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Old December 30th, 2006, 12:01 PM   #61
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But remember also that the flight is only about 30 mins. I don't think you can generate high yield in such a short flight. I was once on MH flight to Penang. I didn't even get served the cup cake that the stewardess passed around. The stewardess needed to go back to the landing station before she even got to my row.
Yes you can, if the demand is there.
Many short haul routes are (pretty) high yield, for example: SIN-KUL, Frankfurt-Berlin, etc.
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fra-berlin is not really short haul.. just like jakarta to semarang
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Old December 30th, 2006, 11:49 PM   #63
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I think flight below one hour is considered as short haul. Jakarta - Semarang is around 45 minutes, but it surely less than 60 minutes.

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Old December 31st, 2006, 01:20 AM   #64
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fra-berlin is not really short haul.. just like jakarta to semarang
not really short haul?
how do you call it then?

AFAIK flights up to 3 hours are considered short haul
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oh... sorry.. i thought short haul is like jakarta to bandung ..
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Old January 1st, 2007, 05:55 PM   #66
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another bad news in indonesian aviation

AdamAir Plane lost radar contacts
http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/asiapc...ane/index.html

I hope there will be survivors
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Old January 1st, 2007, 09:14 PM   #67
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yah i heard about the news also ... Adam Air lost its flight.. sounds funny .. why only adam air always kena problem...
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Old January 2nd, 2007, 09:38 AM   #68
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Adam Air Had Been Found!!

The missing Adam Air aircraft flight KI 574 had been found in the mountain area around Rangoan Village, Polewali West Sulawesi.

A joined force of SAR, KNKT, TNI , Police and Paramedics , plus the villagers are doing their best to do the emergency evacuation. However due to severe bad weather and geographically hard to reach area, these slow down the process of evacuation.

The joined forces plan to evacuate the victims to RSUD Polewali.

At the moment, the exact detail conditions of the passengers are not fully informed as the lack of communication network in the crashed area. The other disadvantage is that the crashed area is not accessible by any four wheeled vehicles. Therefore, they have to fully rely on two wheeled vehicle.

Adam Air will take full responsibility and compensate all passengers onboard flight KI 574.

http://www.flyadamair.com/info/admin/fullnews.php?id=3
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Old January 2nd, 2007, 03:03 PM   #69
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yah i heard about the news also ... Adam Air lost its flight.. sounds funny .. why only adam air always kena problem...
they have safety problem....I never fly and will never fly with them until they really fix the problem lies inside their safety operation.

I usually fly with Garuda, Sriwijaya and Batavia air.

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Old January 2nd, 2007, 07:33 PM   #70
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they have safety problem....I never fly and will never fly with them until they really fix the problem lies inside their safety operation.

I usually fly with Garuda, Sriwijaya and Batavia air.

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I think GARUDA is the only reliable Indonesian airlines. But even they are not that reliable.
I think Indonesia AirAsia is pretty reliable too, considering it is owned by malaysian airasia.
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Old January 2nd, 2007, 07:35 PM   #71
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Rescuers to search sea for Indonesian plane wreck
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MAKASSAR, Indonesia : Search teams will scan the seas off the island of Sulawesi for a plane which went missing with 102 people on board, officials said after reports the wreckage had been found on the island proved false.

The Adam Air plane with 96 passengers and six crew on board vanished from air traffic control radar screens on Monday.

The Boeing 737-400 had sent distress signals an hour after taking off from Java island en route to Sulawesi.

"Tomorrow (Wednesday) morning the search and rescue teams together with the police, military and the navy will begin to search the waters near the west Sulawesi area," Bambang Karnoyudho, head of the National Search and Rescue Board, told MetroTV on Tuesday.

He said the last signal detected by a Singapore satellite indicated the plane was in the water 30 kilometres northwest of Makassar, the capital of South Sulawesi province.

"We will focus our search in that area in the sea and we will try our best to find survivors," he said.

The regional military commander said the wreckage had not been found, contradicting earlier reports the plane had crashed in west Sulawesi.

Major General Arif Budi Sampurno told MetroTV that after checking the reported location they had not found any plane wreck.

"News from the village head reporting 12 survivors was also not true, the village head said that he never made that report," said Sampurno, whose area of command includes Sulawesi.

Reports early Tuesday said the crash site had been identified from an aerial photograph and that local residents had reported finding bodies and survivors in the jungle of West Sulawesi.

