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Old February 20th, 2007, 06:41 AM   #701
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Well if you see a sail, thats fine. Whats wrong with a sail?
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Old February 20th, 2007, 07:10 AM   #702
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The fact that it makes no sense for a sail to be there... Maybe if it was a beach resort or something.
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Old February 20th, 2007, 07:29 AM   #703
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Well, first of all, it's by a river.

Second of all, can't it be a sail with symbolism?

Why doesn't it make sense for a sail to be there?
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Old February 20th, 2007, 02:45 PM   #704
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The fact that it makes no sense for a sail to be there... Maybe if it was a beach resort or something.
Oh, ignorance
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Old February 20th, 2007, 03:31 PM   #705
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Old February 20th, 2007, 06:15 PM   #706
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Nice picture of the tower.
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Old February 20th, 2007, 11:13 PM   #707
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Oh, ignorance
I don't see how my opinion has anything to do with ignorance.
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Old February 21st, 2007, 12:02 AM   #708
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I don't see how my opinion has anything to do with ignorance.
Possibly he means that if a sail only reminds you of a Club Med, it's a bit as if a bull only reminds you of corridas, or a pyramid only of the Egyptians, or a fish of fish and chips. Well, I'd not say ignorance, but some degree of mind closure, yes.
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Old February 21st, 2007, 12:18 AM   #709
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holy shit been a while sure has rased a hell of alot since i last check this thread
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Old February 21st, 2007, 03:23 AM   #710
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I don't see how my opinion has anything to do with ignorance.
You still haven't answered any of my questions from my post. Here it is again:

"Well, first of all, it's by a river.

Second of all, can't it be a sail with symbolism?

Why doesn't it make sense for a sail to be there?"
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Old February 21st, 2007, 04:55 AM   #711
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Speaking of allegory. Could it be that the Federation Tower represents the ship of a powerful and wealthy state.
I'd like to note that "The ship of state" is a popular metaphor put forth by Plato in his "Plato's Republic" . Plato establishes the comparison by describing the steering of a ship as just like any other "craft" or profession - in particular, that of a politician. He then runs a reference to a particular type of government: democracy. I think that the reference to democracy in Plato's work reflects the current struggle to establish a fully functioning democratic state in Russia.

Thou, too, sail on, O Ship of State!
Sail on, O Union, strong and great!
Humanity with all its fears,
With all the hopes of future years,
Is hanging breathless on thy fate!
We know what Master laid thy keel,
What Workmen wrought thy ribs of steel,
Who made each mast, and sail, and rope,
What anvils rang, what hammers beat,
In what a forge and what a heat
Were shaped the anchors of thy hope!
Fear not each sudden sound and shock,
’Tis of the wave and not the rock;
’Tis but the flapping of the sail,
And not a rent made by the gale!
In spite of rock and tempest’s roar,
In spite of false lights on the shore,
Sail on, nor fear to breast the sea!
Our hearts, our hopes, are all with thee.
Our hearts, our hopes, our prayers, our tears,
Our faith triumphant o’er our fears,
Are all with thee,—are all with thee!

( by Henry Wadsworth Longfellow)
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Old February 21st, 2007, 06:48 AM   #712
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Well you definitely put the two and two well. Haha.

Very nice job!
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Old February 21st, 2007, 07:17 AM   #713
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I like the buildings and they fit just fine as far as I am concerned. There are only a few 'why'd they build THAT?' buildings in teh world and I see none here.

I do agree it looks like a sail....at least it isn't a boring box.
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Old February 21st, 2007, 03:24 PM   #714
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I do agree it looks like a sail....at least it isn't a boring box.
However, this is how our brain works. Almost all of us tend to draw analogies out of particular shapes and appearances. We all tend to pick out funny faces from various shapes of electric outlets, lampshades, electronics.. etc. Our brain always simplifies surrounding us objects in order to process a more complex visual information, whether consciously or subconsciously.

I'm pleased to see so much progress over the last year any how . Can't wait to visit the place next year.
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Old February 21st, 2007, 07:46 PM   #715
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great towers..i'd lovr to visit Moscow one day
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Old February 22nd, 2007, 11:12 AM   #716
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Wow! Moscow rises more in ten years than Frankfurt in half a century!!!!
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Old February 23rd, 2007, 06:17 AM   #717
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I guess I am not going to get an answer from MetalliTooL.
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Old February 23rd, 2007, 01:21 PM   #718
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Old February 23rd, 2007, 05:27 PM   #719
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Old February 23rd, 2007, 05:35 PM   #720
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Great pic!!!
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