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Old October 22nd, 2007, 08:11 AM   #421
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The reason 10 IH hasn't been approved by the city design panel is because there is no final rendering yet.

Let's be honest, to say there were issues with the first design would be an understatement. It just wasn't a handsome building. It was tall and sleek and glass and steel, but it wasn't handsome. Most people (myself included) were all giddy when ARC Wheeler released its plans for the site. Remember, Baltimore has never seen a building that tall...ever. The sheer magnitude of the development was awesome.

Then reality hit and the board advised the developer to go back, make some changes and report back. This is too prime a parcel to rush into something. I think we can look to the Convention Center Hilton as an example of hasty development go wrong. Maybe. We'll see when the building is done.

Give it time. There are no do-overs in real estate develpment.

As for Legg Mason, I wouldn't count them out just just. They've been working on the slurry wall for some time. They're doing the underground parking for the Four Seasons Hotel tower too, so it will take a some time. There's actually a lot of progress ebing made at that site. It took seemingly forever to a dig the hole for the Convention Center Hilton and the Ritz Carlton too. Then, the building flew up.

And the height restriction in San Diego is because the airport there is so close to City Centre, that taller buildings could affect operations there. It's sort of like the reason why there are no tall buildings on Baltimore's Westside. Helicopters couldn't land at University of Maryland Hospital....supposedly.

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Old October 22nd, 2007, 09:57 AM   #422
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Oh, and Icon is dead. It was officially buried earlier this year.

Ground is going to break on some of the other buildings in Canton Crossing. A couple of condo towers, a Meridian Hotel and some other stuff. It's going to be an upscale city within Canton.
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Old October 22nd, 2007, 07:13 PM   #423
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Lots of exciting development in Bmore. My great hope is for the Naings to be built, that section of downtown needs it (and the attendant infrastructure improvements).
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Old October 23rd, 2007, 06:38 AM   #424
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Can Somebody please tell me the "NEW TALLEST" Proposals/Approvals and tell me whether if they are Proposed or Approved!I Heard theres 5 "NEW TALLEST" Buildings so can someone please list them,their status(Approved/Proposed),and how tall they're supposed to be.I'd Really Appreciate it
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Old October 24th, 2007, 06:20 AM   #425
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Jersey City vs. Baltimore City

Its Kinda sad that Jersey City's skyline is better than ours, and Baltimore is like 2 to 3 times bigger!They're Skyline is BOOMING!I Mean,Just look at all those Approvals at Emporis.Jersey City got their "New Tallest" about 3 years ago and they have ANOTHER Approval for "ANOTHER NEW TALLEST"!Its Crazy!Jersey City isnt even big and look at their skyline!Im so jealous I admit.Our population is like 3 times bigger than theirs and we got nothing!I'll be so mad if 10 Inner Harbor or all these other proposals will never get built because we need this!Jersey City doesnt!I Mean Im happy that we got that 4 Seasons that'll reach 494ft+ but we DEFINITELY need to do better than that.Is our Market really doing that bad that its taking a while to get these proposals out and Approved?
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Old October 24th, 2007, 02:49 PM   #426
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OMG...Jersey City is so great. It has so much more history and culture. It has WONDERFUL public spaces like Journal Square (if you haven't been think Lexington Mall without the potential.) Its SUCH a great place. To top it off, they have taller buildings as well. Damn Baltimore sucks. Why can't it be a great bedroom community like Jersey City is?

You know what. Its Washington's fault. Baltimore would def. have taller buildings if we had a world-class skyline to get lost in.
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Old October 24th, 2007, 08:50 PM   #427
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LOL
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Old October 26th, 2007, 12:30 AM   #428
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THE 10 INNER HARBOR WILL BE BUILT

...WE JUS HAVE TO WAIT A LITTLE WHILE LONGER UNTIL THE MARKET HAS ENOUGH MONEY BUT THE 10 INNER HABOR WILL BE BUILT AND THE DATE IS GOING TO BE PUSHED UNTIL THE DAY THAT THE MARKET RAISES ENOUGH MONEY...ANYWHO,the announcement had been made public in Baltimore on television over a year ago which means that it will be built...Here's the link if you guys would like to see more information.."http://wjz.com/video/?cid=5".Instead of being complete by 2010..its now pushed to 2011,if the market raises enough money soon!But it WILL be built!
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Old October 26th, 2007, 12:31 AM   #429
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srry...that link doesnt work...that page doesnt show the announcement but ill look for it...but the announcement has been on tv for over a year now
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Yes, 10 IH will probably be built. They just need to secure a significant tenant in advance.
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What ever happed to the Westport Redevelopement Tower proposal.
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Old November 3rd, 2007, 06:05 PM   #432
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Another hotel coming to city
Sheraton Four Points to rise downtown
By Lorraine Mirabella | Sun reporter
November 3, 2007

Yet another new hotel is coming to downtown Baltimore.

