Double Dark Day for Atlanta

357wayz · March 7th, 2006, 08:16 AM

Not only do they lose the NASCAR hall of Fame, they potentially lose one of their fortune 500 headquarters. I'm a Charlottean and even I have some pity for our World Class City big sister that we are trying so desperately to emulate up here in the QC

krazeeboi · March 7th, 2006, 11:08 AM

Not landing the HOF wasn't a loss.

Can't really comment on the AT&T/BellSouth situation though.

teshadoh · March 7th, 2006, 01:57 PM

What the NASCAR HOF was for Atlanta was a bruised ego, otherwise a large number of people did not support the HOF in the location selected, not to mention the funding mechanism (me included). What you don't have doesn't hurt you anyways...

Losing BellSouth - though it won't be economically drastic, will in my view hurt the civic community. Andof course it will be a greater bruise to the ego, as was losing Georgia Pacific & Scientific Atlanta, not to mention Delta filing chapter 11 & Suntrust continuing to be mentioned as likely merger candidate.

3rd thread on the subject by the way...

Trae · March 8th, 2006, 12:27 AM

Looks like some hard times for the Big ATL. Hope it gets better.

Brillemeister · March 8th, 2006, 09:42 AM

Callous though it may sound, I only have one question: what will happen to the Bellsouth building next to the Fox? Will the logo at the top be replaced? Will it even be used anymore?

LSyd · March 8th, 2006, 03:16 PM

awww, here's a cookie. cheer up kid.

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p.s. notice the thread starter's from Charlotte. here's a blue ribbon, your city's special.

krazeeboi · March 8th, 2006, 09:41 PM

ROTFL @ LSyd

ironchapman · March 8th, 2006, 11:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBrad

What the NASCAR HOF was for Atlanta was a bruised ego, otherwise a large number of people did not support the HOF in the location selected, not to mention the funding mechanism (me included). What you don't have doesn't hurt you anyways...

Losing BellSouth - though it won't be economically drastic, will in my view hurt the civic community. Andof course it will be a greater bruise to the ego, as was losing Georgia Pacific & Scientific Atlanta, not to mention Delta filing chapter 11 & Suntrust continuing to be mentioned as likely merger candidate.

3rd thread on the subject by the way...

I agree with Brad. We wanted the NASCAR Hall of Fame more or less just so we could say we had it pretty much. I'm not saying it wouldn't be successful, but we wanted it just so it could be another feather in our cap. Meanwhile, Daytona and Charlotte actually had ties to the sport's history and had a little bit more of an entitlement to it.

BellSouth was the big loss here. It was a great corporate citizen. We wonder what will happen without it.

BTW, Brad, who is looking to merge with SunTrust? I've haven't seen any news on it. The last I heard of any company looking to merge with SunTrust was Wachovia a few years back and I haven't seen anything on that since.

Of course, over the past few days, I have become increasingly worried about Delta, whose pilots have gone on strike. They say that a pilots strike could "Cook" the company.

Sean in New Orleans · March 9th, 2006, 01:01 AM

Atlanta is Charlotte's granddaddy...they can take the punches. This won't even put a ripple in their numbers. LONG LIVE ATLANTA!!!

Brillemeister · March 9th, 2006, 08:02 AM

^ironchapman: They've already gone ahead with the strike? I don't remember seeing anything in the news about it.

ironchapman · March 10th, 2006, 02:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brillemeister

^ironchapman: They've already gone ahead with the strike? I don't remember seeing anything in the news about it.

Sorry, they aren't striking (though a vote has been called on it, I think). They are actually doing informational pickets from three airports Atlanta, Logan/Boston, and JFK (I think it's JFK, but I could be wrong).

gwiATLeman · March 11th, 2006, 04:30 PM

Dark day? Hardly. Companies change just like business in general changes over time. The Business Chronicle made the point that since 2000 Bellsouth has cut three times the number of jobs the metro is likely to lose as a result of this merger and in a major city with a dynamic economy, this will be no more than a hiccup.

We are lucky that the HOF is going to Charlotte because a tourist attraction is the LAST thing this city needs to spend millions on at this point.

yoyoniner · March 12th, 2006, 02:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 357wayz

Not only do they lose the NASCAR hall of Fame, they potentially lose one of their fortune 500 headquarters. I'm a Charlottean and even I have some pity for our World Class City big sister that we are trying so desperately to emulate up here in the QC

Atlanta is a great place, but if you think it is a "World Class City" you certainly haven't travelled much.

Dale · March 12th, 2006, 02:29 AM

Actually, I was thinking about driving up to Atlanta next weekend. But given the events of the past few days, I guess I'd better ask ... will Atlanta be open ?

LSyd · March 12th, 2006, 02:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yoyoniner

Atlanta is a great place, but if you think it is a "World Class City" you certainly haven't travelled much.

regardless of ATL's status, go back to your own forum Metroboi, ya douche.

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DallasTexan · March 12th, 2006, 03:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dale

Actually, I was thinking about driving up to Atlanta next weekend. But given the events of the past few days, I guess I'd better ask ... will Atlanta be open ?

I dunno, I heard the Westin Peachtree was auctioned off to Indianapolis the other day to pay the city's electric bill this month

yoyoniner · March 12th, 2006, 04:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LSyd

regardless of ATL's status, go back to your own forum Metroboi, ya douche.

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Heh, you'll just have to believe me that I love the South and am probably going to move back one day. Just come in here to check things out. Didn't expect to come in here for a laugh, but calling ATL a "World Class City" is not very believable when you are currently living in Chicago.