Search and rescue teams were dispatched to the area but found no sign of a plane wreck, Sampurno said.

"The local commander, the police chief and the governor went to the location and they found nothing, so earlier reports about the location, number of survivors are all untrue. We don't know where that information originates from," he told AFP.

Search and rescue chief Karnoyudho was also uncertain how the confusion had happened.

"Well, the village head had told the local police chief, who had then relayed the message to the police chief in Makassar. He then told the national Search and Rescue Board spokesman Suyatno, who told the press," he said.

"However when these people got to the site, there was no plane wreck."

The missing jet was carrying 85 adult passengers, 11 children, including four babies, and six crew.

"There are three foreign citizens, all American from one family," Adam Air spokesman Ali told AFP, naming them as Scott Jackson and daughters Stephanie and Lindsay.

The Adam Air plane took off on Monday at 12:59 pm (0559 GMT) from Surabaya on Java bound for Manado in northeast Sulawesi.

The Surabaya airport duty manager said there were no technical problems with the plane when it took off. Adam Air officials said the 17-year-old aircraft was last inspected on December 25.

It is not yet known what occurred but the area has been hit by bad weather, with high winds since last weekend.

Aircraft accidents are not uncommon in Indonesia, a vast archipelago nation stretching over 5,000 kilometres.

Public and private Indonesian airlines have been repeatedly criticised over their poor safety records, repeated delays and bad management.

Privately owned Adam Air began operations in 2003 and serves mainly domestic routes. Singapore and Malaysia's Penang are its only international destinations.

The company is a leading low-cost carrier in the competitive Indonesian market, marketing itself as a "boutique airline" placed between traditional budget firms and regular airlines.

It was the second transport disaster in Indonesia within a few days. Late Friday a ferry carrying 600 people sank off Java in an accident blamed on bad weather. - AFP/de

http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stori...250311/1/.html
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Old January 3rd, 2007, 01:49 AM   #72
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I think GARUDA is the only reliable Indonesian airlines. But even they are not that reliable.
I think Indonesia AirAsia is pretty reliable too, considering it is owned by malaysian airasia.
Indonesia air asia is okay but they do have problem with delays, LOL.....

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Old January 3rd, 2007, 09:26 AM   #73
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i think mandala will be the next reliable...
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Old January 4th, 2007, 03:34 AM   #74
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Timeline on confusion over missing Indonesian plane

POLEWALI, Indonesia, Jan 3, 2007 (AFP) - Mistaken claims that search teams had located the wreckage of a missing Indonesian plane -- and that 12 people had survived its crash -- left relatives distraught and furious media pointing the finger at authorities.

Events began to unfold Monday evening when the Adam Air aircraft, with 96 passengers and six crew on board, was reported to have disappeared from air traffic control radar screens.

Herewith is a timeline of the confusion surrounding the flawed search.

-- The Boeing 737-400 takes off at 12:59 pm (0559 GMT) Monday from Surabaya airport on Indonesia's central Java island, bound for Manado on the northeast tip of Sulawesi island, 1,500 kilometres (940 miles) away.

-- About halfway through its flight the Boeing 737-400 sends out distress signals. Officials say they lost contact with the plane which disappeared off radar screens at 0707 GMT in the vicinity of Sulawesi.

-- Early Tuesday, Air Commodore Eddy Suyanto, commander of the Hassanuddin Air Force Base in Makassar on Sulawsi, announces the wreckage has been located in a remote, jungle-covered mountain near Polewali, on the western side of Sulawesi. He cites an aerial photograph showing the plane was destroyed and gives a death toll of 90, saying local residents reported 12 survivors.

-- A military plane surveys the supposed crash site and surrounding areas. It detects a signal from the missing plane north of Polewali, says the Kompas newspaper, which had reporters on board. The plane flies low but can find no crash site in the mountainous terrain, which has many hidden cliffs.

-- The wreckage was discovered on a mountain side at a height of 8,000 feet (2,600 metres), national transportation safety commission chief Setio Rahardjo says in Jakarta, according to the detikcom online news service. He says it was supposed to be flying at 32,000 feet.

-- Adam Air public relations official Gugi tells Antara 12 people survived while the other 90 were believed to have been killed.

-- "The plane has been completely destroyed after it crashed into the dense jungle," says Muslimin, the head of a search and rescue team in Polewali. "I was informed via radio by the local community that 90 people had died and 12 had survived, but we do not know the details yet of who survived." He says the wreckage was discovered at a height of about 350 to 500 metres (1,150 to 1,650 feet).