A Manhattan-based developer is planning a Four Points by Sheraton hotel on the former site of a culinary college on South Calvert Street, Ronak Patel, a principal with developer All Star Management Inc., said yesterday.

Four Points, a midpriced sister brand to Sheraton created in 1995, features high-speed Internet access, contemporary design in its guest rooms and an on-site pool, gym and meeting space, according to its parent company, Starwood Hotels & Resorts Worldwide Inc.

Patel said he expects to buy the four-building site at 25 S. Calvert St. this month from the Baltimore International College, which moved its culinary arts school from there to a nearby building on Commerce Street.

All Star plans to demolish the buildings and construct a 15-story, 166-room hotel that would have valet parking.

The hotel would open by summer 2009, Patel said. Patel, who operates hotels in Ohio and Oklahoma, said he has been granted a franchise by Starwood to operate a Four Points.

The hotel, now in 141 locations around the world, would be the fourth Four Points in Maryland, according to Starwood, joining hotels near Baltimore-Washington International Thurgood Marshall Airport, in Hagerstown and in New Carrollton.

Patel, who had been looking for hotel development projects in Manhattan, said he was attracted to Baltimore's market by the relatively lower price of real estate and by average occupancy rates in the mid-70 percent range that are only slightly lower than a market such as Manhattan.

The new 750-room city-owned Hilton convention hotel, slated to open next fall, should help the smaller hotels in the area, he said.

"That supply will improve attendance to the convention center and that will bring more business to us," Patel said.

Downtown Baltimore has been emerging as a hub of boutique and small hotels, especially in the area along Charles, Calvert and Redwood streets.

A record 1,192 hotel rooms are under construction in the center city, Inner Harbor and Harbor East, west side and Mount Vernon, according to the Downtown Partnership of Baltimore.

Another 1,891 rooms are planned at 15 hotel projects, including the Four Points, the Downtown Partnership says.

"This seems to be one of the largest influxes of hotel projects," said Kirby Fowler, president of the Downtown Partnership.

"The Hilton convention center hotel is enabling the city to attract more conventions and many of the conventions have a spinoff need for hotel rooms in other properties. There are some hotels anticipating that spinoff effect," Fowler said.

Fowler said industry experts have said they believe downtown Baltimore lacks sufficient hotel inventory and has room for growth.

A Hotel Monaco, a brand typically developed in historically significant buildings, is slated to open by 2009 in the historic B&O Building at Charles and Baltimore streets, part of a $60 million project by Philadelphia-based ARCWheeler.

Kimpton Hotel and Restaurant Group will operate a 208-room boutique hotel on the top seven floors.

An Element hotel, a new extended-stay brand also created by Starwood Hotels, is planned for Harbor Point, a $450 million project adjacent to Fells Point.

Starwood is just beginning to roll out the Element concept, an offshoot of its Westin Hotels & Resorts, that it has described as a more upscale approach to the extended-stay category.

Four other hotels are in the planning stages, ranging from 100 rooms to 188 rooms, at 15-19 S. Charles, 26-30 S. Calvert, 301 N. Charles and 110 St. Paul Place.

Hotels under construction include Hotel Indigo at 207 E. Redwood, Staybridge Suites at 101 N. Charles and Marriott Spring Hill Suites at 16 S. Calvert.

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Old November 3rd, 2007, 06:07 PM   #433
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a taller tower would've been awesome. It is in City Center afterall. But this site probably can't hold anything taller. I'm not sure it should either. If the architects get it right, then it can work well. 15 stories is probably closer to the scale of that area anyway. We'll see.
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Old November 3rd, 2007, 06:13 PM   #434
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List of Hotels Planned or Under Construction in downtown Baltimore:

