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Old February 15th, 2017, 02:23 PM   #4121
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Ah, I see. So like what the NYC Subway has been doing on the F and N services, where trains skip stops in one direction and you double back?
I don't know how it realized in NYC Subway. But yes - the trains of one direction not make stops at side platform which is currently under reconstruction, but the trains of opposite direction are making stops at the other platform. So, if you need to exit at this station, but its side platform is under reconstruction, you must to ride to the next station, then change direction and ride back - to the other side platform of the needed station in order to exit to the street.

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And re Park Pobedy - just to be sure, there is a connection between platforms at or near platform level, right?
Sure. Previously, there was no direct exit from one of two underground halls - it was necessary to made transfer to the other underground hall (see staircases at left side of first photo) and then to ride on the escalators in order to exit. It was some uncomfortable - especially during Victory Day when there is always crowds of people at this station who want to exit in order to watch traditional gun salute and take part in celebrations. And very soon this underground hall will also have direct exit - at the place where previously was located enamel panel dedicated to Soviet Victory in WWII.







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Old February 15th, 2017, 03:02 PM   #4122
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huh, how come they put more metro lines in operations during the last few years and had all the developers ?

p.s not enough construction employees or not enough firms ?
There are much more under construction now. 3 lines, one major expansion and one smaller expansion. Hence they hire Chinese and Spanish developers. All Russian developers are busy on their objects.
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Old February 15th, 2017, 04:57 PM   #4123
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The pedant in me says that the images in the Victory Park station appear to be of railway artillery, not armored trains, which are something slightly different.

Also, at Park Pobedy, are they removing the panel that says 1945 or the other panel with what looks like Napoleon? Because the former is much more beautiful. It would be a shame to remove it.
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Old February 15th, 2017, 05:45 PM   #4124
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The pedant in me says that the images in the Victory Park station appear to be of railway artillery, not armored trains, which are something slightly different.
I guess you meant Minskaya station. May be, you are right (I'm not specialist in military technics).

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Also, at Park Pobedy, are they removing the panel that says 1945 or the other panel with what looks like Napoleon? Because the former is much more beautiful. It would be a shame to remove it.
The panel depicts heroes of the Patriotic War of 1812 against Napoleon's Grande Arme will stays at its place. They removed panel dedicated to Soviet Victory in WWII. Its fate is still unknown for now. I agree with you that this panel is more beautiful than other one (although many people thinks that it's kitschy tackiness and should be removed). For me, the better solution would be to place this panel to the opposite end of this underground hall or at least to place it in the vestibule. However, I don't know that officials think about it.



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Old February 17th, 2017, 09:47 PM   #4125
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The end of an era

Moscow Metro to Lose Iconic Escalator Attendants

https://themoscowtimes.com/news/mosc...tendants-57186



The article says Moscow metro has 649 escalators. A press release from the Madrid metro from earlier this week says Madrid has 1,698 escalators in its metro.

https://www.metromadrid.es/en/comuni...noticia05.html
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Old February 18th, 2017, 10:00 AM   #4126
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Park Pobedy is the most deepest Metro station in Moscow (depth - 74 m). It was opened in 2003 with two underground halls and one escalator tunnel. The existing escalators are second longest in the world (length - 126 m). In the whole world, only Admiralteyskaya Metro station in St. Petersburg has longer escalators (length - 137 m).



The new escalator tunnel was built parallel to existing one.
how much escalators have that station now?
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Old February 19th, 2017, 06:38 AM   #4127
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how much escalators have that station now?
8 escalators (4 escalators in the each of two parallel escalator tunnels).

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The article says Moscow metro has 649 escalators. A press release from the Madrid metro from earlier this week says Madrid has 1,698 escalators in its metro.[/url]
This is the full list of escalators of Moscow Metro. In general, there are 686 escalators (not including 18 escalators of the Moscow Monorail).
https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Список...на
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Old February 19th, 2017, 10:23 AM   #4128
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How can it be that Madrid metro has more than double the number of escalators despite Moscow metro being longer overall? I guess despite some famous deep underground stations Moscow also has a large number of surface stations. Is that so?
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How can it be that Madrid metro has more than double the number of escalators despite Moscow metro being longer overall? I guess despite some famous deep underground stations Moscow also has a large number of surface stations. Is that so?
As of 2016, the Moscow Metro excluding the Moscow Central Circle (31 stations) and Moscow Monorail (6 stations) has 203 stations, but only 147 stations have escalators. Moscow Metro has many shallow stations that are just below the underpass. Moscow subway lines have a few open areas.

