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Old May 1st, 2013, 10:29 AM   #2081
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It's IBC, not IBD
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Old May 1st, 2013, 06:20 PM   #2082
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I don't think you're right. It's not a center, but a whole business district, however.
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Old May 1st, 2013, 06:36 PM   #2083
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But I am. It is the Moscow International Business Center that is located in Presnensky district.
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Old May 1st, 2013, 10:45 PM   #2084
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District doesn't always mean an administrative unit.

In any case, Moscow city is not just a business center but a cluster. To call it district sounds more natural.
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Old May 2nd, 2013, 12:11 AM   #2085
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Old May 2nd, 2013, 07:27 AM   #2086
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Our "formal" English is not what we should rely on . This monument features quite a lot of mistakes.

La Defense in Paris is called district, too while administratively it belongs even to different boroughs and districts (Courbevoie, Nanterre etc)
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Old May 2nd, 2013, 01:01 PM   #2087
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Yes it is.
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Old May 2nd, 2013, 01:09 PM   #2088
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Night City Dream, can you write more correctly? There is no any International Business District in Moscow.
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Old May 2nd, 2013, 01:35 PM   #2089
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I'm just trying to write in clear English while center is something awkward.

And please, stop that off topic.
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Old May 2nd, 2013, 02:01 PM   #2090
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New York's World Trade Center is not just a building either. But the area has got its name, just like IBC in Moscow.
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Old May 2nd, 2013, 07:48 PM   #2091
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A quick question regarding Moscow's metro. The new stations (UC) seems to be not so deep in comparison to the old metro station. Is it finished the time when the metro was very deep?
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Old May 2nd, 2013, 08:50 PM   #2092
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A quick question regarding Moscow's metro. The new stations (UC) seems to be not so deep in comparison to the old metro station. Is it finished the time when the metro was very deep?
The deep-level stations are being built only where it's necessary. This method is much difficult, more expensive and more slower. However, during construction of shallow stations (by cut-and-cover method) it's need to use larger area (with limitation of road traffic and removal of communication) for construction site.

So, construction of shallow stations is not best variant in the central part of city with dense location of buildings. The vast majority of Moscow Metro stations is being built in the outskirts, so it's easier and less difficult to use cut-and-cover method for this areas. However, some stations are being built in the area with dense location of buildings (like northern segment of Line 10), so they are forced to use deep-level construction in this cases.

This is a good Moscow Metro map where painted depths of station. As you can see - the depth of station is depended from its geographic location - deep-level stations at the central part of Moscow and shallow stations at the outskirts.


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Old May 2nd, 2013, 09:39 PM   #2093
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New York's World Trade Center is not just a building either. But the area has got its name, just like IBC in Moscow.
Right you are. It's like Capital City, for instance. But not like the whole Moscow City. It's a matter of tastes, you don't need to repeat the mistakes officially made by the previous government of Moscow, however, if you'd like too - I don't mind.

For me, it is more than a "center". And please, let me decide what to call it.
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Thanks a lot for the map and explanations.

I used a lot Park Pobedi, and the mechanical stairs are horrible why a deepth of 84m, as there is nothing special there?
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I used a lot Park Pobedi, and the mechanical stairs are horrible why a deepth of 84m, as there is nothing special there?
Because Park Pobedy (Victory Park) is located on the Poklonnaya Hill. In the case of shallow construction, trip in the tunnels between "Park Pobedy" and neighboring stations would be look like at the roller coaster (which is called "American Mountains" or "Russian Mountains").
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3rd interchange ring line construction site at Moscow City IBD.






2 .05. 2013 года.

And today, on the 3rd of May some 10 - 15 dump trucks were noticed on the site.
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Old May 3rd, 2013, 10:10 PM   #2097
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Kalininsko-Solntsevskaya line (yellow), construction site at Moscow City IBD.

Seems like this machinery broken down as it didn't work on that day and there were some professionals noticed, they were examining it.



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2 мая 2013 года.

Today, on the 3rd of May the conveyer didn't work either.
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Could be a couple of reasons the conveyor is not working:
- The conveyor itself malfunctioning - torn belt, sticking rollers, etc
- the TBM has stopped boring temporarily, ie, hit a bad patch in the earth - rocks, boulders, etc.

The Robbins EPB TBM has the 'spoil' or 'muck' taken away from the cutting face via a screw conveyer out through the pressure chamber and then onto a series of belt conveyers all the way back to the surface where you have photographed the vertical lift machinery at the IBC.

This all depends on the muck being always removed on a continuous basis - it cannot be allowed to accumulate on any of the belts once the TBM is under way - if the conveyor is broken, the TBM has to stop working, or vice versa.

The tunnel locomotives are used to transport the lining segments and personnel, there is no provision to transport the muck by rail on this particular group of tunnels. So, no conveyor belt - no go!
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They will probably soon open an entrance to Vystavochnaya station, that has been closed since 2007 for the construction of the City Square at Moscow City IBD.



7 мая 2013 года.
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