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Old March 13th, 2009, 08:33 PM   #361
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aquesstion : are there air conditionig n calefaction units in all the trains in main line???????????????????????????
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Old March 13th, 2009, 10:33 PM   #362
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i don't know what line you call main, but no. it's not really necessary as the system is very well ventilated. although, new trains are going to be air conditioned.
there is a specific thread for them
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=733248
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Old March 14th, 2009, 12:00 AM   #363
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An updated proposal for 2015 program. Still not approved.

2015 program (70+ km / 30+ stations, including ~9 km / 5 stations this year and circle city railway)


Long term program (650+km of metro in total)





Also new station plan - Pyatnitskaya is a short-term replacement for Rozhdestveno.
Next after Mitino on APL should be built in 2010-2012.
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Old March 14th, 2009, 05:18 AM   #364
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stunning!!! I wish I spent more time in the Metro while I was in moscow...
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Old March 14th, 2009, 08:37 PM   #365
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Moscow metro is the most beautiful and efective rail network in the world imo.
so beautiful and clean stations, the lines made porfectly.
the circle line is genius.
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Old March 15th, 2009, 12:21 AM   #366
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Moscow is not the first to have a circular line...
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Old March 15th, 2009, 05:38 AM   #367
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WOW!! Such nice stations and nice progress. I just noticed the advantage of using trains that are powered by the rail and not from overhand powerlines, the station looks nicer actually.
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Old March 15th, 2009, 08:35 AM   #368
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For a system that has such wonderful architecture in its stations, it's rolling stock sure looks unworthy.
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Old March 15th, 2009, 04:05 PM   #369
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Moscow Metro was first in Europe to use smartcard, but it seems also first one to use only smart cards, at least among big metro systems.


Moscow Metro: the World’s First Major Transport System to Operate Fully Contactless
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NXP, the independent semiconductor company founded by Philips, today announced that the Moscow underground is the world’s first public transport system to run a 100% contactless automatic fare collection (AFC) system based on MIFARE technology. Moscow Metro is one of the most heavily used public mass transport schemes in the world, carrying on average nine million passengers per day, and standardizing on MIFARE has helped improve the overall passenger experience and drive operational efficiencies.

The Moscow Metro AFC system, implemented by system integrator Smart Technologies Group, has extended its existing smart card based electronic ticketing solution in the beginning of 2008 by replacing the magnetic stripe tickets for 1,2 and 5 trips with smart paper tickets based on MIFARE Ultralight ICs to serve ad hoc users. Since the introduction Moscow Metro has sold over 300 million tickets within one year.

The MIFARE-based system provides Moscow Metro with a variety of benefits compared to traditional paper or magnetic stripe tickets, such as increasing the performance of the terminals at the checkpoints and improving travellers’ convenience. Since the introduction of the system, Moscow Metro has been able to reduce the level of fraud by an order of magnitude as well as significantly drive down maintenance costs and operational expenses.

“Moscow Metro has been driving transport innovation since first we deployed smart card technology in 1999 and is proud to run the first entirely contactless ticketing system in the world. We have continually evolved our system based on the latest NXP technology”, said Vladimir Zhuchkov, director Fare Collection Department, Moscow Metro. “Smart paper tickets provide passengers with a simple, hassle-free journey across the entire Moscow Metro network providing the perfect solution for journeys.”

Electronic paper tickets are the ideal replacement for conventional single trip-ticketing in public transport based on magnetic stripes, paper tickets or coins. The MIFARE Ultralight IC provides operators with a cost-effective solution for smart paper tickets based on the worldwide leading MIFARE technology for contactless AFC systems. It not only reduces queuing time and enables quicker boarding and exiting for all passengers but also offers a more robust system and easy upgrade capabilities for transport operators.

“Moscow Metro’s AFC system, based on NXP’s family of MIFARE family of chips is a strong international reference of how innovative transport operators are benefiting from contactless technology compared to traditional ticketing systems based on paper and magnetic stripes. These systems offer a clear return on investment for operators and also significantly improve the travelling experience for passengers”, said Henri Ardevol, general manager, automatic fare collection, NXP Semiconductors. “MIFARE Ultralight provides a flexible, easy to use and reliable chip solution for electronic smart paper ticketing in public transport, as well as for other cost-sensitive contactless applications such as event ticketing.”

MIFARE Ultralight is certified to the ISO 14443A standard, is fully compatible with the existing MIFARE infrastructure and can be easily integrated into existing schemes.

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For a system that has such wonderful architecture in its stations, it's rolling stock sure looks unworthy.
I like the contrast. Plus, from the outside especailly, the rolling stock looks like they were built at the same time as the first line...
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The art train of Moscow's metro:

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55 years of Circle line:

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i don't know what line you call main, but no. it's not really necessary as the system is very well ventilated.
That's a very incorrect statement. Yes, the system is pretty well ventilated, but it is unbearable to stay in train during rush-hours. Air-conditionning is a must.
There may be some contre-arguments like: air-conditionning will heat up stations etc. but they don't work. There are many places in the world with higher tempartures and air-conditionned trains. Secondly, passengers are more likely to spend their time in trains, not in stations.
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There are many places in the world with higher tempartures and air-conditionned trains.
They usually have air conditioned stations as well...
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That's a very incorrect statement. Yes, the system is pretty well ventilated, but it is unbearable to stay in train during rush-hours. Air-conditionning is a must.
There may be some contre-arguments like: air-conditionning will heat up stations etc. but they don't work. There are many places in the world with higher tempartures and air-conditionned trains. Secondly, passengers are more likely to spend their time in trains, not in stations.
Is you statement that "it is unbearable " based on your personla experience in Moscow or you have extrapolated from some other systems you have been on?

I have used Moscow metro for many years during rush hour and it never was "unbearable". Moscow is a cold city, appreciably colder than Tokyo, New York, London, Paris, Beiging, HK etc. Temperatures underground may become higher than comfortable for only very limited time in summer months. Even during these times it does not exceed 25C - nothing to compare with >40C and 90% humidity you can easily get in NYC during a heat wave.

Argument against immediate introduction of air-conditioned trains actually work.

Air-conditioning adds a lot more heat to the tunnels and stations. Therefore, one first needs to improve ventialtion of the system to remove this heat, and only after that air-contitioned trains can be utilised. This is precisely what is happening in Moscow - they are now upgrading ventilation shafts. They do have plans for air-conditioned trains after ventilation upgrade.

Heat managment of is not a problem on above ground lines and less of a problem on lines that are built just under surface level. But how many lines that are built completely deep undeground use air-conditioned trains? Please provide example of at least one. Please do not use those examples where tunnnel and station air volumes are separated by screen, like on Japanese and Chinese systems.

Another way to deal with heat is to decrease the amount of heat generated in the system . Significant amount comes from breaking system. Regenerative breaking (return of electricity to the line during breaking) reduces heat dissipation. This is also being implemented, and obviously will take years.
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Old March 27th, 2009, 03:54 AM   #378
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Current status on west APL extension
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Moscow metro development (1935-2002)



http://www.karta-metro.ru/map/1935-2002.php




and another link, where you have to use slide bar to move in time:

http://metro.deeptext.ru/
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