Calgary Developments

[thinner911]

Is that thing for real, or just a pipe dream?

[neilio]

Originally Posted by JBinCalgary

heres this thing.

holy crap...what the hell is this?! Is this real...im finding it very hard to believe if it is!

[josh white]

I would pretty much dismiss it until we hear something more concrete. Consensus on SSP is that it is a joke or some sort. Certainly strange.

[Boris550]

It makes me laugh because it is so ridiculous.

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

[neilio]

ok, ive looked at the site...worthing.ca
So i guess its not a joke, but...you would think they would post a little more than a picture with dick all for info on it!
And since its mixed use it will most likely use a residential floor height meaning at 80 story's it would most likely still be shorter then Encana (saphire tower in Toronto was proposed at 94 story's and was still shorter then trump (roof hight).

Since Trump is 72 story's and 1066 feet, 325m (with spire), we can almost be gaurenteed Encana will go over 1000 feet roof height...and if they cheat with a spire like Trump then it would easily be over 1100 feet!

[Rhino]

yeah , I went there and it was some guys web site .
from ottawa

[cmd uw]

Originally Posted by neilio

holy crap...what the hell is this?! Is this real...im finding it very hard to believe if it is!

Well, sorry to bust anyones bubble, but the company that is proposing this (Worthington) has experiences some issues here in Edmonton. These issues include not paying contractors, selling off assets to increase cash flow, etc.

[furrycanuck]

You're not bursting anyone's bubble. Nobody is taking it seriously.

[ltsowiak]

My question is when can we expect some sort of official drawing or design from the Fosters people on Encana? What kind of timeline are we looking at?

[Boris550]

Originally Posted by ltsowiak

My question is when can we expect some sort of official drawing or design from the Fosters people on Encana? What kind of timeline are we looking at?

Sometime in the next two months.

[ltsowiak]

Is that a guess, or is that for sure?

[Boris550]

Originally Posted by ltsowiak

Is that a guess, or is that for sure?

More or less for sure. The tentative release date is June 21st, but it could come before or after that.

[Bertez]

There are some really great projects

[Boris550]

Project for the Beltline, previously nicknamed the "Twin Sisters"

Montreux


For more on this project as well as others, see this thread:
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=100921

[marek bielski]

boris, that is a great SSP link. I was wondering about the type of residential buildings more prevalent in Calgary: are developments more geared towards condo/urban lifestyle or is it more single homes in the suburbs? Since we never hear about the latter, it is fair to assume that Calgary is also booming outwards and not just upwards?

[Boris550]

Originally Posted by marek bielski

boris, that is a great SSP link. I was wondering about the type of residential buildings more prevalent in Calgary: are developments more geared towards condo/urban lifestyle or is it more single homes in the suburbs? Since we never hear about the latter, it is fair to assume that Calgary is also booming outwards and not just upwards?

Right now, the split is 60% single-family and 40% multi-family. This split is actually quite visible in newer suburbs, which are a mix of traditional single family (80's, 90's) townhouses, and 3-6 storey condos. In the innercity you get mostly condos but there are some infill single-family homes in places like West Kensington.

EDIT: I guess you are right about Calgary also booming outwards, however there are a few things to take into consideration: 1. Suburban density standards have been raised drastically throughout Bronconnier's term as mayor; 2. Master-planned communities such as Mackenzie Towne are becoming very popular; 3. Condo living has really taken off now and downtown developments are growing rapidly; 4. Like all areas of Alberta, shortages of labour are quite prevalent in the construction industry, and it is impossible for any projects to go ahead at a faster pace than they already are, including suburban developments.

[WinnipegPatriot]

Not bad....the balconies give the buildings a chunky look, while I prefer sleek, but I guess they are part of marketing to a percentage of buyers who want a balcony.

Will the "twin" mentality ever cease? I suppose in the beltline area, building up the density is preferred right now, but I would like to see single condo towers in the 60 storey range.

[Boris550]

Originally Posted by WinnipegPatriot

Will the "twin" mentality ever cease? I suppose in the beltline area, building up the density is preferred right now, but I would like to see single condo towers in the 60 storey range.

Maybe if the condo boom is seen as undergoing stable growth (not boom-bust) then the mentality will change. It is a practical thing for companies to develop in twins and triplets though, because it is a lot safer to market and build a bunch of smaller towers than one large one. Just look at the immense trouble Trump Tower is undergoing in Toronto.

There are also density restrictions in the Beltline that any taller towers can work around through various boosts (preserving historic buildings, contributing to the public realm etc.)

EDIT: BTW, it looks like Arriva III will have it's height increased, possibly as high as 57 or 58 storeys.

[ltsowiak]

Wow! The Twin Sisters took my breath away.

For me the development of the downtown core and innercity areas is going nicely and it's exciting to imagine what it'll be like in 10 years from now. I have a comment though... Unfortunately some of the most beautiful lands around the innercity core have the most hideous structures on them. I'm referring to (forgive me if my description of the area is wrong; I moved away from there over 15 years ago) the "packers" section is it??-- the southeastern area where all the industrial manufacturing buildings are. When was the last time you have driven through there? It is the ugliest, most depressing site in all of Calgary, and should, in my opinion, all be relocated somewhere in the northeast. They could then redevelop all that land into parks, housing, etc. Is that idea preposterous?

[Boris550]

Originally Posted by ltsowiak

Wow! The Twin Sisters took my breath away.

For me the development of the downtown core and innercity areas is going nicely and it's exciting to imagine what it'll be like in 10 years from now. I have a comment though... Unfortunately some of the most beautiful lands around the innercity core have the most hideous structures on them. I'm referring to (forgive me if my description of the area is wrong; I moved away from there over 15 years ago) the "packers" section is it??-- the southeastern area where all the industrial manufacturing buildings are. When was the last time you have driven through there? It is the ugliest, most depressing site in all of Calgary, and should, in my opinion, all be relocated somewhere in the northeast. They could then redevelop all that land into parks, housing, etc. Is that idea preposterous?

Ah, you mean the Manchester Industrial Yards I would guess. Right now the Water Centre is under construction (a fantastic building) there at Ramsay Crossing and I'm hoping for further redevelopment of the area. Most Calgarians probably don't even know the area exists.