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Old August 15th, 2015, 03:22 AM   #15121
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Docklands was a wasteland with the Port Of London having moved long before to Tilbury.
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Old August 15th, 2015, 07:18 AM   #15122
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What exactly was in the current area of the Canary Wharf before? And this are generally... It looks amazing now though!
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Old August 15th, 2015, 11:18 AM   #15123
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Old August 15th, 2015, 11:35 AM   #15124
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Indeed; we're experiencing the adverse affects of globalisation.

Yes, how anyone can prefer it now to this Dickensian ideal is beyond me





(I'm hopping Stravinsky will like this post but he only likes fantasy posts on London so not counting on it)
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Old August 15th, 2015, 01:31 PM   #15125
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I tend to like the transition from industrial to post-industrial cities, and Canary Wharf is one of the best examples of setting up a business district out of no man's land.

What still is missing is a bit of life, i.e. residences for people to live and animate the area, but even this issue is being addressed now.

The prevalence of pops in the area is a bit sad and will remain unaddressed, but I guess it's the price to pay for such a large redevelopment, and may have a role to play, even though I'd have prefered for a limited time.

The loss of character of London is another thing.
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Old August 15th, 2015, 01:43 PM   #15126
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Yes, how anyone can prefer it now to this Dickensian ideal is beyond me (I'm hopping Stravinsky will like this post but he only likes fantasy posts on London so not counting on it)
Ironically that looks pretty dedicated to globalisation to me?
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Old August 15th, 2015, 03:56 PM   #15127
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I was referring to the fact that it was compared to the average 'middle-sized American city'. The rest explains itself.
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Old August 15th, 2015, 06:03 PM   #15128
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I was referring to the fact that it was compared to the average 'middle-sized American city'. The rest explains itself.
I think you're being a bit disingenuous - you used the word 'adverse'. Your perpetual posts about the terrible loss new projects bring to London, as though time and again valuable historic buildings are being razed to make way for the terrible new, suggests that you don't really know London very well.
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Old August 15th, 2015, 11:01 PM   #15129
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Providence Tower | Blackwall E14

London forum thread: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=395444

Official website: http://www.providencetower.com/


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  • Address: Providence Tower, Fairmont Avenue, London E14
  • London borough: Tower Hamlets
  • Developer: Ballymore Group
  • Architect: SOM
  • Height: 136m
  • Floors: 44



The Pinnacle of the Blackwall cluster is nearing completion , thanks opayek for the amazing photos !

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Old August 15th, 2015, 11:05 PM   #15130
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Baltimore Tower | Isle of Dogs E14

London forum thread: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...hp?p=105569479

Official website: http://www.baltimorewharf.com/


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  • Address: 30 Limeharbour, London E14
  • Borough: Tower Hamlets
  • Developer: Galliard Developments
  • Architect: Skidmore, Owings and Merrill
  • Height: 150m
  • Floors: 44



The substructure (floors) are rising at Baltimore Tower.

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Old August 15th, 2015, 11:05 PM   #15131
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Dollar Bay | Isle of Dogs E14

London forum thread: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=934424

Official website: http://www.dollarbay.co.uk/


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  • Address: 1-18 Dollar Bay Court, London, E14
  • London borough: Tower Hamlets
  • Developer: Citystyle Homes and Mount Anvil
  • Architect: Ian Simpson Architects
  • Height: 109m
  • Floors: 32



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core almost halfway now..

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Old August 15th, 2015, 11:07 PM   #15132
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The Monument Building | City of London EC3

London forum thread: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=474129

Official website: http://themonumentbuilding.com/



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  • Address: 11-19 Monument Street, London EC3
  • Developer: Skanska
  • Architect: Make Architects
  • Floors: 9
  • Office space: 7,896m²



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Old August 15th, 2015, 11:36 PM   #15133
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Blake Tower (Former YCMA Fann Street) | Barbican , EC2

London forum thread: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...1789308&page=2

Official website: https://www.redrow.co.uk/london/deve...pment-location


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A remodelling of the interiors and layout with slight external modifications of the Grade II listed structure.
  • Address: 2 Fann Street London EC2Y 8BR
  • London borough: City Of London Corporation
  • Developer: Redrow London
  • Floors: 16



Scaffolding on the rise

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Old August 15th, 2015, 11:46 PM   #15134
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Glasshouse Gardens | Stratford E20

