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Old January 31st, 2010, 12:27 AM   #541
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Personally, I wish the new metro trains being designed for Piter would also be used for Moscow. IMO, they look better than the Rusich trains.
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Old February 1st, 2010, 02:22 AM   #542
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+1. Rusich trains look horrible
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Old February 2nd, 2010, 09:20 AM   #543
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If You think that this train from the photo is horrible, what would You say about this: http://www.vagonmash.ru/en_products-2-3.htm . O my god...how they can just stick a new plastic, and still horrible front to completely old rest.
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Old February 2nd, 2010, 12:51 PM   #544
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Old February 2nd, 2010, 03:52 PM   #545
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If You think that this train from the photo is horrible, what would You say about this: http://www.vagonmash.ru/en_products-2-3.htm . O my god...how they can just stick a new plastic, and still horrible front to completely old rest.
It's not TM Holding. MVM was never been producing 81-5xx series, but only 81-7xx series. For Warsaw it has 81-714.3 and 81-717.3.

They do what the client tell them to do, not what they want. There is the order from client with all necessary parameters for new cars.

As of exterior design. Vagonmash is very well known for being bad designers.
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Old February 2nd, 2010, 04:57 PM   #546
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IIRC the Warsaw Metro wanted trains that would work with their existing Russian types. Wikipedia says:
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Initially, all of the trains were Russian built. They first arrived in Warsaw in 1990 as a gift from the USSR, five years prior to the Metro's opening, from Metrovagonmash plant in Mytishchi (near Moscow) (model 81-717.3/714.3 - 10 carriages). Subsequent trains arrived from Saint Petersburg's Yegorov Plant in 1994 (81-572/573 - 32 carriages) and additional 18 81-572.1/573.1 carriages in 1997.

In 1998, 108 new carriages were ordered from Alstom. These were all delivered by 2005 (24 were produced in Barcelona and the rest in Chorzów). In 2006 additional carriages were ordered from Russia, with deliveries taking place during 2007, to lengthen the existing trains using older Russian carriages.
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Old February 6th, 2010, 10:27 PM   #547
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Moscow has metro as well, not subway
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Old February 6th, 2010, 10:43 PM   #548
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Moscow has metro as well, not subway
what's the differense?
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Old February 7th, 2010, 12:37 AM   #549
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Old February 7th, 2010, 02:53 AM   #550
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what's the differense?
A subway is a pedestrian subsurface passage. See here:
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And a metro is a transport system. See here:
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Old February 7th, 2010, 01:08 PM   #551
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It depends. These definitions have more than just one meaning.
Subway can be just underground passage or metro.
Metro can be transportation means or metropolitan area.

In the most of the cases, subway=metro.
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Old February 7th, 2010, 01:59 PM   #552
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Old February 7th, 2010, 06:04 PM   #553
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what's the differense?
The name is the difference
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Old February 7th, 2010, 06:05 PM   #554
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Indeed. "What's in a name"...
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Old February 7th, 2010, 08:10 PM   #555
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The name is the difference
Wrong sign for Cologne! Cologne uses the same sign for it's Stadtbahn Berlin uses for it's U-Bahn. There are no U-Stadtbahn signs in Cologne.
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Old February 7th, 2010, 08:12 PM   #556
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The word "metropoliten" is derived from the word "metropolis" ("capital city"). In Russia, this term is considered as "underground city" alternative "ground city." In other words, the word "subway" or "underground" means the technical functionality, and the word "metro" refers to aesthetic role of underground Palaces for Peoples. For this reason many Muscovites don't like words "subway", "underground" or "Tube". In Moscow this words may be refer to a sewer, but not to the Metropoliten ! There are subways in London, NY or Paris, there is Metro in Moscow!
I agree, but there's no need to get supremacist about it.
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Old February 8th, 2010, 12:36 AM   #557
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Wrong sign for Cologne! Cologne uses the same sign for it's Stadtbahn Berlin uses for it's U-Bahn. There are no U-Stadtbahn signs in Cologne.
Thanks for the hint (though slightly off-topic here, you can also comment on the website itself)! I have corrected that.

EDIT: But in Bonn they have the U-Stadtbahn sign, don't they?

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Old March 19th, 2010, 07:02 AM   #558
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An approved mid-term and long-term metro development program. Short-term plan should be approved later this year.


Mid-term program.
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Long-term program.
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Old March 19th, 2010, 07:15 AM   #559
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Is there an ETA on the 81-760/761 trainset?

I look at those maps, then I look at the maps of the T here in Boston. I weep in despair.

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Old March 19th, 2010, 01:21 PM   #560
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an experimental 3-car trainset should be ready by may
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