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Old November 1st, 2007, 11:12 PM   #2101
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New TransLink board seen as 'erosion of democracy'
Power to raise property taxes

Frank Luba, The Province
Published: Thursday, November 01, 2007

Democracy will be the loser when the province changes how TransLink is run, according to Simon Fraser University political science professor Patrick Smith.

Legislative debate on Bill 43, which turns the Greater Vancouver Transportation Authority into the South Coast British Columbia Transportation Authority, resumes next week.

Smith objects to the "erosion of local democracy" represented by the proposed nine-member board of industry professionals that will run TransLink.

Like the current board of elected municipal politicians, the new appointed board will be able to raise property taxes, change taxation classifications, accumulate property and run its own police force.

A council of regional mayors will meet quarterly but will only vote on supplements to the base plan proposed by the new board, which is supposed to take office Jan 1.

"You're creating this significant regional agency which will have significant decision-

making powers and removing it from local accountability," Smith said yesterday.

"It fails the democracy test," he said. "It's designed to have [Transportation Minister Kevin Falcon's] agenda move forward with the fewest hiccups."

Municipal legal expert Jonathan Baker is also critical.

"I think it fails the administrative test," said Baker, a lawyer and former Vancouver city councillor. "It seems outrageous that you have an appointed body doing that sort of thing.

"It seems to me the public should have the right to vote out of power someone that levies a property tax if they don't like it. Didn't someone once say that taxation without representation is tyranny?"

But the government believes the new structure is better.

"I would argue better accountability because every single mayor is involved now," said Falcon. "Every single mayor will have the opportunity to participate in the construction of the alternate 10-year plan, the strategic plan.

"They will be the ones to vote on whether to accept the alternative plan or just continue operating on the base plan they have in place today.

"Under the new model, any new tax measures will have to be authorized and approved by the mayors' council and that's all of the mayors represented on that council."

In addition to the mayors' council, there will also be an independent transit commissioner to investigate TransLink's plans and fare increases.

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Old November 2nd, 2007, 06:12 AM   #2102
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Group of teenage girls swarm female transit bus driver
Thursday, November 01 - 03:30:34 PM Mike Hanafin

VANCOUVER (NEWS1130) - Vancouver Police are investigating a disturbing swarming attack on a transit bus driver last night in East Vancouver. Police say it happened after the woman driver stopped at Commerical Drive and Napier around 10:30 pm.

Police say when she offered Halloween candy to a group of teenage girls, they dragged her out of the bus and beat her up, with 2 teenage girls wearing Santa Suits doing most of the assaulting. The VPD says it was unprovoked, with no evidence the bus driver did anything to trigger the assault. The driver was traumatized but police report no serious injuries.

Drew Snider with TransLink says the incident brings up the ongoing issue of driver safety. "We have been taking measures with the union and other experts to improve that. One of the things we're doing is bringing in a new radio transmission system, which will allow drivers to communicate immediately if there's a threat to their safety."

About an hour later, the same vacant bus was lit on fire while it was waiting to be driven back to the TransLink garage. Police say early indications show the fire was intentionally set. Graffiti was also written on the bus. Both the police and fire departments are investigating.





This is simply a disgusting act.
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Old November 2nd, 2007, 06:17 AM   #2103
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^ it's terrible, i hope those people are found and get jail time. this just means that transit drivers might get their own "cage" in the buses.

btw, from the pictures it looks like it was a $1.2 million new trolley that was set on fire.
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Old November 2nd, 2007, 06:37 AM   #2104
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how do we know that's a trolley?
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Old November 2nd, 2007, 06:42 AM   #2105
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how do we know that's a trolley?
the paint scheme, the tires, the rear, and the fact it happened on Commercial - lots of trolleys.
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Old November 2nd, 2007, 08:42 AM   #2106
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It was a trolley. Less than 6 months on the road...I hope they find these people and make them pay for the cost of a new trolley doing forced labour in a 3rd world prison...
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Old November 2nd, 2007, 08:47 AM   #2107
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the paint scheme, the tires, the rear, and the fact it happened on Commercial - lots of trolleys.

The rear yeah it's a trolley XD... I have to say the paint scheme one is wrong though... there are so many buses with that paint scheme =) Sigh but that paint scheme means New Flyer... which means squeaky buses HAHA I'm going off topic.
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wow that is completely outrageous. who would do something like that
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Old November 2nd, 2007, 08:06 PM   #2109
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It was a trolley. Less than 6 months on the road...I hope they find these people and make them pay for the cost of a new trolley doing forced labour in a 3rd world prison...
Agreed.
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Old November 3rd, 2007, 12:56 AM   #2110
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I've seen that pack of girls before. They act more thug-like than many of the pimps and dealers in DTES. These girls should be incarcerated...or sent to Bountiful, BC.
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Old November 3rd, 2007, 01:59 AM   #2111
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I've seen that pack of girls before. They act more thug-like than many of the pimps and dealers in DTES. These girls should be incarcerated...or sent to Bountiful, BC.
what do you mean you've seen them? what are they like???

i heard they were aboriginal.
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Old November 3rd, 2007, 04:18 AM   #2112
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If you have seen them before, please contact the police and let them know where. Even if it's a hunch (you can't get into any trouble even if it turns out to be incorrect). I sure hope the officer has a taser on hand and they end up resisting arrest...
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oh yeah that hsould be used right now... perfect timing...
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Old November 3rd, 2007, 10:11 AM   #2114
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I bet you it was the same pack of girls (i doubt they're human) that attack that couple a few years back.
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Old November 3rd, 2007, 10:30 AM   #2115
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From CanadaLine.ca:


The Launching Girder (truss) known as LG1, sits on the east side of Cambie Street at 64th Avenue awaiting re-assembly. Upon re-assembly elevated guideway work will begin at the Tunnel Portal and will move south to the Fraser River where the guideway will connect with the Canada Line’s North Arm Bridge.



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what do you mean you've seen them? what are they like???

i heard they were aboriginal.

at commercial and napier.... thats a pretty educated guess
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Old November 3rd, 2007, 11:24 AM   #2117
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at commercial and napier.... thats a pretty educated guess
then you should really call the VPD, or the Crime Stoppers hotline.
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Don't worry VPD knows who they are and where they can be found. They are building the case as we speak. Unfortunately I don't expect the outcome will be fitting enough.
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then you should really call the VPD, or the Crime Stoppers hotline.

and i could tell them that i seen some natives o'er on commercial...


i wasnt the guy who said he knows them or has seen them im just rambling
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Old November 4th, 2007, 07:23 AM   #2120
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