The growing Chinese Automobile Industry.

[vkameleon]

Originally Posted by hpandu

They look nice, but that's because they are copied off of other designs...

Hater.. hehe Japan and Korean car industry started the same way

[zergcerebrates]

Well only a handful of them are nice like the HQ3 Sedan. I hated when the foreign car companies pass on their designs to the Chinese car companies to make cheap domestic ones. C'mon these Chinese companies should design their own cars, building an image and brand is everything in the auto industry. OH BTW I hate those Audi and Benz rip offs. Arrgh!

[shadyunltd]

The Chinese CarMakers are at least 10 years behind American/European/Japanese CarMakers. There's no need to worry. Before even launching their products in North America, they have to pass the security tests, which they would fail easily right now.

For the record, it's common knowledge that Europeans cars (especially German brands) are less liable than American Cars. Also, Toyota is, right now, having a lot of problems on liability, which explains the fact they are the #1 in terms of the recalled cars.

http://www.businessweek.com/autos/co...ndex+page_news

[gaoanyu]

Chinese car makers will earn enough cash from China and use that to buy off sluggish western car makers. And then everything will be Chinese

[zergcerebrates]

Originally Posted by shadyunltd

The Chinese CarMakers are at least 10 years behind American/European/Japanese CarMakers. There's no need to worry. Before even launching their products in North America, they have to pass the security tests, which they would fail easily right now.

For the record, it's common knowledge that Europeans cars (especially German brands) are less liable than American Cars. Also, Toyota is, right now, having a lot of problems on liability, which explains the fact they are the #1 in terms of the recalled cars.

http://www.businessweek.com/autos/co...ndex+page_news

True, China's automobile industry is still at its infant stage, but with Visionary Vehicles bringing in specially designed Chery for the American market I think things will change.

[Sen]

Chery vehices pass the strictest emission test (EURO IV, years ahead than whatever emission test they have in US) Landwind, another automaker failed the first safety test in Europe miserably, but they went home and made some modifications, and passed the second one. now they have obtained license to export cars to Netherlands and Germany, markets that are more established than American market.

Chery Automobile Co., Ltd., founded in 1997 in Wuhu City, People's Republic of China, has become the fastest-growing independent automaker in China. Chery is committed to developing world-class automobiles via cooperation with top engineering firms such as Lotus Engineering of the U.K, and Mitsubishi Automotive Engineering of Japan, and leading auto designing firms such as Bertone and Pininfarina of Italy. In its relentless pursuit of quality, Chery adopted DURR Paint Systems in its paint shop in 2004. In J.D.Power 2004 China Initial Quality Study, Chery QQ finished first in the compact car segment. In 2005, as a groundbreaking event for the Chinese automotive industry, Chery started producing China's first high-performance Euro IV engines in cooperation with AVL List of Austria. Chery has so far launched its products in 29 countries. For the time being, Chery is developing a new line-up of products aiming at auto markets in the U.S and EU. In 2005, a strategic partnership was formed between Chery and Visionary Vehicles of the USA for launching Chery products in North America in 2007. For more information, please visit www.cheryglobal.com .

http://cn.biz.yahoo.com/060508/124/hate.html

[Sen]

Originally Posted by gaoanyu

Chinese car makers will earn enough cash from China and use that to buy off sluggish western car makers. And then everything will be Chinese

China's Nanjing to build MG cars at US plant

WASHINGTON (AFP) - Nanjing Automobile Corporation unveiled plans to produce sports cars under the fabled MG badge in Oklahoma, thus becoming the first Chinese automaker to build cars in the United States.

NAC, which bought the historic British marque from the bankrupt MG Rover Group last year, said it will start constructing the car plant in early 2007, and roll MG cars off its production line by May of 2008.
http://au.biz.yahoo.com/060712/33/srg7.html

[Sen]

BMW 3 Series alongside Brilliance Auto (Zhonghua Car) Junjie (produced in the same plant by the same company)

[matherto]

it's such a shame the build quality and crash safety is so crap on these cars.

Also a shame that the design of most of the cars completely rip off established makers cars.

and give me a 3-Series over the chinese car anyday of the week

[Sen]

Chery B23 coupe (still in development stage)

[Sen]

MALAYSIA'S national car maker Proton is in talks with Chery, one of the most ambitious Chinese car companies, about a strategic alliance that would involve manufacturing in both countries.

The deal being discussed would give Chery a manufacturing platform in Malaysia and would allow Proton cars to be produced in the fast-growing Chinese car market.
Proton and Chery refused to comment on the talks. However, a senior official at Chery said the two sides were talking while another source familiar with the negotiations said they were at a relatively advanced stage, although no final agreement had been reached.
Proton said this month that it was in talks with a number of potential partners in China about a possible alliance, leaving open the prospect that it could still sign a deal with another Chinese partner. "It makes complete sense that these two companies should be talking, because it would allow Chery to produce cars in the ASEAN region and help Proton learn more about how to make low-cost cars, which is what the Chinese are really good at," said Michael Dunne, president of Automotive Resources Asia, an industry consultancy based in Shanghai

Malaysia is a member of the 10-country Association of South-East Asian Nations, or ASEAN regional grouping.
Chery is best known for its QQ mini-car, which was one of the fastest-growing models in China last year and was the subject of recently settled litigation launched by General Motors, which believed it to be a copy of its own Spark model.
However, Chery has also been the most aggressive among China's car makers in trying to enter overseas markets and is developing a series of models for the US market, where it hopes to begin selling in 2007.
Although its strategy has been to start in developing country markets such as the Middle East and Russia, it has been held back in southeast Asia by tariffs on car imports to the Asean region.
Proton's search for a Chinese partner follows the collapse of negotiations in January with Volkswagen. The company has also renewed ties with Mitsubishi of Japan, recently signing a memorandum of understanding to develop new models and share component supplies and technical support.
The Japanese company provided the base models and technology on which Proton was founded in 1983. If a deal is formalised between the two companies, it is expected to initially involve the assembly of kits of Proton models at Chery facilities in China, while kits of Chery models will be sent to Proton's Malaysian facilities to be assembledhttp://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5744,18658172%255E36375,00.htm

[AlexS2000]

Originally Posted by matherto

it's such a shame the build quality and crash safety is so crap on these cars.

