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Old May 15th, 2006, 11:21 AM   #181
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The design they have now is soooooooooooo ugly i hate it what the hell are they thinking?
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Old May 15th, 2006, 11:23 AM   #182
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Where's this new one gonna go relative to that?
This "new" one isn't being built at all - as explained, it's being replaced by the phone/walkie talkie design (on the same site)!
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Old May 15th, 2006, 01:17 PM   #183
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You better get used to the Vinoly design as that will have no trouble getting through the planning process & should be under construction once the building currently on site is demolished.
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Old May 15th, 2006, 03:11 PM   #184
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You cant seriously believe that will get PP in its current form..do you?, i mean this is London were talking about.

Who is going to want that POS looming over them, it will simply dominate the entire area.

I know LBT will do the same thing, but at least that looks decent.
I dont think the SHard will dominate as this will, its much more graceful and less offensive to the eye, not that being offensive is necessarily going to be a bad thing
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Old May 15th, 2006, 04:33 PM   #185
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That is a really cool looking building. I hope it gets built.
[IMG]http://i1.************/s5v9ms.jpg[/IMG]
a bit similar to Daniel Libeskind in Warsaw:




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Old May 15th, 2006, 04:41 PM   #186
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That Warsaw Tower is far, far better.
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Old May 15th, 2006, 05:14 PM   #187
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the warsaw one is amazing ! damn
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Old May 15th, 2006, 05:24 PM   #188
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can we swap 20 fenchurch street with Warsaw one?????
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Old May 15th, 2006, 05:25 PM   #189
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A quick rendering of my own, showing the view from Tower Bridge:





Maybe they are playing smart tactics, rather like P&O seem to have done on the South Bank. Come up with a hideous proposal that will provoke strong feelings in the pulibc and will surely never be approved just to get the idea of skyscraper on that particular site accepted, as anything would be better than what they have proposed.

I have to be honest I quite like the building that is currently there and I would rather them keep it than build that monstrosity.

For some reason it reminds me of an even more hideous UN.
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Old May 16th, 2006, 04:40 AM   #190
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Maybe they are playing smart tactics, rather like P&O seem to have done on the South Bank. Come up with a hideous proposal that will provoke strong feelings in the pulibc and will surely never be approved just to get the idea of skyscraper on that particular site accepted, as anything would be better than what they have proposed.

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That woods bagot design is what I found on their (wood bagots) website & was never put out by Land Secs. Land Secs have been working with all the relevant bodies with regard the Vinoly scheme for almost a year & thats the one in planning- It has had no objections, so far from any official bodies & the only critisism from it has been from people on this forum so the likelyhood is this will sail through planning & be approved by the Autumn.
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Old May 16th, 2006, 09:42 AM   #191
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That warsaw one looks very interesting
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Old May 17th, 2006, 02:32 AM   #192
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the leicester blokes sent a letter to the council and developer, maybe you lot could try the same, just a thought.
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Old May 17th, 2006, 04:15 AM   #193
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i heard from someone involved with the project that feedback about 20FC was actually mixed and was creating strong feelings amongst people - either they love it or hate it. this refers to peoples individual opinions rather than the official opinions of bodies.
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Old May 17th, 2006, 05:16 AM   #194
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i heard from someone involved with the project that feedback about 20FC was actually mixed and was creating strong feelings amongst people - either they love it or hate it.




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Old May 17th, 2006, 05:47 AM   #195
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LMFAO....hahahaha
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Old July 13th, 2006, 12:45 PM   #196
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Latest news is that the developers have been told to reduce the height by at least 10%.
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Old July 13th, 2006, 12:57 PM   #197
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I am really trying to like this tower, esp given the high probability that it goes ahead in 2007, but I just don't. It is is too dominant, and the shape, although impressive in its own way, just jars with its current and future (we hope) neighbours.
Maybe I'm being too Luddite, or the vision is lost on a layman like me, but I hate it. Of course, the good news is that it is an exception, and the other planned towers are unbelievable!
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Old July 13th, 2006, 01:18 PM   #198
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I think the height decrese, which is ATLEAST 10%, will make it feel alot less over powering. It should be no more than 170m with the decrease.
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Old July 13th, 2006, 01:47 PM   #199
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wow... amazing...
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Old July 13th, 2006, 09:52 PM   #200
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LandSecs' 'walkie talkie' tower faces redesign

Land Securities may have to reduce the height of its 'walkie talkie' tower at 20 Fenchurch Street by 66 ft (20 m) to protect views of St Paul's Cathedral

13.07.2006
By Molly Dover

The view of St Paul's from Ludgate Circus and Limeburner Lane was not considered in the scheme's original environmental impact assessment. However, the 630 ft (192 m) proposed tower, designed by Rafael Vinoly, would be visible behind the cathedral between the dome and the western towers, which would be contrary to the Corporation of London's planning policy.

LandSecs has therefore been asked to reduce the height and redesign the building to ensure that it does not infringe the view of St Paul's. The planning application is due to go before the Corporation of London planning committee on Tuesday. The committee will report on whether it would be minded to approve the tower subject to the suggested amendments. If the committee votes in favour of an amended scheme, LandSecs will begin work to amend its plans and resubmit them for consideration at the September planning meeting.


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