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Old October 25th, 2007, 06:38 AM   #2061
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Yeah, I wanted to say that, but thought it abit innappropriate given that they might be what you guys are getting. They look sort of Soviet Bloc circa 1960. I usually like silver metallic, but these need to be painted. I agree that all white would be a good choice.
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Old October 25th, 2007, 07:47 AM   #2062
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no one outside will really see the trains - 75% or more of the line is underground

no reason to prettify them
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Old October 25th, 2007, 07:55 AM   #2063
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no one outside will really see the trains - 75% or more of the line is underground

no reason to prettify them
it's more like 55%. About 10 kms is underground, and 9 kms is elevated/at-grade.

even so, are people not going to see the trains in the underground stations?
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Old October 25th, 2007, 09:28 PM   #2064
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Those trains are disappointingly ugly... and I hear they're Korean... are we sure which Korea they're coming from? They look a little Soviet to me, hehe. And while a lot of the system is underground, people will see these trains - the tens of thousands people who will be riding this system every day will see that beautiful matte gray metal every time they board the train. Of course, they'll see the snazzy front ends of the train as they roll up to the platform, but since the platforms aren't as long as they trains are, pretty much the only thing that'll be visible when boarding the train is gonna be a nasty metal wall. Are we sure that the trains in the photos above are the finished product, in terms of the exterior? It seems ridiculous, especially since they bothered to paint the existing rolling stock for the other two lines.
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Old October 25th, 2007, 09:36 PM   #2065
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Don't worry our trains won't look plain, they'll be wrapped with an advertising wrap. No point wasting money on paint when the trains will be constantly wrapped.
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Old October 25th, 2007, 09:40 PM   #2066
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Those trains are disappointingly ugly...and I hear they're Korean... are we sure which Korea they're coming from?
That's a good way of putting it. Agree 100%. I'm not sure why people argue that subway cars don't have to look good. If your eyeball gets a glimpse, it needs to look good. Doesn't matter if it is for 60 seconds or 30 seconds. It has to look good. Things like subway cars especially so. People have to look at these things every single day, sometimes many times a day. They are one of the faces of your city, not just for locals, but for tourists.

It matters!
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Old October 25th, 2007, 10:31 PM   #2067
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Breakfast Television (CityTV) had their latest exclusive live segments from the Canada Line again this morning.
The parts I saw showed progress on the Middle Arm Bridge and live broadcasts from atop and inside the King Edward Station (the station roof is being poured soon). The platforms looked reasonably spacious and the columns are set back a good distance from the edge of the platform.
They mentioned that Cambie from 29th Ave to 39th Ave. will reopen in the next couple weeks. They also mentioned that a couple of cross streets near 22nd Ave. or so have already reopened.
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Old October 25th, 2007, 11:21 PM   #2068
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Those trains are disappointingly ugly... and I hear they're Korean... are we sure which Korea they're coming from? They look a little Soviet to me, hehe. And while a lot of the system is underground, people will see these trains - the tens of thousands people who will be riding this system every day will see that beautiful matte gray metal every time they board the train. Of course, they'll see the snazzy front ends of the train as they roll up to the platform, but since the platforms aren't as long as they trains are, pretty much the only thing that'll be visible when boarding the train is gonna be a nasty metal wall. Are we sure that the trains in the photos above are the finished product, in terms of the exterior? It seems ridiculous, especially since they bothered to paint the existing rolling stock for the other two lines.
That's not the finished product. I have seen renderings of what the livery design looks like for the train...they are only painting the front and back ends of the train with a blue/white swoosh design. They are leaving nearly all of the sides the way they are - grey stainless steel.





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Breakfast Television (CityTV) had their latest exclusive live segments from the Canada Line again this morning.
The parts I saw showed progress on the Middle Arm Bridge and live broadcasts from atop and inside the King Edward Station (the station roof is being poured soon). The platforms looked reasonably spacious and the columns are set back a good distance from the edge of the platform.
They mentioned that Cambie from 29th Ave to 39th Ave. will reopen in the next couple weeks. They also mentioned that a couple of cross streets near 22nd Ave. or so have already reopened.
that's great to hear. where exactly are these columns?
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Old October 25th, 2007, 11:38 PM   #2069
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SkyTrain vending machines vandalized

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Published: Thursday, October 25, 2007

METRO VANCOUVER - SkyTrain ticket vending machines are unable to accept debit and credit cards today because vandalism shut down their customer service telephone connections on Wednesday night.