Also a shame that the design of most of the cars completely rip off established makers cars.

and give me a 3-Series over the chinese car anyday of the week

As long you can afford it then sure why not 3-series

[oliver999]

come on guys, chinese car is cheap.
you said chinese food is very unsafty, but chinese average span is more than 70 years old.
i am not rich, so i love cheap cars

[zergcerebrates]

Originally Posted by matherto

it's such a shame the build quality and crash safety is so crap on these cars.

Also a shame that the design of most of the cars completely rip off established makers cars.

and give me a 3-Series over the chinese car anyday of the week

Ah but theres something you fail to realize. Chinese didn't design some of the cars. Take this for example, a rip off of BMW 3? Hmm but its designed by pininfarina, take Pontiac for example its grille is so similar to BMW is it a rip off? You tell me.



And this Chery M14 was also designed by Pininfarina:



Theres also another thing you have to consider, most Chinese car companies average age is only 10yrs old. Their company existed for some time but they didn't start to develop cars till recently. It takes to time produce quality cars, Hyundai, Toyota or other Japanese cars didn't come out super cars to begin with it takes steps. Americans use to look down on Asian cars well, they ate their own words, looks whos crap now? The development speed the Chinese are going through it'll kick US cars in a very short time, lets see how Chery will do in USA.

[Sen]

i doubt he knows what pininfarina is.

[Sen]

Chery V5 "NEW CROSSOVER" is on the market, only 119 800 RMB.(about 15000 USD)
V5 NEW CROSSOVER (code name B14)
+developed in cooperation with Lotus Engineering (UK)
+Euro NCAP 4 star (where is the guy who said Chinese cars cant pass safety test...)
+Safety features: 4 airbags, ABS, EBD, ESBS, TCS, GPS.
+2.4 L seven seats

all this for only 15000 USD

[Xorcist]

hm...right now we just make jokes about chinese cars and thank god, you can´t buy them here in europe ( i doubt that anyone would buy them...especially in germany, where even japans lexus sell´s only a few cars). chinese cars are cheap, unsafe and well...with a horrible quality. but hey, 15 years ago we laughed about korean cars and they are quite good and successful now, so...if the established car manufactures don´t take care, they´re soon history.
a good example is GM vs.Toyota. 35 years ago, people rather bought a chevy than a toyota...and NOW??????

anyway...i prefer german cars (hey...it´s a patriotic thing...sorry)

[Sen]

August 2, 2006
China’s car exports triple
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CHINA’S export of sedans in the first half of this year more than tripled compared to a year ago to 34,506 units, which is also more than the total volume of last year, Xinhua news agency reported today.

Among all the vehicles exported to overseas markets, sedans accounted for 27.5 percent of the total with its sales reaching US$243 million, a 250 percent jump from a year ago, the report said. The unit sales growth was 259.5 percent.

Most of the sedans for export are installed with engines between 1 to 1.5 liters, accounting for 71.3 percent of the total export volume of sedans and 75.5 percent of total sales.

The country also exported 125,500 completed cars, chassis not included, from January to June, which is 86.8 percent more than a year ago.

China exported cars to 117 countries around the world from January to June. The number of cars exported to Europe and South America surged rapidly during the period. The European market has become China’s second largest market, following Asia, with its share accounting for 21.5 percent of total car exports.

Exports to South America also increased 117 percent in the first half, the report said.

Anhui Province-based Chery, China’s eighth-largest carmaker, ranked first in exporting self-branded cars, followed by Geely and FAW Xiali Co Ltd.

Chery exported 13,548 units from January to June, accounting for 67.7 percent of total self-branded car exports. The company exported almost all its models including the QQ compact car, Tiggo sport utility vehicle and Eastar sedan.

“Domestic carmakers gave up their profits to increase their export volume as prices continue to drop,” said Jia Xinguang, chief auto analyst from China National Automotive Industry Consulting and Development Corp.

Export prices slumped to US$7,039 for the first four months. The price has dropped for three consecutive years since 2003.

Shang Yugui, a spokesman of Great Wall Motors Corp, China’s largest SUV exporter, said car exporters used to lower the price to compete against each other because their models are almost the same in quality and functions.

(lxr)

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[shadyunltd]

looks whos crap now?

Well... you.

The development speed the Chinese are going through it'll kick US cars in a very short time, lets see how Chery will do in USA.

Kick US cars? I don't think so. You can't go on from sh*t to sold-out brand in 5 years. Even the Japanese, who had a great auto history and pride before taking on the US Market, didn't hit it off before the 1990s (10-20 years min.).

The Chinese brainwashed you man.

a good example is GM vs.Toyota. 35 years ago, people rather bought a chevy than a toyota...and NOW??????

Chevrolet is still the highest selling brand in the USA. I don't know what you are talking about.

[Sen]

what happens when Chery QQ collides with Benz...