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Old April 5th, 2006, 10:12 AM   #201
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Here is a pick of the construction from the Jin Mao Observation deck (It is about a week old)
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Old April 5th, 2006, 10:24 AM   #202
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Awesome pic. Thanks.
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Old April 5th, 2006, 10:31 AM   #203
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why are some floors higher then others?
It's just a simplified model. There are much fewer floors in it than in the actual building. Some floors have been combined.
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Old April 5th, 2006, 04:35 PM   #204
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im not sure about these new designs>

architects seem to be getting lazy and just sanding of the cnrs of square buildings and saying how wonderful there design looks. these two towers look like they have survived an earthquake with sides falling away. sorry
I agree...Not much architecture there
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Old April 5th, 2006, 04:45 PM   #205
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Cool, it's like "i'm coming to get ya!!!"
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Old April 5th, 2006, 10:15 PM   #206
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what a nice model....emmmm....
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Old April 5th, 2006, 11:23 PM   #207
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I felt it was about time to clear the air here....

The architect is not Pelli. The architect is actually the firm for which I am employed. (look it up, I know it's easy to find-- don't know if it is right for me to actually mention.) (I am hesitant to speak about the building from an insider's position-- for obvious legal and ethical positions-- but I will speak on information that I am sure is readily available to the public): The circle was changed to a rectangle after outcry on it's political undertones-- (look it up on the internet if you want more info). The reason for the hole in the first place is to relieve wind pressure caused from shearing the sides of the building.
In addition, the building's massing will be much improved after construction on the podium begins. The new design is pretty imprssive, I think you will like it...
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Old April 6th, 2006, 01:52 AM   #208
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I felt it was about time to clear the air here....

The architect is not Pelli. The architect is actually the firm for which I am employed. (look it up, I know it's easy to find-- don't know if it is right for me to actually mention.) (I am hesitant to speak about the building from an insider's position-- for obvious legal and ethical positions-- but I will speak on information that I am sure is readily available to the public): The circle was changed to a rectangle after outcry on it's political undertones-- (look it up on the internet if you want more info). The reason for the hole in the first place is to relieve wind pressure caused from shearing the sides of the building.
In addition, the building's massing will be much improved after construction on the podium begins. The new design is pretty imprssive, I think you will like it...
I guess they're talking about this one.

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OLD News: Shanghai: 320 meter twin towers by Cesar Pelli
Shanghai: A new outstanding project for Shanghai in Lujiazui zone. The project lead by Sun Hung Kai Properties Limited will be done in a 4,5 million square meter area and will stand near other landmark buildings in Shanghai, Oriental Pearl TV Towers, the Jin Mao Tower and the under-construction Shanghai’s World Financial Centre.

According to the plan the first phase of the project will be completed by the year 2008 with final completion expected for the year 2011.

Click on Lujiazui Development in Shanghai for more information.
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Old April 6th, 2006, 06:28 AM   #209
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seems there are construction going on the left and behind the SWFC. What are they?
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Old April 6th, 2006, 04:03 PM   #210
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I'm not trying to be negative here, but I think I will be quite dissapointed at the final result of the building, it'll be like Q1
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Old April 6th, 2006, 04:09 PM   #211
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Judging from the models, the concrete part of the column should start to taper ever so slightly, just after the blue scafolding at the top, where the brace meets the edge.
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Old April 6th, 2006, 04:57 PM   #212
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very much progress on it.
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Old April 6th, 2006, 06:37 PM   #213
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I'm not an architecture expert. just wondering what the core is used for after it's finished, for elevator and stair purpose? or it's nothing inside?
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Old April 6th, 2006, 07:37 PM   #214
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elevators, stairs, toilet, service purposes.
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Old April 6th, 2006, 08:39 PM   #215
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elevators, stairs, toilet, service purposes.
Thanks but isn't it a waste to use it that way? I saw from post #201 the core area is large and hollow.
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Old April 6th, 2006, 10:11 PM   #216
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Gentlemen, Are these developments natural or are these being pushed by the government to be completed in x number of years? The pictures show development to be very well organised so maybe it is a planned city?
i really don't see ANY cities on earth that have ever existed doesn't have some kind of urban plan behind it.
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Old April 6th, 2006, 10:24 PM   #217
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I think the reason why the concrete core is currently hallow is because they want to match the fast-pace speed of steel frame construction. It is much faster to build the outter shell of the concrete core first, and then mold the inner walls/ floor plates later on. I think this method easily save them at least 6 months.
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Old April 7th, 2006, 02:49 AM   #218
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It would be pretty cool if they gave an especific day for opening day, not just the year. What I don't like about making the core hollow so it goes up at the same time as the frame, is that when the frame work and everything is done, it's going to look boring because the building would be done on the outside inside it's still being worked on. So you wouldn't see any construction, neither the building being finished.
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Old April 7th, 2006, 04:28 PM   #219
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any update?
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Old April 8th, 2006, 01:56 AM   #220
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