CBD NORTH - #COMPLETED: 8 Chifley Square (Goodsell Tower) - 33st/145m/office - Page 3

Westonian · October 10th, 2006, 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MILIUX

How can you settle for 81m of stick?

130m is definetely not tall enough.

here here!

we want skyscrapers, buildings, TOWERS not poles ontop of small hovels

in saying that, i am happy that its at least a 211m high stick

CULWULLA · October 10th, 2006, 12:10 PM

what makes you think its a stick? the envelope above the tower is angled just like adjacent DB place. could be a large enclosed glass fin like Q1 or Aurora. again, ill post some pix tommorow if time allows and its actually lodged.
struth

zach24 · October 10th, 2006, 01:56 PM

gees what’s the obsession with having a massive building?
I prefer quality over quantity any day
Infact I don’t see a need for massive/tall buildings

cammo2004 · October 11th, 2006, 07:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zach24

gees what’s the obsession with having a massive building?
I prefer quality over quantity any day
Infact I don’t see a need for massive/tall buildings

Well, when you haven't seen anything truly tall in a while you start to get desperate.

Having said that, I do agree quality is better than quantity.

Oh, and Meriton doesn't count. Its cheap painted facade really ruins the design (which is a shame because it has a great shape).

MILIUX · October 11th, 2006, 09:26 AM

Where's the DA?!?!

CULWULLA · October 11th, 2006, 11:03 AM

^ bend over and ill show you.
as always they lodge when they lodge. maybe tommorrow, friday? eventually. patience

Brizer · October 12th, 2006, 01:59 AM

You want the building designed properly, and approved, give the architect time to do the job.

CULWULLA · October 12th, 2006, 04:39 AM

DA is in!
remember this is stage1 DA. height is 193m not 211m. i miscalculated.its Rl217m. roof is about 120m.
render of concept

this area around chifley talls will be awesome

Randwicked · October 12th, 2006, 06:19 AM

Remove the stupid hat and I'm all for it.
Reminds me of:

Randwicked · October 12th, 2006, 06:27 AM

2x Post

PS What happened to my other ~500 posts?

Cariad · October 12th, 2006, 06:52 AM

Oh I am not sure about it, I know it is a concept, but I think the Deutche Bank frame and this one actually interfere with one another, if we are going to have these dumb arse arc features etc then lets keep them seperate, there is way too much going on with buildings so close.

andypandy · October 12th, 2006, 08:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cariad

Oh I am not sure about it, I know it is a concept, but I think the Deutche Bank frame and this one actually interfere with one another, if we are going to have these dumb arse arc features etc then lets keep them seperate, there is way too much going on with buildings so close.

Totally agree.

Westonian · October 12th, 2006, 09:40 AM

nice! if that top part fills out with some nice "auora" type material then it would be great!

Muse · October 12th, 2006, 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CULWULLA

By this, it looks like the idea is to gradually step down from Deustche Bank Place to Capita Centre.

I'd be surprised if the arc feature remains that "large" in the final design anyway.

MILIUX · October 12th, 2006, 10:03 AM

Is the architectural feature actually glass box or just frames?

It looks unoriginal and not that inspiring.

Muse · October 12th, 2006, 10:19 AM

That would just be the envelope. Remember, we're only seeing the conceptual.

papervagina · October 12th, 2006, 01:25 PM

I think both Cariad and Muse are right - an arc would look silly next to DB, but it would be good for the building to step down to Capita. The council should forget about FSR and just let them build 193m to roof; I think they need to make both the height and FSR limits a bit more flexible.

CULWULLA · October 12th, 2006, 01:30 PM

the slopped roof follows the sun access plane down to martin place.The max fsr atm for any site in sydney is 12;1 for office. the 120m height is basically the max you can achieve with goodsells small plot.so anything above this is arc feature.
the design comp which will follow may have some entrants designing a similar cage to DB place or may not have anything above roof at all.
the developers just thought it was a good idea to show council what can be achieved for the site.
is this clear?

CULWULLA · October 12th, 2006, 01:33 PM

btw, i chatted to a guy today about sydney's low FSR (12;1) and he said there are talks underway by property council to lift the max potential FSR to 15;1 or above. this would add 5-10storeys to any new DAs .bout time. Sydney is running out of sites and we need tall thin towers not short fat ones.

Muse · October 12th, 2006, 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CULWULLA

Is this clear?

Perfectly.

If the tower ends up being 120m without any striking arc feature, just leave the Goodsell Building as is.

