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Old February 6th, 2009, 10:20 PM   #341
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Elektrozavodskaya (APL, 3) has been reopened after reconstruction.

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BTW, this station was build at war time originally, in 1943-44, when war and victory were the only valuable things.
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Old February 7th, 2009, 06:34 PM   #342
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i'm still interesting what is so outdated in this interior? and what is modern interior (comparing to large metro systems)?



lul 2009 stock muck up

r160 from nyc subway

mf2000 from paris metro

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The point is that these three are comparable but they are far way from being "up-to-date" as for their interior.

Brussels is already mentioned here, then go and have a look on German metro trains. They are much better and nicer than that of Moscow, Paris, London and of course the US.
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Old February 7th, 2009, 06:38 PM   #343
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Again, can you say what exactly is obsolete in 740/741 series ? You can like or dislike it, but technically it's up-to-date and much modern than a traditional 714/717 series.
Technically, yes, perhaps. But in terms of design they are not.
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Old February 7th, 2009, 06:41 PM   #344
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Here is interior of Brussels Metro.
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Very bad design.
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Old February 7th, 2009, 07:16 PM   #345
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pseudo-patriotism always lacks for objectivity.

The only thing I'd object here, is the coverage of the seats.
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Old February 8th, 2009, 01:36 AM   #346
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pseudo-patriotism always lacks for objectivity.
Yeah, when you have no arguments you can always use accusation of "pseudo-patriotism".

Design is horrible, those who made it obviously never seen a rush hour in a big city. Layout of seats is absurd for a big metro system, distance between seats is too small. It will be a nighmare to ride in such train in a crowded metro system. Also, those yellow handrails block the back sides of seats , thats stupid
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Old February 8th, 2009, 12:58 PM   #347
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Yeah, when you have no arguments you can always use accusation of "pseudo-patriotism".

Design is horrible, those who made it obviously never seen a rush hour in a big city. Layout of seats is absurd for a big metro system, distance between seats is too small. It will be a nighmare to ride in such train in a crowded metro system. Also, those yellow handrails block the back sides of seats , thats stupid
I agree on the fact that layout of seats is not fully appropriate for Moscow or London, Brussels is 1 million h city and they go for the confort of the people using the metro sitting them. Metro uses a mix of both:

Living outside Brussels, I did not use those new trams made in Spain, it looks that seats are plastic with thin layer of sticker. If it so, it is not very nice, if it is a layer of gum, then good (need confirmation). Introduction of wood (even fake) gives warmth in the cars and reduces aggressivity. Yellow bars behind seats can only be designed litke that because there are seats of course. If not, I would design them no that wide. Designer who designed this metro is experienced in public transportation. I believe choices have been weighted. But it is not his best work, definitely!

And big cat, before criticizing with hot blood, calm down, and read my previous comments! My only intention is to push russian design to the level where it should be. Russians can do much better and already proved it previously.

So don't misunderstand me, we need great examples of design in Russia to stimulate other good designs and Metro is an icon, sorry those new Metro cars are just "normal".

See this example, reflecting I believe more the aspirations of Russians, even if it is a luxurious car. If Lada were made with such inspiration and quality, believe me, world would attitude change towards Russia. Recognizing attitude and quality of work. We need a "Wow!" effect, I hope you understand this.

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Old February 9th, 2009, 02:11 PM   #348
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Best metro system ever build. Such a huge and dominant stations and tunnels.
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Old February 12th, 2009, 01:31 AM   #349
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i think the new trains look ok
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Old February 12th, 2009, 01:55 PM   #350
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Line 3, APL. West extension, October 2009


Myakinino

05.02.2009
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Volokolamskaya

02.2009
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Line 10, LDL. South extension, 2010


Zyablikovo

02.2009
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http://russos.livejournal.com/540537.html





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Old February 14th, 2009, 06:33 PM   #351
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Why is Volokolamskaya a different design to other shallow stations?
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Old February 14th, 2009, 06:43 PM   #352
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1. Because not all station looks the same
2. Because it's too deep. Originally it was supposed to be 2-story complex. -2 level for station and -1 as mechanical level.
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The new ones yes, ok. But I wish they were silent as in fact they are not. I think this is more important.
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Old February 14th, 2009, 08:52 PM   #354
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Is it a bored station or a cut-and-cover station?
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Old February 14th, 2009, 10:38 PM   #355
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Old February 20th, 2009, 04:12 PM   #356
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Line 3 (APL). Mitino.

Photos by Russos, mid-February 2009





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Paer of station with finished vault






Building a part of vault
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Old March 10th, 2009, 06:43 PM   #357
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Moscow plans to spend 590bln rubles ($17bln) on Metro construction in 2010-2015. 342bln p. from the city budget and 248bln p. from the federal budget. Federals however do not really want to finance public transport anyhow, so second part can be significantly reduced. This year Moscow will spend ~40+ bln p. ~ $1,4bln.
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best... Metro... EVER
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Old March 13th, 2009, 02:47 PM   #359
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Line 3, APL. West extension, October 2009


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Moscow will spend 590 Billion RUB (13 Billion €). in building new metro lines till 2015.

Source in german: http://www.moskau.ru/moskau/stadtnew..._bau_1366.html
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