"It's very serious," said TransLink spokesman Drew Snider.

"We don't know how long its going to take to repair."

Until their telephone service is back up, he said, ticket vending machines at all 33 SkyTrain locations will only be able to accept cash.

They can also validate tickets.

On Thursday morning SkyTrain staff put up signs letting customers know about the problem, said Snider.

TransLink's telephone service provider, Allstream, is working to repair service to the vandalized phone lines, he said.

The service outage also means that calls to TransLink's customer service and customer relations are not going through.
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Old October 26th, 2007, 01:09 AM   #2070
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good at least vancouver is lucky that its getting a new metro project on the roll
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Old October 26th, 2007, 01:23 AM   #2071
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that's great to hear. where exactly are these columns?
Set back to the opening where the stairs go down to the lower platform - so at the back edge of the platform. In this pic from Tafryn, you can see the columns. The column on the right is at the back of the platform and the space between the columns is the space where the stairs between levels are located.



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Just noticed this on Jim's Construction Gallery at the Canada Line website - the side excavations are for Emergency stair towers. There are a lot of them on the stacked section. Not sure where they end up - i.e. in the sidewalk?



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Old October 26th, 2007, 04:42 AM   #2072
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The service outage also means that calls to TransLink's customer service and customer relations are not going through.
No... 604-953-3333 still worked yesterday unelss it was fixed before I called...

I have to say that people have no life... sigh...
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Old October 26th, 2007, 04:50 AM   #2073
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Set back to the opening where the stairs go down to the lower platform - so at the back edge of the platform. In this pic from Tafryn, you can see the columns. The column on the right is at the back of the platform and the space between the columns is the space where the stairs between levels are located.
i was just about to say the same thing as well lol.
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Old October 26th, 2007, 06:02 AM   #2074
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I don't have a video nor an actual article, but Kevin Falcon hinted that there will be MAJOR changes to the Skytrain system. He will be travelling to Britain (why not HK) to see their transportation network as well as their smart card system, Oyster Card, and will be studying the fare gate system...

Edit: check globaltvbc.com... omg look at the ticket cheats stats =O

According to Global TV Report of the future SkyTrain system (or hinted) by Kevin Falcon:
*New Gated Entrances for SkyTrain system (not sure if it is turnstile)
*Modeled on "Oyster Card" (I still question why not Octopus Card, it's much more sucessful)
*Private company to build the facilities (I'm guessing building the expansion of SkyTrain stations because most stations don't have room for a gate.., such as 29th Avenue...)
*New system carckdown on fare evaders

I highly advise all of u to watch it.

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Old October 26th, 2007, 06:11 AM   #2075
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Just noticed this on Jim's Construction Gallery at the Canada Line website - the side excavations are for Emergency stair towers. There are a lot of them on the stacked section. Not sure where they end up - i.e. in the sidewalk?
I think those only connect the stacked tunnels to each other. They don't actually go to the surface. In the side by side configuration they just have doors every few hundred meters connecting the tunnels. In an emergency, people can then evacuate to the other tunnel whether they are side by side or stacked.
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Old October 26th, 2007, 06:15 AM   #2077
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A couple pics from today I thought I'd share. Sorry they're not very big (camera phone).


Tunnel Portal

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Launching Girder Relocation

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North Arm Bridge

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Old October 26th, 2007, 07:43 AM   #2078
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^ thanks for posting.

the tunnel portal looks great. and did they change the design? i thought there was supposed to be a concrete box surrounding the portal? i'm assuming it will now be replaced by fencing?

looks better right now than the consultation material.


and it looks like the two guideway sections of the two North Arm Bridge towers are about to connect...and they've also started to install cables onto the north tower.
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Old October 26th, 2007, 07:49 AM   #2079
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omg...i never realized there were that many fines handed out each year - and i was extremely surprised at how just a tiny fraction of those that were fined actually payed their fine.

regardless of operational and capital costs, i'm all for fare gates.


GlobalBC data:

2006
- 30,300 fines issued
- 2,600 paid
- 400 partially paid
- 24,600 not paid


2007 (as of this month)
- 1,800 paid
- 100 partially paid
- 12,100 not paid
- at $150 a fine, that means $5.5 million is not going to Translink



But when will it be done? They say "in a few months", so i'm assuming that means it'll be announced in the next few months...hopefully, done by 2010.
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More pics from Tafryn Oct. 22:


Sea Island Centre Station
















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