--------Project-------Neighborhood-----Flag------Completion Date

1. 10 Inner Harbor - Inner Harbor - Unknown Flag - 2009
2. City Scape - City Center - Unknown Flag - 2009
3. 301 N. Charles - City Center - Unknown Flag - 2009
4. 200 W. Saratoga St. - Westside - Red Roof Inn - 2009
5. 318 Front St. - Jonestown - Sleep Inn - 2009
6. 435 Front St. - Jonestown - Cambria Suites - 2009
7. Parcel D - Four Seasons Hotel and Residences - Harbor East - 6/2009
8. 110 St Paul Place - City Center - Unknown Flag - 2008
9. Recreation Pier - Fells Point - Aloft Hotel - 2008
10. 1 East Redwood - City Center - Unknown Flag - 2008
11. Convention Center Hotel - Hilton - Camden Yards - 8/2008
12. 800 Aliceanna Street - Hilton Garden Inn - Harbor East - 2/2008
13. 800 Aliceanna Street - Homewood Suites - Harbor East - 2/2008
14. 207 Redwood Street - Hotel Indigo - City Center - 8/2008
15. 100 N. Charles Street - Staybridge Suites - City Center - 8/2008
16. 16 S. Calvert Street - Marriott Springhill Suites - City Center - 10/2007
17. B&O Building - Hotel Monaco - City Center - 2009
18. 300 East Pratt Street - Unknown Flag - Inner Harbor - ???
19. 25 S. Calvert Street - Four Points by Sheraton - City Center - 2009

Total hotel rooms currently u/c - 1,192
Total hotel rooms in pipeline - 1,891 (Baltimore record)
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Old November 6th, 2007, 06:38 PM   #435
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Nearly 80 west side apartments are planned
$27 million in projects targeting 3 blocks

By Lorraine Mirabella

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November 6, 2007
Click here to find out more!

Baltimore officials have chosen developers to embark on $27.1 million in projects to rebuild most of two blocks of North Howard Street and expand the city's west side revitalization.

Redevelopment of mostly vacant properties, including the former Mayfair Theater, will bring 79 market rate apartments, street-level shops and on-site parking to the 400 and 500 blocks of N. Howard and to the 300 block of W. Franklin streets, the Baltimore Development Corp. said yesterday.

Mayfair Development Group, a team from Washington will redevelop three sites in the 400 and 500 blocks of N. Howard St., including the former theater.

An Ellicott City developer, P & D Realty LLC, will build a smaller project, also in the 400 block of North Howard, said the BDC, the city's development agency.

The city said it would enter into exclusive negotiations with each team to purchase the city-owned property and redevelop sites the city had offered for development in June. "We liked the proposals," M.J. "Jay" Brodie, BDC president, said. "What we know works on the west side is rental housing, and retail will gradually come along. It may be slow, but it will come. But the primary thing that makes these developments work is rental housing."

The 400 block of Howard St., now has one business, Uniform City, operating from a building in good condition, but "the rest of this block has been a shambles," he said.

Baltimore officials have been working to spur private redevelopment of blighted swaths of the west side. Apartment buildings built farther south on Howard, such as Camden Court at South Howard and West Lombard streets, have been successful in attracting tenants.

One of the area's largest projects, the "superblock" bounded by Fayette, Howard, Lexington and Liberty streets, sits several blocks south of the Mayfair and the three other North Howard sites. The project is expected to bring in hundreds of new apartments, parking and shops to the city's old retail district.

Mayfair Development, a joint venture partnership of Accent Development Co., of Potomac, and Century Associates, of Washington, will redevelop three sites - a $26 million project.

The developers will build 27 apartments, 10,000 square feet of shops and parking at 408 through 416 N. Howard St.; and 10 apartments and 4,000 square feet of shops at 300-304 W. Franklin St. and 502-504 N. Howard St.

At the former theater at 506 N. Howard, the team plans 26 rental apartments on the upper floors and 17,000 square feet of shops and parking.

The developers said they expect to finance the historic rehabilitation through the sale of historic tax credits. Construction could take up to two years.

Mayfair is already redeveloping the Faust Brothers Building at 307 W. Baltimore St. across from Centerpoint, the largest redevelopment to date on the west side.

Under P&D Realty's $1.5 million proposal for the 400 block W. Howard St., two boarded-up buildings will be transformed into 16 apartments above ground-level shops.

Kirby Fowler, president of the Downtown Partnership and a member of an advisory panel that recommended the selection of the two development teams, said moving forward on the project quickly is crucial to the area.

"These blocks of Howard Street need a shot of adrenalin," Fowler said. "We envision the apartment market will continue to thrive, making these projects achievable. Traditional cities have developed with shops and residences above. It's a nice model to continue to build on the west side."

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OK....heres the site that shows the 10 Inner Harbor was when it was on Baltimore's WJZ Eyewitness News Station"http://wjz.com/video/?cid=5".After you go there,type in "Developer Plans To Build Baltimore's Largest Skyscraper" in the Search box NEXT TO WHERE IT SAYS "TOP STORIES" with the arrow next to it pointing up and down and click "SEARCH".Its been on Baltimores television news since Sept 19th,2006.Kind of Ironic how the guy said that "construction should begin next year"WHEN ITS ALREADY NEXT YEAR and NOTHING!Reporters said that the developers already bought the land so they should at least put fencing around it to make it seem like they're going to construct it sometime in the future.
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Fairfield Inn replacing DeGroen's brewery

By Lorraine Mirabella

Sun reporter

November 9, 2007

A Fairfield Inn & Suites by Marriott will open in a former brewery in Jonestown near Little Italy, one of a raft of new hotels either under way or planned for downtown Baltimore.

