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View Poll Results: Which scrapers looks more futuristic?
Asian 140 70.00%
European 60 30.00%
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Old April 3rd, 2006, 02:29 PM   #41
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Dubai is in Asia, please don't steal it!!
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Old April 4th, 2006, 07:26 AM   #42
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isn't dubai also Asia?

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DOI will be IMO 238m

and i loveee those english skyscraper renderings
Yes Dubai is in Asia though it's classified as Middle East.
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Old April 4th, 2006, 08:55 AM   #43
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Asian without a doubt
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Old April 4th, 2006, 09:32 AM   #44
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How about this, alot of European architects designed several landmark skyscrapers in Asia. Just like The HSBC Building in HK by Sir Norman Foster. How would you consider this, Asian or European

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Old April 4th, 2006, 09:44 AM   #45
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Singapore and Kuala Lumpur are in the British Commonwealth.
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Old April 4th, 2006, 09:47 AM   #46
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^ There is nothing to do with that matter.^.
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Old April 4th, 2006, 05:49 PM   #47
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I think both are really interesting, and futuristic in their own way.
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Old April 4th, 2006, 08:29 PM   #48
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It's an interesting one, as both continents have some very interesting and daring designs. I personally though would give the edge to Asia for skyscrapers.

However, for lowrise buildings, I would give the futuristic edge to Europe.
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Old April 5th, 2006, 12:05 PM   #49
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Asia got some pretty modern lowrise structures as well including airports. How about the HK's airport, isn't that modern?
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Old April 5th, 2006, 05:17 PM   #50
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Stansted and Munich have very modern airports as well. Both continents do a good job with some very innovative designs, but Europe offers a much bigger contrast especially with their stock of old buildings.
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Old April 5th, 2006, 06:24 PM   #51
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Futuristic, eh?

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Old April 6th, 2006, 08:46 AM   #52
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Oh man, The Turning Torso is already defining the futuristic design of the euroscraper if not The Swiss Re or Torre Agbar.
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Old April 7th, 2006, 02:09 PM   #53
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No, it's because land cost more, do you know how much cost a land in Frankfurt or London ? Hong-Kong is not specific of other asian cities considering its small land, but Tokyo actually have not really tall towers, the cost of land is quite big, but in China it's easy to buy one ! (a proof is that only 30% of Shangai offices are used ...). It's one of many reasons ! preservation is another, some districts of Paris have twice the density of Hong-Kong, but we still prefer don't built towers, it's like this in Paris you have a big quality of life either and the sensation that in some districts, you are in a small village of town, and not inside a metropolis of 10 millions inh. !
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La Grande Arche is maybe ugly but it was the first skyscrapers like this in the world, since then Tokyo copied it and Beijing will built a similar.

Also Torre Agbar and Swiss Re don't exist outside Europe, I predict you that asians will copy them in the future ! Be futuristic means that others will copy what you have because they never had that and they find it attractive, most of big projects in Asia (beijing airport, opera houses of Beijing and Shanga´ and so on) are made by european architects ! Zara Hadid, Norman Foster and Calatrava are enough well known to make Europe ahead.

The number of towers and the height of skyscrapers don't make them futuristic, they can be considered futuristic with technical figures (like the big ball of Taipei 101), but artistically it's another world !


^he's right.

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we are all debating here and we are communicating via English, an European language.

we are using the Internet, something created by Americans, descendant of Europeans.

wasn't the whole skyscraper concept born in North America (yeah West again)

I think the concept of architecture like we know it started in Europe, with the Ancient Greeks, am I wrong?

This is a ridiculous comparison. Asia is great, no-one can deny that, very respectable people. But Europe is kind of the "promised land", things really started in Europe. All the ideas, the development, all the art, all the science, all the music.... I mean we are talking about hundreds and hundreds of years of non-stop craving for civilization. Europe is probably packed with development already, ancient development, so Europeans don't need skyscrapers to show they are developed, they've had hundreds of years of unbeatable progress, triumph, failure, the usual issues of the human experience, but always showing the most order among everyone on Earth.

The most important languages on Earth are all Europeans: English, Spanish, French.

So yeah I think this is a ridiculous comparison. You earthlings.....

damn you're so stupid sometimes.


The Ancient Greeks


New York City


New York City - The Grandiosity of Freedom and Democracy, an European model


Paris - The Eiffel Tower - The First of its kind


Paris - The Notredame Cathedral - Art, Architecture, Faith, Order


The British Empire - yeah baby!!!


Spain - Flamenco, the guitar, Gaudi, Picasso, Dali..... simply insanity.


Caracas - Spaniards, Italians, Portuguese, Arabs, Germans, Mestizos.... a thriving city built on a mountain system.


Western Hottie


Buenos Aires: an European-modeled gem in South America


Buenos Aires - it's just cool to be westerner.........




I call it even.

Europe has things that Asia could never handle... and Asia can do things that Europeans would consider unnecessary.

I love you earthlings...
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Since we're going 'so far back' - civilisation started in Asia. So technically...
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Old April 7th, 2006, 06:46 PM   #55
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China was the world's most technologically advanced nation with huge cities that led the world until the Renaissance. There were a lot of scientific innovations happening in China as Europe plunged into the Dark Ages. The compass, gunpowder, and paper were all Chinese inventions, so I wouldn't buy the Western-centric argument that European civilization is far more advanced since the leap was only made in the last 500 years. That's why Marco Polo made it all the way to Cathay and was amazed with what he saw.
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[/B]This is a ridiculous comparison. Asia is great, no-one can deny that, very respectable people. But Europe is kind of the "promised land", things really started in Europe. All the ideas, the development, all the art, all the science, all the music.... I mean we are talking about hundreds and hundreds of years of non-stop craving for civilization. Europe is probably packed with development already, ancient development, so Europeans don't need skyscrapers to show they are developed, they've had hundreds of years of unbeatable progress, triumph, failure, the usual issues of the human experience, but always showing the most order among everyone on Earth.
WOW, you just made my day...
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Old April 8th, 2006, 04:26 AM   #57
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Yea precisely.

Riles me that some people can be so ignorant.
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Old April 8th, 2006, 08:12 AM   #58
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definitely asian
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Old April 8th, 2006, 10:59 AM   #59
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China was the world's most technologically advanced nation with huge cities that led the world until the Renaissance. There were a lot of scientific innovations happening in China as Europe plunged into the Dark Ages. The compass, gunpowder, and paper were all Chinese inventions, so I wouldn't buy the Western-centric argument that European civilization is far more advanced since the leap was only made in the last 500 years. That's why Marco Polo made it all the way to Cathay and was amazed with what he saw.
yeah well you have a good argument. anyway, I never said Europe was better or more advanced or more important than anyone else, I would never say that. Earth is all of us, and all that we have today has been the work of all humans thriving to make things better. The Dark Ages though represented a relatively short amount of time compared to all of Europe's history. Still, this was a very necessary step for the great Renassaince.


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Since we're going 'so far back' - civilisation started in Asia. So technically...
Uh huh..... yeah.... I thought civilization started in Africa, and then Babilon (where Irak is located).


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WOW, you just made my day...
thx for the sarcasm, I wish I had butter to put on it.


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Yea precisely.

Riles me that some people can be so ignorant.
oh man that's sweet. I tell you mirrors are sooooo cool.......






I love you earthlings.

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Uh huh..... yeah.... I thought civilization started in Africa, and then Babilon (where Irak is located).

Your ignorance shines through yet again.

Human life began in Africa. Civilsation began in Egypt and Mesopotamia as well as Eastern Asia (namely, by the Yangtze and Indus rivers).
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