(BTW vag, I never thought it would look silly - I have no idea. I want to see the final design like the others, I'm sure)

October 10th, 2006, 12:10 PM	#42
CULWULLA Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 46,864 Likes (Received): 32	what makes you think its a stick? the envelope above the tower is angled just like adjacent DB place. could be a large enclosed glass fin like Q1 or Aurora. again, ill post some pix tommorow if time allows and its actually lodged. struth __________________ Sydney Harbour Bridge -1932, Sydney Opera House- 1973, Sydney Tower- 1981, Crown Hotel- 2015..

October 11th, 2006, 09:26 AM	#45
MILIUX skyscraper connoisseur Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Sydney Posts: 5,521 Likes (Received): 25	Where's the DA?!?! __________________ My Flickr V2

October 11th, 2006, 11:03 AM	#46
CULWULLA Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 46,864 Likes (Received): 32	^ bend over and ill show you. as always they lodge when they lodge. maybe tommorrow, friday? eventually. patience __________________ Sydney Harbour Bridge -1932, Sydney Opera House- 1973, Sydney Tower- 1981, Crown Hotel- 2015..

October 12th, 2006, 04:39 AM	#48
CULWULLA Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 46,864 Likes (Received): 32	DA is in! remember this is stage1 DA. height is 193m not 211m. i miscalculated.its Rl217m. roof is about 120m. render of concept this area around chifley talls will be awesome __________________ Sydney Harbour Bridge -1932, Sydney Opera House- 1973, Sydney Tower- 1981, Crown Hotel- 2015..

October 12th, 2006, 06:19 AM	#49
Randwicked Яandwicked Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Austfailia Posts: 689 Likes (Received): 0	Remove the stupid hat and I'm all for it. Reminds me of: __________________ Coming soon to TV: High Performance Vehicles : Low Performance Drivers

October 10th, 2006, 01:56 PM	#43
zach24 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Sydney Posts: 1,965 Likes (Received): 1	gees what’s the obsession with having a massive building? I prefer quality over quantity any day Infact I don’t see a need for massive/tall buildings

October 12th, 2006, 01:59 AM	#47
Brizer Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 7,900 Likes (Received): 137	You want the building designed properly, and approved, give the architect time to do the job.

October 12th, 2006, 06:27 AM	#50
Randwicked Яandwicked Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Austfailia Posts: 689 Likes (Received): 0	2x Post PS What happened to my other ~500 posts? __________________ Coming soon to TV: High Performance Vehicles : Low Performance Drivers

October 12th, 2006, 06:52 AM	#51
Cariad Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Sydney/Cardiff Posts: 2,729 Likes (Received): 56	Oh I am not sure about it, I know it is a concept, but I think the Deutche Bank frame and this one actually interfere with one another, if we are going to have these dumb arse arc features etc then lets keep them seperate, there is way too much going on with buildings so close.

October 12th, 2006, 09:40 AM	#53
Westonian Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 463 Likes (Received): 4	nice! if that top part fills out with some nice "auora" type material then it would be great! __________________ Biggest fan of Point 11

October 12th, 2006, 10:03 AM	#55
MILIUX skyscraper connoisseur Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Sydney Posts: 5,521 Likes (Received): 25	Is the architectural feature actually glass box or just frames? It looks unoriginal and not that inspiring. __________________ My Flickr V2

October 12th, 2006, 10:19 AM	#56
Muse Supernature Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Sydney Posts: 8,630 Likes (Received): 7	That would just be the envelope. Remember, we're only seeing the conceptual.

October 12th, 2006, 01:25 PM	#57
papervagina spider inside my dreams Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 1,983	I think both Cariad and Muse are right - an arc would look silly next to DB, but it would be good for the building to step down to Capita. The council should forget about FSR and just let them build 193m to roof; I think they need to make both the height and FSR limits a bit more flexible.

October 12th, 2006, 01:30 PM	#58
CULWULLA Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 46,864 Likes (Received): 32	the slopped roof follows the sun access plane down to martin place.The max fsr atm for any site in sydney is 12;1 for office. the 120m height is basically the max you can achieve with goodsells small plot.so anything above this is arc feature. the design comp which will follow may have some entrants designing a similar cage to DB place or may not have anything above roof at all. the developers just thought it was a good idea to show council what can be achieved for the site. is this clear? __________________ Sydney Harbour Bridge -1932, Sydney Opera House- 1973, Sydney Tower- 1981, Crown Hotel- 2015..

October 12th, 2006, 01:33 PM	#59
CULWULLA Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 46,864 Likes (Received): 32	btw, i chatted to a guy today about sydney's low FSR (12;1) and he said there are talks underway by property council to lift the max potential FSR to 15;1 or above. this would add 5-10storeys to any new DAs .bout time. Sydney is running out of sites and we need tall thin towers not short fat ones. __________________ Sydney Harbour Bridge -1932, Sydney Opera House- 1973, Sydney Tower- 1981, Crown Hotel- 2015..

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