The developers expect to start demolition next month to clear the way for the 154-room hotel, which will front on President Street. It is the former site of Baltimore Brewing Co., which brewed DeGroen's German-style beer in its restaurant there for 15 years before closing in 2005.

The hotel will be developed and owned by Raleigh, N.C.-based Summit Associates LLC, a hotel developer; Baltimore-based A&R Development, which will oversee construction; and Bethesda-based Hospitality Partners Hotel Management, which will operate the hotel.

A record 1,192 hotel rooms are under construction in the center city, including the 757-room convention Hilton, according to the Downtown Partnership of Baltimore. Another 1,891 rooms are planned at 15 hotel projects, including Fairfield Inn.

Gene Singleton, president of Summit Associates, termed the President Street location ideal, given its proximity to Little Italy, museums, the Inner Harbor and the city's business district.

He anticipates that the Fairfield brand will appeal to families and older visitors on weekends and business travelers during the week.

"It was an exceptional location for a hotel," Singleton said.

The development team has a contract to purchase the former brewery and the adjacent Brewer's Park from Baltimore Brewing Co. owner Theo DeGroen, Singleton said.

He did not disclose the purchase price but said development costs, including the site, will be an estimated $23 million.

The developers have agreed to restore the facades of three rowhouses, one on Lombard Street and two on Albemarle Street, that had been part of the brewery. They will be used for specialty suites and a fitness center.

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THIS IS DEFINITELY A BETTER VIEW OF THE 10 INNER HARBOR!Though this rendering is generally small,YOU HAVE TO ZOOM IN.THIS VIEW MAKES IT LOOK EVEN TALLER THAN 717FT.DEFINITELY LOOKS MORE LIKE 817 FT!LOL.Those other renderings of it made no sense
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Some MAJOR Projects!

Just to Refresh people's Memory,here are SOME of the renderings of the MAJOR projects for the Downtown or near the Downtown Area.

The MAJOR WESTPORT Project W/ The 65 Floor Tower:Proposed


The Location Where the "Naign Towers are SUPPOSED to be:


The Naign Towers 60-65+ Floors:Proposed But are SUPPOSEDLY going to break Ground in 2008 if Approved(which I HIGHLY Doubt)



10 Inner Harbor:Hopefully will Get Final Approval Soon




300 East Pratt St(50-52 Floors):Proposed


The Four Seasons(44 Floors/494 ft)/Legg Mason(24 Floors/350ft):Under Construction







1 Light St:Proposed


I Forgot What This One was Called,but it's supposed to have like 42-43 floors.



There's A LOT MORE going on in Baltimore Than This.These are just SOME of the Major Projects going down!
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The reason 10 IH hasn't been approved by the city design panel is because there is no final rendering yet.

Let's be honest, to say there were issues with the first design would be an understatement. It just wasn't a handsome building. It was tall and sleek and glass and steel, but it wasn't handsome. Most people (myself included) were all giddy when ARC Wheeler released its plans for the site. Remember, Baltimore has never seen a building that tall...ever. The sheer magnitude of the development was awesome.

Then reality hit and the board advised the developer to go back, make some changes and report back. This is too prime a parcel to rush into something. I think we can look to the Convention Center Hilton as an example of hasty development go wrong. Maybe. We'll see when the building is done.

Give it time. There are no do-overs in real estate develpment.

As for Legg Mason, I wouldn't count them out just just. They've been working on the slurry wall for some time. They're doing the underground parking for the Four Seasons Hotel tower too, so it will take a some time. There's actually a lot of progress ebing made at that site. It took seemingly forever to a dig the hole for the Convention Center Hilton and the Ritz Carlton too. Then, the building flew up.

And the height restriction in San Diego is because the airport there is so close to City Centre, that taller buildings could affect operations there. It's sort of like the reason why there are no tall buildings on Baltimore's Westside. Helicopters couldn't land at University of Maryland Hospital....supposedly.
Actually,10 Inner Harbor really is a nice building.Those other renderings that you've seen are ugly renderings that had no meaning.This rendering(below) however,shows how really nice the building is.This rendering actually makes the building look tall and worthwhile to build.This Rendering is just absolutely Great!Zoom in and it'll look better/taller!
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