London forum thread: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=332673

Official website: http://ghgstratford.com/


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  • Address: Glasshouse Gardens, Anthem Way, London E20
  • Developer: Lend Lease
  • Architect: Allies and Morrison
  • Floors: 30 | 17
  • Homes: 330



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Old August 15th, 2015, 11:48 PM   #15135
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Canary Wharf may resemble some mid-sized US city from afar, but don't forget it's just one of 6 clusters. The main cluster (The City) is actually
less highrise but much, much more dense, cramming in 600,000 workers per sq mile by day, the vast majority in shorter buildings. The midrise
density and winding streets packed with 50,000 historical buildings makes London incomparable to any US city, it's a whole different template.
-It's not so much about the tall buildings but the way they interact with the existing built environment; the city has 14 protected 'viewing corridors'
stretching across the capital to the 5 UNESCO Heritage Sites , and cutting swathes of very limited airspace to force the highrises to think out of the
box, and to cater to the streets rather than the skies.

If London had no sightlines, and clumped all its clusters together it would start to look like this:



but in reality it divides up it's financial centres due to land prices and heritage zones:



old pic, I know, but gives you an idea of the setting - it's all about what's below the skyscrapers that defines it's CBDs different from the rest.
The area below still hides 120 churches, 87 of them over 350 years old, a castle, cathedral, Roman wall (and temple), 2 medieval guildhalls
and 5 historic markets -despite being purely a financial district. It has 400 year old pubs, 500 year old shops and 850 year old churches:


www.michaelmolloy.co.uk

zoom on any one building, and you start to see the intricacy all around:


www.michaelmolloy.co.uk


from afar it all looks modern:



but on closer inspection it really isnt:




With streets still drawn out by the paths of ancient cows to their watering holes, over 2000 years ago:




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From street level is where it's all designed to be viewed from, unlike everywhere else (which is pretty much giant architect's/
helicopter view), and the difference much more obvious:

















[img]http://cache3.asset-cache.net/gc/146369285-england-london-tower-bridge-from-more-london-***********.jpg?v=1&c=IWSAsset&k=2&d=4ntii8cdQ%2FgR994gfElGJ8unWXi8LqWZKjZnGnnS9TVW5o0bbNAwq1r7C5%2Bdppxa[/img]

London really has a very unique CBD style, simultaneously the oldest and newest areas of the city:



...where one can leave the glass towers and immediately enter medieval alleys


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Anyhoo, sorry for the tangent, Just saying
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Old August 16th, 2015, 01:17 AM   #15136
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I think you're being a bit disingenuous - you used the word 'adverse'. Your perpetual posts about the terrible loss new projects bring to London, as though time and again valuable historic buildings are being razed to make way for the terrible new, suggests that you don't really know London very well.
I think it is adverse. There is little in these new projects which has any distinguishable style or cultural-relevance. They are, as I said earlier, the off-spring of our increasingly globalised world. In the not-too-distant future, I expect that we'll be able to travel wherever, whenever and see the more or less same type of structure replicated over and over again. Where is the fun, the intrigue or the point of that? I hope I'm wrong.
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Old August 16th, 2015, 04:11 AM   #15137
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Good to see the now named Blake Tower get a new lease of life. According to this article the developer aims to stay true to the original mid-century ethos. Aficionados of Brutalism might find the concrete wall in each flat a plus.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/luxury/pr...-barbican.html
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Old August 16th, 2015, 01:46 PM   #15138
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I think it is adverse. There is little in these new projects which has any distinguishable style or cultural-relevance. They are, as I said earlier, the off-spring of our increasingly globalised world. In the not-too-distant future, I expect that we'll be able to travel wherever, whenever and see the more or less same type of structure replicated over and over again. Where is the fun, the intrigue or the point of that? I hope I'm wrong.
You act as if what's happening in London is happening in every other city in the world... it's not.
Besides, many of London's heritage buildings were built to imitate styles popular on the continent, and that's the way architecture has always worked; styles come and go. The context and circumstances surrounding a building's construction will only be remembered for so long... after a certain period of time all that counts is the aesthetic value of the building, and the bottom line is: you don't like the look of these modern buildings, but many people do.
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Anyhoo, sorry for the tangent, Just saying
These small buildings in the foreground are out of place in the CBD, should be pulled down, and replaced with skyscrapers.
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