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Old November 24th, 2006, 02:13 AM   #341
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Although I'm glad this particular tower has been called in, from what's being said in the UK forum it could greatly harm skyscraper developments in London for the long term. With such a complicated planning process, and so many hurdles to jump over, developers could be scared away from proposing anything tall in the City. Tall buildings could be seen as too risky and expensive.

Ruth Kelly is the Secretary of State who made this decision. She recently took over from John Prescott, and in fact, only last week she blocked the tallest ever proposal in Liverpool -

http://www.skyscrapernews.com/news.php?ref=781


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Old November 24th, 2006, 02:18 AM   #342
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Old November 24th, 2006, 11:04 AM   #343
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Old November 24th, 2006, 08:33 PM   #344
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Ruth Kelly is a bleeding witch. She's off her bleeding rocker I tell you. But then Prezza wasnt too brilliant either. He refused a 245 metre tower for Brum (thats Arena Central which is now going to be 175 metres).
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Old November 24th, 2006, 11:03 PM   #345
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What exactly are the grounds on which the Government (and Ruth Kelly, John P etc) can 'call in' a skyscraper proposal for review?

And then, what are the reasons for any redesign required by the Govt for a proposed building?
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Old January 20th, 2007, 02:23 PM   #346
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Couple of new renderings posted by london lad.

Btw, this is one of the towers which UNESCO are recommending be cancelled (see the link in my signature).

I'm no fan of 20FC, but I'm against the principal of UNESCO interfering with its planning procedure. If this gets cancelled, it will scare away developers from proposing anything else nearby.






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Old January 20th, 2007, 02:37 PM   #347
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It looks alot better in those renders. The skygardens (If it goes ahead) will be amazing.
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Old January 20th, 2007, 07:25 PM   #348
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yeh it doesnt look so bad in that render
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Old January 20th, 2007, 08:00 PM   #349
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my dad said it looked fine, which is completely off from his anti-skyscraper views... i concur that it doesnt look as bad, but london will not see this atrocity from the sky, they will see its overpowering image from te ground, its head extending over all and blocking the sun
its a good thing that its being called in.
I'd be happy if the entire project gets canceled. There is already a skyscraper there anyway.
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Old January 21st, 2007, 03:03 AM   #350
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my dad said it looked fine, which is completely off from his anti-skyscraper views... i concur that it doesnt look as bad, but london will not see this atrocity from the sky, they will see its overpowering image from te ground, its head extending over all and blocking the sun
its a good thing that its being called in.
I'd be happy if the entire project gets canceled. There is already a skyscraper there anyway.
Well the building thats there now is about half the height of the replacement, so it will be a big difference in height.
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Old January 21st, 2007, 01:29 PM   #351
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This project has a whole website dedicated to it - http://www.20fenchurchstreet.co.uk/
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Old January 21st, 2007, 04:27 PM   #352
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i hope the design is changed, that buillding will fuel anti-skyscraper opinions for years.

Aside from "skyscraper" afficiandos, what is the general sentiment of the London public regarding new and proposed highrises in the city? Is it generally positive, or is there a strong division of feelings?
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Old January 21st, 2007, 04:59 PM   #353
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I would say the majority of the public are welcoming of new skyscrapers, as long as they're designed well and in the right locations. The Gherkin, for example, is undoubtedly the most popular new building in the UK. It's had a really positive effect on the image of highrises. Gradually, more and more people are beginnning to realise the benefits of skyscrapers and the ways in which they can improve the urban environment.

I've heard a lot of positive comments about London Bridge Tower as well - nearly three-quarters of local residents are in favour of it. 122 Leadenhall seems to be quite popular in the media as well.

The Mayor of London, Ken Livingstone, is very pro-skyscraper. Likewise, the Corporation of London (the authority who assesses planning applications in the City) appear to have changed their policy in recent years. As London continues to expand its financial services industry, they realise the need to be flexible, and to offer a range of different office space for corporations. They are also desperate to compete with Canary Wharf, which has been luring some very big tenants away in recent years.

Unfortunately, there's a small minority of NIMBYs and outside organizations who seem to wield a disproportionately large influence on London's development. Take English Heritage, for example, who seem to have opposed virtually every single one of London's 20+ proposed skyscrapers, simply because they're tall. They are responsible for delaying London Bridge Tower and the Heron Tower by around 5 years.

Worst of all, though, is UNESCO. If you've seen the link in my signature you'll know what I'm talking about.
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Old January 21st, 2007, 11:24 PM   #354
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I'd be happy if the entire project gets canceled.
It's the principal that they're medling in our affairs.

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There is already a skyscraper there anyway.
No there isn't.
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Old March 11th, 2007, 02:54 PM   #355
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A fly-through video presentation. Shows views of LBT, 122 Leadenhall and Minerva from the sky lobby.

http://www.bdonline.co.uk/hybrid.asp?navcode=2064 (17Mb)

Trust me, it's well worth watching!





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Old March 11th, 2007, 06:29 PM   #356
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Old March 11th, 2007, 07:47 PM   #357
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Doesn't look like a hunchback in that render.
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Old March 20th, 2007, 07:51 PM   #358
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There's a poll on this tower which will make the national press -

http://www.worldarchitecturenews.com/

I voted "For", and I'd encourage everyone else to do the same, even though I'm no fan of the design. It's essential that English Heritage and UNESCO are defeated in this public inquiry - or it could limit future developments in the City.
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Old March 20th, 2007, 11:02 PM   #359
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Old March 21st, 2007, 01:01 AM   #360
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This chap really looks out of place, a spire structure would be better!

ps:it will block the view to Tower Bridge, too.
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