-- Search and rescue teams are sent on foot and motorbike to check on the reported location several hours trek from Polewali. Muslimin tells AFP that a helicopter search failed to find the crash site or any victims.

-- At 6:50 pm, Adam Air officials hold a press conference to clarify that information they had received about the 90 dead and 12 survivors was from the local community and not from the search and rescue team.

-- Almost immediately, the regional military commander, Major General Arif Budi Sampurno, tells MetroTV that no wreckage had been found at the reported location. "News from the village head reporting 12 survivors was also not true, the village head said that he never made that report," Sampurno says.

-- Suyanto and Transport Minister Hatta Radjasa apologise for relaying the false information.

-- National Search and Rescue Board head Bambang Karnoyudho gives his take on what happened. "Well, the village head had told the local police chief, who had then relayed the message to the police chief in Makassar. He then told the national Search and Rescue Board spokesman Suyanto, who told the press," he tells MetroTV. "However when these people got to the site, there was no plane wreck."
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SINGAPORE – Airbus upstaged its archrival Boeing at Asia’s top air show Thursday, trumpeting new passenger jet orders worth up to $3.5 billion from India and Indonesia and another $1 billion deal with South Korea for building plane components.
Since Monday, Airbus has won aircraft orders worth as much as $6 billion, from three Asian carriers, while Boeing finalized one order that could earn it as much as $1.4 billion.

The Boeing Co. made no new major announcements Thursday at the Asian Aerospace show, which wraps up Sunday, but issued low-key statements on pacts with two aviation service centers in this region to repair and overhaul Boeing planes.

Airbus said Thursday that it received orders for a total of 40 A320 planes from two budget airlines, Indonesia’s Adam Air and India’s GoAir. The A320s have a list price of about $70 million each.

Adam Air wants 30 leased and purchased A320s to replace its aging fleet of Boeing 737s over the next five years, said Chief Operating Officer Dave Fikarno Laksono.

He said the European single-aisle, 180-seat jets have an edge over the 737s in lower fuel and maintenance costs.

GoAir placed a firm order for 10 A320s and took an option to buy 10 more. GoAir gave details of the deal in New Delhi late Wednesday, but Airbus’ formal announcement came Thursday in Singapore.

The orders “highlight the outstanding popularity that the A320 family has enjoyed with established and start-up low-cost carriers, including in the Asia-Pacific region,” said Airbus, which is based in Toulouse, France.

Airbus also signed agreements Thursday worth over $1 billion with state-run Korea Aerospace Industries Ltd. to extend their cooperation in developing new A350 planes and manufacturing components for A321 aircraft.

The A320 has clearly been the most popular plane this week, with Airbus finalizing a deal in New Delhi on Monday, the eve of the airshow, to sell 43 A320 and A319 jets to state-owned domestic carrier Indian for $2.5 billion.

Chicago-based Boeing’s only major deal this week came Tuesday, when Indian budget carrier Spicejet ordered 10 737 planes and took an option to order another 10.

The 737s also have a list price of about $70 million.

The contracts were encouraging news for plane makers, which reaped a bumper crop of orders in 2005 that is unlikely to be replicated this year, aviation analysts said Thursday.

“Last year’s boom in aircraft orders, which reached record levels, suggests that a cyclical bust is not far behind,” Peter Harbison, executive chairman of the Sydney-based Center for Asia Pacific Aviation, said in Singapore.

The aviation sector should consolidate “ahead of the challenges likely in 2007 as fleet deliveries escalate, new products enter the market and pressures intensify on manpower costs, competition, capacity and yields,” Harbison added.

More than 930 exhibitors from 43 countries are at this year’s Asian Aerospace, which was expected to pull more than 27,000 trade representatives.
I wonder why Boeing is having trouble selling it's Next Generation 737's in Southeast Asia when alot of airlines started off with older 737's.
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CNA: Search for Indonesian plane finds objects on sea bed

MAKASSAR, Indonesia : Indonesian ships searching for a missing airliner have found large metal objects on the sea bed and are waiting for a US Navy vessel which may be able to identify them, an admiral said on Monday.

The Adam Air plane with 96 passengers and six crew vanished on New Year's Day halfway through a flight between the central island of Java and the island of Sulawesi to the northeast.