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8 escalators (4 escalators in the each of two parallel escalator tunnels).


This is the full list of escalators of Moscow Metro. In general, there are 686 escalators (not including 18 escalators of the Moscow Monorail).
https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Список...на
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How can it be that Madrid metro has more than double the number of escalators despite Moscow metro being longer overall? I guess despite some famous deep underground stations Moscow also has a large number of surface stations. Is that so?
Maybe it's because moscow metro have longer escalators?

IE: Moscow for a 30m depth station using 1 escalator and madrid 2 for same type of station.
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Old February 19th, 2017, 03:34 PM   #4131
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One more question that just hit me - how many stations in Moscow are handicap accessible? It seems like they have the same issues as London where it's almost impossible to add lifts in some places.
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Old February 19th, 2017, 07:23 PM   #4132
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Maybe it's because moscow metro have longer escalators?

IE: Moscow for a 30m depth station using 1 escalator and madrid 2 for same type of station.
It's impossible to have only 1 escalator at Metro stations built at 30-metres depth At such deep-level stations, there are 4 (rather - 3) escalators built in one escalator tunnel.



I guess it's because there are many shorter and cheaper escalators of more simple type (so-called "floor escalators") at the transfers of the Madrid Metro.



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Old February 19th, 2017, 09:40 PM   #4133
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It's impossible to have only 1 escalator at Metro stations built at 30-metres depth At such deep-level stations, there are 4 (rather - 3) escalators built in one escalator tunnel.

The escalator second from left, facing the camera directly. Does it actually have steps? I can't tell.
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How can it be that Madrid metro has more than double the number of escalators despite Moscow metro being longer overall? I guess despite some famous deep underground stations Moscow also has a large number of surface stations. Is that so?
In addition to what others have said, some facts can explain this difference:

- Density of the network: Madrid metro is 292 km long and has 290 stations, while Moscow metro is 337 km long but only has 203 stations. The more stations a network has, a higher number of escalators is needed.

- Type of stations: In Madrid metro most stations have two side platforms, and there are even a few stations with three platforms (with an island and two side platforms), while in Moscow many stations have just an island platform.

- Type of escalators: In Madrid metro (and generally speaking in Spanish metros) there are many more short escalators than in Russian metros (even shorter than the ones posted by Gulliver1.93m).

Hence, in Madrid it's common to see stations with many escalators, especially when they're transfer stations. Colombia station (L8 and L9), for instance, has at least 20 escalators, and it's not a particularly deep station: each line has two side platforms and those of L8 are placed on top of those of L9 forming 90 degrees angles. From each platform there's a direct access to both platforms of the other line consisting of two sets of escalators each (to go up or to go down), which means there are 8 escalators just to transfer between both lines. The hall is placed on top of L8 platforms, connected with the latter with 4 more sets of 2 escalators (2 sets from each L8 platform). And between the hall and the four different accesses of the station there are at least 4 more escalators, even though they don't reach street level (there are elevators and normal stairs).
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I guess it's because there are many shorter and cheaper escalators of more simple type (so-called "floor escalators") at the transfers of the Madrid Metro.



This is what i mean with longer/shorter escalators
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The pedant in me says that the images in the Victory Park station appear to be of railway artillery, not armored trains, which are something slightly different.
As knowing people explained at one popular forum, these images at Metro station Minskaya contains mix of elements of different exhibits of military technics which is presented at the Victory Park (such as armored train with plate and transporter of artillery).







http://forum.nashtransport.ru/index....c=49306&st=360
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The tempo increased. The third 81-765 train arrives.

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March 9, 2017. Nizhnyaya Maslovka station (Third Interchange Contour) near Savyolovsky Rail Terminal.



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March 11, 2017. Petrovsky Park (Third Interchange Contour).



VTB Arena, formerly - Central Dynamo Stadium (left) and Petrovsky Park itself (right)



Leningrad Avenue and yellow vestibule of Metro station Dynamo (1938; Line 2).





There will be interchange between Petrovsky Park and Dynamo stations.







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March 11, 2017. TsSKA (CSKA) station (Third Interchange Contour)





The glass tower of VEB Arena (formerly - CSKA Arena), the new home stadium of PFC CSKA Moscow (right).

















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