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Old February 15th, 2006, 06:06 AM   #1
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Out of Place Architecture - Old vs. New

In many cities, new buildings don't seem to blend in well with their older neighbors. This is especially the case in Europe, where new skyscrapers have become more and more bold, while the traditional architecture of the old city remain. Show some examples!

Pompidou Centre, Paris
A large square greets this ultra-modern building while older rowhouses sit around it.







Swiss Re, London
I would've never expected a structure like that to pop up in the City, although after a few skyscrapers in the area, a tall building wasn't a surprise anymore. Norman Foster's design was certainly bold and daring.



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Old February 15th, 2006, 06:20 AM   #2
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I have mixed feelings with the Pompidou Centre. Honestly I find it ok though it's probably the height why it doesn't blend too well with the classical Parisian architecture.

The Swiss-Re, it may not blend with other London scrapers but shows London's becoming a bit of a futuristic city!
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Old February 15th, 2006, 09:15 AM   #3
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Personally, I have no problems with the Pompidou Centre. To me it works as a perfect justuxposition between old and new. The architects, Renzo Piano, Richard Rogers and Gianfranco Franchini knew this when they designed it, and deliberately tried not to "blend" in with the surrounding buildings. And it has worked.

Again, the Swiss Re building does fit in at street level, and there is no problems from a distance. After all, from a distance, all cities show great differences in design and construction.

Another example could be the two Dresdner bank buildings here in Frankfurt. I took this photo as commissioned work for the architectural firm that designed the new Dresdner Bank tower in the background.


I think they work perfectly together.

There are of cause some instances where they don't, but for me, what is worse is a solitary skyscraper surrounded by low rises. To me, in most cases, I prefer clusters of skyscrapers.
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Old February 15th, 2006, 09:22 AM   #4
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How the Freedom Tower in NY?
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Old February 15th, 2006, 05:53 PM   #5
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No doubt the juxtaposition of some old and new buildings can create some nice contrasts. Here's one from Paris that I particularly hate though - Tour Montparnasse :



Although the view from the top is stunning and unobstructed.
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Old February 15th, 2006, 06:03 PM   #6
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yes Tour Montparnasses location is horrible. It was the biggest mistake to built it there.
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Old February 15th, 2006, 06:09 PM   #7
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I watched a programme on BBC2 one time that said the French people hated Tour Montparnasse so much that the government made it so no building could be made taller than it, it this true?
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Old February 16th, 2006, 03:14 AM   #8
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Here's an example of new on TOP of old. It's the 40s/165m Ernst & Young Centre in Melbourne, built on top of the Herald Sun building, connected by yellow "cheese sticks"

See the project thread for more photos. This one's by mugley
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Old February 16th, 2006, 05:51 AM   #9
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In Singapore, they're numerous modern projects that involves old heritage row buildings called Shophouses here.

The shophouses were integrated into new developments.
4 projects involve entire rows of them. 2 of which had the entire streets closed off in steel and glass canopies, creating internal malls.

By the way, Bugis Junction is fake.

The real shophouse developments are at Far East Square, China Square, Grand Plaza Parkroyal Hotel and Albert Court.
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Old February 16th, 2006, 05:55 AM   #10
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Capital Square



China Square



That blue glass tower is part of the same redevelopment of the worse slums of Singapore.


Far East Sqaure, encased streets
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Old February 19th, 2006, 06:35 PM   #11
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Generally I find that new buildings tend to look more out of place in cities with a unifed older style like Paris rather than ones that were already a mix of different eras like London.
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Old February 19th, 2006, 07:58 PM   #12
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I hate it!!!!!!!!!! It looks awful I hate everything modern in paris.even the art deco buildings look out of place.and that goes for london.
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Old February 23rd, 2006, 11:35 PM   #14
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The Merchandise Mart building on Madison Square between the New York LIfe and Metropolitan Life Life buildings in NYC is the ugliest, most out of place building in the world.
Chase Manhattan downtown, when it first went up in 1960, was the most out of place building until other boxes went up. When you look at old photos of downtown NYC before 1960, you can see how magical that skyline was.
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Old February 23rd, 2006, 11:53 PM   #15
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I think there is no architecture out of place. We are at XXI century and we don't have to build folowing the old constructions sorrounding us.
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Old February 24th, 2006, 12:14 AM   #16
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I think there is no architecture out of place. We are at XXI century and we don't have to build folowing the old constructions sorrounding us.

i agree with you if those "old" buildings are form 40's, but imho a modern highrise poping up inside oldtown of Prague, Krakow, Vilnius, Riga, etc.. among breathtaking churches, palace's, castle's and other buildings from 14th-16th century would be a catastrophe
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Old February 24th, 2006, 12:41 AM   #17
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Toronto's flatiron building, European architecture and the big city.


Steam Whistle brewery in Toronto with the Rogers Center and Cityplace


Canada life old and new. Cant find a pic of both of em together.

This a render of it though
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Old February 24th, 2006, 03:35 AM   #18
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Old March 26th, 2006, 08:03 PM   #19
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Redevelopment brings contrast in Hong Kong :

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The scene below is my favourite 'juxtaposition' in London.

The church in the foreground is nearly 500 years old - it survived both the Great Fire of London and the bombings of WW2! Next to the futuristic SwissRe, the contrast between old and new is incredible:












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