
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Docklands
Tower Hamlets | Newham


1986 - former port, many square kilometres of derelict land












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Present - construction ongoing.


Canary Wharf, London by SE9, on Flickr


Crossrail Place - Canary Wharf, London by SE9, on Flickr


Emirates Air Line - Royal Victoria Dock, London by SE9, on Flickr


Royal Victoria, London by SE9, on Flickr






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Old July 17th, 2015, 07:23 PM   #14825
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Kidbrooke Village
Greenwich


2009 - large, notorious and decaying public housing complex (council estate)


Ferrier Estate, London by SE9, on Flickr


Ferrier Estate, London by SE9, on Flickr


Ferrier Estate, London by SE9, on Flickr





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Present - construction ongoing.


City Point - Kidbrooke Village, London by SE9, on Flickr


Meridian Gate - Kidbrooke Village, London by SE9, on Flickr


Blackheath Quarter - Kidbrooke Village, London by SE9, on Flickr


Blackheath Quarter - Kidbrooke Village, London by SE9, on Flickr







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Old July 17th, 2015, 08:09 PM   #14826
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Nine Elms
Wandsworth | Lambeth


2009 - largely warehouses, depots and a derelict power station


New Covent Garden Market by EG Focus, on Flickr




T & W Farmiloe Ltd by Sarflondondunc, on Flickr


Battersea Power Station from Cringle Street by Ian Davies, on Flickr




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Present - construction ongoing.


R0013380 by Alex, on Flickr


R0013379 by Alex, on Flickr


Nine Elms from North Bank by Eugene Regis, on Flickr









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Old July 17th, 2015, 08:43 PM   #14827
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Stratford City
Newham


2006 - very large swathe of derelict, contaminated land


Untitled by get down, on Flickr


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Public Path, City Mill River by Pad Green, on Flickr




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Present - construction ongoing.


Stadium View by P-Zilla, on Flickr




East Village by Olympic Delivery Authority - East Village, on Flickr


London Aquatics Centre by Davoud D., on Flickr







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Old July 17th, 2015, 09:14 PM   #14828
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What a change. Unbelievable.
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Old July 17th, 2015, 10:16 PM   #14829
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SE9, I love you.
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Old July 17th, 2015, 10:22 PM   #14830
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Love London, I'm a mere messenger
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Old July 17th, 2015, 10:23 PM   #14831
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Greenwich Peninsula
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1983 - site of decommissioned gas works



- Decades later, the Peninsula had been decontaminated but the bulk of it remained undeveloped, apart from the Millennium Dome (the O2) -


The Aliens Have Landed by captainzep, on Flickr


Riverside,Greenwich Peninsula by Alex Mcilhiney, on Flickr


Mist 1 by Alex Mcilhiney, on Flickr




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Greenwich Peninsula, London by SE9, on Flickr


Peninsula Square - Greenwich Peninsula, London by SE9, on Flickr


Emirates Air Line - Greenwich Peninsula, London by SE9, on Flickr


Lower Riverside - Greenwich Peninsula, London by SE9, on Flickr







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Old July 17th, 2015, 11:55 PM   #14832
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I'd rather take these things on a case by case basis. The Shard, Gherkin, Leadenhall Building are all superb additions. The Walkie Talkie is an ugly sore thumb ruining views, especially looking West towards Tower Bridge. You can't be fundamentalist about this sort of thing; saying tall buildings are inherently a good or a bad thing is kind of ridiculous.

The only thing I would say about skyscrapers is that you can't hide a bad one, however.
I disagree... half of Manhattan's skyscrapers are anodyne/bland and yet no-one cares because the skyline is so dense that the better ones distract you from them, and together they create a really special environment. I have confidence that once the City skyline thickens, and the Walkie Talkie seems less incongruous, nobody will complain about it anymore. It will simply contribute to the density which is always an important factor in any skyline.
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Old July 18th, 2015, 12:18 AM   #14833
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Game, set, and match to SE9.

Opulentus, you have been politely corrected several times now, but if you're claiming that London's recent surge of new development has come at the expense of Georgian squares or grand Victoriana, then you simply don't know London. You don't know where the projects are on the map. You don't know what existed on those sites before. You don't know how the developments relate to the city as a whole.
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Old July 18th, 2015, 01:23 AM   #14834
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London looking like "Dubai or Shanghai", in Google Maps - Street view... Or not.

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Old July 18th, 2015, 03:09 AM   #14835
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Really amazing how London has changed! The Olympics really made a difference for that area too! Really impressive!
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Old July 18th, 2015, 03:16 AM   #14836
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The level of change in Stratford was perhaps summarised best by a former resident, posted a couple of months ago in this thread:

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I know the feeling, I used to live in Stratford about 18 years ago, I went back for the first time last year and did not recognise anything (which was all good because it wasn't a nice place when I lived there). It is amazing how large chunks of London are changing for the better!!!

and on a side note that pedestrian tunnel for crossrail looks like a design striaght out of a sci-fi video game! Very awesome
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Old July 18th, 2015, 07:12 AM   #14837
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I'd rather take these things on a case by case basis. The Shard, Gherkin, Leadenhall Building are all superb additions. The Walkie Talkie is an ugly sore thumb ruining views, especially looking West towards Tower Bridge. You can't be fundamentalist about this sort of thing; saying tall buildings are inherently a good or a bad thing is kind of ridiculous.

The only thing I would say about skyscrapers is that you can't hide a bad one, however.
I couldn't be less fundamentalist about architecture unless its about it being good.
I would have loved pater noster square next to st Pauls to have been the quinlin Terrys scheme and for there to have been reconstruction of pre war london as was done in Poland and Germany. But as you can see from SE9s pictorial evidence London is improving vast areas and adding some depth and excitement to the very drab post war skyline. I don't know how anyone couldn't be impressed?
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The funny thing is, despite in the main most of these towers do look good, very few Londoners can afford to live in them. That's a much bigger issue to me than the discussion that has been going on. What's the point of a having a nice looking city if you can't afford to live there?
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Old July 18th, 2015, 09:12 AM   #14839
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The funny thing is, despite in the main most of these towers do look good, very few Londoners can afford to live in them. That's a much bigger issue to me than the discussion that has been going on. What's the point of a having a nice looking city if you can't afford to live there?
Towers constitute a small amount of the total number of residential units being built in London.
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Old July 18th, 2015, 10:29 AM   #14840
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Top notch posts by SE9, perfect example of how to redevelop brown field sites
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