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Old March 10th, 2006, 09:19 PM   #1
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Another new skyscraper for London?

Just 1 week after we hear about the 190m+ 20 Fenchurch street proposal, news of a new 54 story tower for the isle of dogs (right next to canary wharf) has arrived

Courtesy of the almighty London Lad:

I found an article on building.co.uk about this scheme being designed by Sheppard Robson- This was briefly mentioned in the wharf & posted on here a while back. This article gives more details.

An interesting scheme, backed by the Mayor but they will need to convince TH to change their masterplan for the isle of dogs which they drew up with the outdated millenium quarter. They need to get some very good negotiators otherwise this may go the way of the taller Crossharbour tower & Asda towers which were both told were too tall.

Anyway- Here’s the most informative parts of the article :


"In London Docklands, Rowan Asset Management, manager of property fund The Merrion Fund and owner of the Glengall Bridge development fronting Millwall Dock, has produced a scheme that would not only provide some much needed housing for families and create a better environment for the surrounding community, but even more crucially could prove to be the catalyst for making the whole Millwall Dock area a more civic-minded and family-friendly environment.

Perhaps paradoxically, the suggested means of making the Docklands area more family-friendly is not to develop more low-rise buildings, but to build high. Architect Sheppard Robson's proposed scheme comprises a 54-storey tower and an accompanying eight-storey building as an alternative to groundscraper-style development.

Building higher allows for developer profit levels to be maintained, while giving away space around the building for public use. Sheppard Robson estimates that only 35% of the E E 0.8 ha Glengall Bridge site would be taken up by buildings, leaving 65% of the site for the public realm. The scheme's lower block would have family homes, in what would effectively be townhouses, backing onto three floors of leisure and training space with private apartments above. The taller tower would have commercial and office space on the lower four levels, then five floors of affordable housing, a 200,000 ft2 hotel, private residential and, at the top, a public viewing gallery. In all the scheme would have 270 private homes and 145 affordable homes - a third of the affordable homes would have three bedrooms, and 15% of them four bedrooms.

Fifty affordable family homes may not make much of a dent in the list of families waiting for homes in Tower Hamlets, but the approach might not stop at one site. Rowan Asset Management has commissioned a study looking at how the principles could be extended. Around Millwall Dock a number of other sites could come forward for redevelopment over the next 15 years, and if the same approach were applied, there could be the potential for bigger change.

Urban Strategies, the North American urban designer, has been appointed to work on a framework study for the broader Millwall Dock area, alongside Sheppard Robson, planning consultant DP9, cost consultant EC Harris and building engineering and transportation consultant Arup. Urban Strategies partner Michel Trocme says of the area: "When you are working with cities, it is difficult go back and start afresh, but it is interesting to think of what you might have done with London Docklands when the docks closed. Millwall Dock provides a wonderful opportunity to create a waterfront amenity as the heart and soul of the island. Canary Wharf has an iconic presence, and is a success as a place because there was a vision. At Millwall Dock, because of a lack of vision in planning, each development has responded to the dock as a back edge. When you add the buildings up, you are left with something quite mediocre."

If other sites around the dock followed Glengall Bridge's principle, the dock's hostile pathways would be replaced by bigger open E E spaces, more pleasant pedestrian routes, a local shopping "high street" that would be more useful than the small-scale single shops or leisure clubs integrated into residential developments across the island and, it is hoped, more people.

"The dock is geographically at the heart of the island so it makes sense for it to be the heart of the community," argues Claire Treanor, partner with planning consultant DP9. Alan Shingler, associate with Sheppard Robson, adds: "Once you have made the leap to allow taller buildings along the dock edge, then you can enliven the space between the buildings with facilities to suit the community's needs. Cafes, local shops, education and training facilities surround landscaped pockets of public open space promoting routes and views through to the water."

Tower Hamlets council has opted to adopt an earlier masterplan for the area for its Area Action Plan, which dictates lower rise buildings around Glengall Bridge. But Rowan Asset Management is setting out its case for this alternative style of development to the local authority. Shingler says: "The concept of creating open space for the public is the key to our representations to the AAP, because unless the height constraint along the dock is reconsidered, we will end up with more groundscraper buildings creating a barrier to the water."

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Old March 10th, 2006, 09:35 PM   #2
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WOW!!!
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Old March 10th, 2006, 09:52 PM   #3
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London now has a grand total of 29 projects over 500ft.
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Old March 10th, 2006, 11:12 PM   #4
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Id like to know the physics behind this building. How everything works and stands up
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Old March 11th, 2006, 01:06 AM   #5
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Very Cool !!!!
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Old March 11th, 2006, 02:00 AM   #6
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The architects behind this scheme proposed another sloping tower in the city of London a few years ago (200m) but sadly the proposal was ditched for a much smaller scheme.


http://www.sheppardrobson.com/projec...PageNumber%3D1

This new scheme will have a lot of obstacles to overcome such as being totaly against the local authoritys planning masterplan & it will come under strong local attack as residents at this end of the Isle of dogs do not like high rises & have succesfully seen the cross harbour tower been scaled back from 170m to 131m- BUT hey a lot of things are changing in London these last few years so you never know it might get through.
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Old March 11th, 2006, 02:26 AM   #7
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It looks like a new version of BoC.I like it a lot
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Old March 11th, 2006, 02:30 AM   #8
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That will actually make an awesome difference to the CW area. Where exactly in relation to the main cluster is this.... will it extend it or be a bit out on its own?
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Old March 11th, 2006, 02:59 AM   #9
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London rocks!!!
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Old March 11th, 2006, 05:10 AM   #10
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Nice one!
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Old March 11th, 2006, 11:22 AM   #11
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It is a very interesting proposal, its had rather a mixed response in ye olde British forums
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Old March 11th, 2006, 02:34 PM   #12
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Quote:
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That will actually make an awesome difference to the CW area. Where exactly in relation to the main cluster is this.... will it extend it or be a bit out on its own?
It will stand to the south, which will make a hell of a difference to the view from Greenwich shown below. That's assuming it's approved at the current height, of course... which in my opinion is unlikely, for the reasons London Lad has given.



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Old March 11th, 2006, 03:19 PM   #13
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Old March 11th, 2006, 05:26 PM   #14
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I think it's nice
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Old March 11th, 2006, 07:29 PM   #15
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I think it can llok good. I'm not a fan of glass thats non-reflective on big buildings though. Makes them look a bit tacky. I think with the design... the sort of glass used on the bank of china, HK would be good.
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Old March 11th, 2006, 07:43 PM   #16
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wjfox, where in that pic would the tower stand?
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Old March 11th, 2006, 07:49 PM   #17
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Looking at the map.... is it kinda near where i have pan peninsula?

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Old March 11th, 2006, 08:03 PM   #18
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Canary Wharf gets better, but I guess it needs more highrises to be the best, this new proposal is just a good edition and I think it's not end, I'm looking forward the new ones
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Further to the south than that. It would appear slightly to the left of 1 Canada Square in the photo I posted, and would be the closest and most prominent tower in that view.
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Old March 11th, 2006, 08:24 PM   #20
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Ahh, so it is quite a way from the main cluster then??
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