AubieTurtle · March 12th, 2006, 11:12 PM

Sigh... and calling Chicago a world class city is not very believable for someone living in New York.

For the most part, people's decisions on what constitutes a world class city is very subjective. The only objective measure I know of was defined by Loughborough University's Globalization and World Cities Study Group and Network. According to their measure, Atlanta is level three gamma world city. Chicago is a level two alpha world city.

So there is no question that Chicago is a higher level of world city than Atlanta but that doesn't prevent Atlanta from being one at a lower level.

micropundit · March 12th, 2006, 11:38 PM

^ What he said!

LSyd · March 13th, 2006, 02:09 PM

cheer up Atlanta, your own movie starring rappers is coming out soon, ATL!!!

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March 7th, 2006, 08:16 AM	#1
357wayz North Cock-it-Back Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Charlotte USA Posts: 12 Likes (Received): 0	Double Dark Day for Atlanta Not only do they lose the NASCAR hall of Fame, they potentially lose one of their fortune 500 headquarters. I'm a Charlottean and even I have some pity for our World Class City big sister that we are trying so desperately to emulate up here in the QC

March 7th, 2006, 11:08 AM	#2
krazeeboi Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: metro Atlanta Posts: 4,752 Likes (Received): 2	Not landing the HOF wasn't a loss. Can't really comment on the AT&T/BellSouth situation though. __________________ You can't win, you can't break even, and you can't get out of the game!

March 8th, 2006, 03:16 PM	#6
LSyd Megalomaniac Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Bavaria, Germany Posts: 3,985 Likes (Received): 31	awww, here's a cookie. cheer up kid. - p.s. notice the thread starter's from Charlotte. here's a blue ribbon, your city's special. __________________ "To be fair to LSyd, he does have an eye for graffiti, dereliction and stray souls." - gleegieboy

March 8th, 2006, 09:41 PM	#7
krazeeboi Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: metro Atlanta Posts: 4,752 Likes (Received): 2	ROTFL @ LSyd __________________ You can't win, you can't break even, and you can't get out of the game!

March 9th, 2006, 01:01 AM	#9
Sean in New Orleans Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 2,923 Likes (Received): 2	Atlanta is Charlotte's granddaddy...they can take the punches. This won't even put a ripple in their numbers. LONG LIVE ATLANTA!!! __________________ "America has only three cities: New York, San Francisco, and New Orleans. Everywhere else is Cleveland." Tennessee Williams

March 7th, 2006, 01:57 PM	#3
teshadoh 100% Right 50% Of Time Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Boulder, CO Posts: 1,272 Likes (Received): 0	What the NASCAR HOF was for Atlanta was a bruised ego, otherwise a large number of people did not support the HOF in the location selected, not to mention the funding mechanism (me included). What you don't have doesn't hurt you anyways... Losing BellSouth - though it won't be economically drastic, will in my view hurt the civic community. Andof course it will be a greater bruise to the ego, as was losing Georgia Pacific & Scientific Atlanta, not to mention Delta filing chapter 11 & Suntrust continuing to be mentioned as likely merger candidate. 3rd thread on the subject by the way...

March 8th, 2006, 12:27 AM	#4
Trae Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Metro Houston Posts: 1,815 Likes (Received): 0	Looks like some hard times for the Big ATL. Hope it gets better.

March 8th, 2006, 09:42 AM	#5
Brillemeister Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Atlanta Posts: 183 Likes (Received): 0	Callous though it may sound, I only have one question: what will happen to the Bellsouth building next to the Fox? Will the logo at the top be replaced? Will it even be used anymore?

March 9th, 2006, 08:02 AM	#10
Brillemeister Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Atlanta Posts: 183 Likes (Received): 0	^ironchapman: They've already gone ahead with the strike? I don't remember seeing anything in the news about it.

March 11th, 2006, 04:30 PM	#12
gwiATLeman Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,100 Likes (Received): 5	Dark day? Hardly. Companies change just like business in general changes over time. The Business Chronicle made the point that since 2000 Bellsouth has cut three times the number of jobs the metro is likely to lose as a result of this merger and in a major city with a dynamic economy, this will be no more than a hiccup. We are lucky that the HOF is going to Charlotte because a tourist attraction is the LAST thing this city needs to spend millions on at this point.

March 12th, 2006, 02:29 AM	#14
Dale Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Orlando,FL Posts: 7,731 Likes (Received): 25	Actually, I was thinking about driving up to Atlanta next weekend. But given the events of the past few days, I guess I'd better ask ... will Atlanta be open ?

March 12th, 2006, 11:12 PM	#18
AubieTurtle Human Supernova Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Atlanta Posts: 422 Likes (Received): 0	Sigh... and calling Chicago a world class city is not very believable for someone living in New York. For the most part, people's decisions on what constitutes a world class city is very subjective. The only objective measure I know of was defined by Loughborough University's Globalization and World Cities Study Group and Network. According to their measure, Atlanta is level three gamma world city. Chicago is a level two alpha world city. So there is no question that Chicago is a higher level of world city than Atlanta but that doesn't prevent Atlanta from being one at a lower level. __________________ "The end of democracy, and the defeat of the American Revolution will occur when government falls into the hands of the lending institutions and moneyed incorporations."-Thomas Jefferson

March 12th, 2006, 11:38 PM	#19
micropundit Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 170 Likes (Received): 0	^ What he said!

March 13th, 2006, 02:09 PM	#20
LSyd Megalomaniac Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Bavaria, Germany Posts: 3,985 Likes (Received): 31	cheer up Atlanta, your own movie starring rappers is coming out soon, ATL!!! - __________________ "To be fair to LSyd, he does have an eye for graffiti, dereliction and stray souls." - gleegieboy

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