The search has focused on the west of Sulawesi and the surrounding waters, an area covering tens of thousands of square kilometres.

A navy ship combing the seas southwest of Mamuju on the west coast had found large metal objects on the sea bed, First Admiral Gatot Subyanto told AFP.

"There were large metal objects at three different points. The thing is, what these metal objects are, we cannot say. We do not have the necessary equipment," said Subyanto, who is commander of the naval base at Makassar, south Sulawesi.

He said the objects had been discovered on Thursday and Friday but declined to specify their exact locations.

Six navy ships, some equipped with sonar, are combing the Makassar Strait along a 320-kilometre stretch of Sulawesi's western coast.

The navy lacked equipment capable of identifying the objects at depths of between 500 and 1,800 metres, the admiral said.

"A US navy ship is due to arrive in the area tomorrow, and we will direct them to the site," he said separately on ElShinta radio.

A US Navy oceanographic survey vessel, the USNS Mary Sears, was due to join the search on Tuesday. The 100-metre ship is capable of deep ocean surveys.

"With undersea detectors, we hope the US team will be able to locate the missing Adam Air plane," Foreign Minister Wirayuda said, according to the official Antara news agency.

Bad weather and the rugged terrain of the mountainous, rain forest-clad island have hampered the search for the missing plane.

On top of weather and geography, the search has been marred by a communications mix-up that severely embarrassed the government.

Relatives of the passengers were left distraught and angry after reports by officials last Tuesday that the wreckage and some survivors had been found on a remote mountain in West Sulawesi province turned out to be false.

The Adam Air plane vanished off radar screens on January 1.

A massive air, land and sea search has involved ships, planes, and about 2,700 police, military and search and rescue personnel.

Officials have said it was not unknown for small aircraft to disappear for years without being found, although there were no cases of a plane as large as this Boeing going missing.

Four more helicopters were due to reinforce the search effort, said First Air Marshal Eddy Suyanto.

"For today (Monday), the search continues to be focused in areas that have already been combed before. There is no extension of the search, but it is now more detailed," Suyanto told reporters in Makassar, the capital of South Sulawesi where the search is being coordinated.

Some relatives of missing passengers have admitted the chances of anyone being found alive were slim.

Vice President Yusuf Kalla at the weekend said the search would continue, whatever the cost.

Indonesian authorities usually search for a week after a disaster, but this can be extended if there is any hope of finding survivors.

Air and marine accidents are common in Indonesia, a vast archipelago nation stretching over 5,000 kilometres which relies on air and sea transport. - AFP/ms/de
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This is my pics of one of Sumatra's busiest airport....

Landing position....... The apron seems busy btw, with some planes parked... (I've told u this is a busy airport). nOT like Jakarta airport which runway made by concrete, Hang Nadim Airport made by asphalt...



there were 10 tiny and medium aeroplanes parked at apron (not including some Garuda hajj aeroplanes)...



some widebody aeroplanes of B767 used for Hajj season..



Now, my plane starts to enter taxiway, leaving the runway .... Notice HangNadim ATC Tower...



Hang Nadim airport has good taxiway before entering its longest runway in Indonesia (4km)

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Sriwijaya Airlines....



Start to entering the apron. It looked like, this plane will be parked at Gate 3. (Hang Nadim has 4 gates with 4 aerobridges, designed for wide-body ....


Inside the aerobridges. Sorry, the quality reduced, I took it by camera phone



Pics taken from koridor penghubung garbarata dan gedung terminal..well, I've just noticed that 1 dari 2 Batavia yang terparkir di sini udah push-back mau ambil take-off position. Oya, satu Mandala airlines yang di belakang itu pun udah push-back, kayaknya sih mau take-off





Arrival hall



Baggage conveyor belt ... (they've got 4 conveyors like this..) looks old :-(



Btw, they don't use LCD tv for schedule board but just tube-TV flat-screen and "i dunno how to call it" kinda flickering board.. Liatin deh, ada ibu-ibu yang sadar kamera.... PENGUMUMAN: That lady is NOT my wife



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Palembang International airport
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The Minangkabau International Airport, Padang, West Sumatra, Indonesia.

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VIEW FROM THE AIR


BOARDING GATE


COMMERCIAL AREA/WAITING ROOM


CHECK IN


ESCALATOR TO THE COMMERCIAL AREA AND WAITING ROOM


LOBBY IN COMMERCIAL AREA


INTERNATIONAL WAITING ROOM


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