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Old December 7th, 2007, 11:47 AM   #2261
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....the Canada Line should have a main line that runs all the way to Richmond, and then a separate but operationally linked shuttle line would run between Bridgeport and YVR.
One condition of YVR providing its $300M in funding was that there be a 24 (or 25?) minute travel time from YVR to Waterfront. A transfer @ Bridgeport would breach that requirement.
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Old December 7th, 2007, 10:58 PM   #2262
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Aside from the platform length and station entrance problems, I think the Canada Line should have a main line that runs all the way to Richmond, and then a separate but operationally linked shuttle line would run between Bridgeport and YVR. Of course, this would require a third platform to be added to Bridgeport, but IMO it would be a better setup than an alternating split between the two destinations. It would work like the Singapore MRT line to the Changi airport.
I disagree. Why make airport passengers transfer? That's not going to get ridership to the airport. Direct routing the airport is important. Canada is way behind in providing rail service to its airports -Montreal and Toronto shoudl have had it years ago.

Look at London Five Airports in England - all served by rail from the city centre.

Heathrow Airport (the airport has 4 London Underground stations and 3 mainline rail stations)
- Heathrow Express non-stop every 15 min from Paddington Station
- Heathrow Connect stopping train every 30 minutes from Paddington Station
- London Underground every 4-6 minutes from Central London (Heathrow is served by a branch and passengers are not required to change to a shuttle to the airport at Acton Town)

Gatwick Airport
- Gatwick Express, non-stop every 15 minutes from Victoria Station
- Capital Connect, every 15 minutes to central London and to the north
- other mainline servies providing local and express services to towns and cities south of London
- Crosscountry - providing several trains a day to the north of England

Standstead Airport
- Stanstead Express - limited stop train every 15 minutes to Tottenham Hale Underground Station and to Liverpool Street Station in central London

Luton Airport
- Midland Mainline - limited stopping trains to London Euston Station and cities north of London
- Capital Connect- stopping and semi-fast trains to central London and south to the south coast

London City Airport
- Docklands Light Railway - trains every 8-10 minutes direct to Bank Underground Station in central London (again, a branch line, but travellers to the airport are not expected to change at Canning Town)
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Old December 8th, 2007, 04:04 AM   #2263
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See Phase II bus technology study by Translink, just released before the entity becomes a bureaucracy transferring land taxes to pay for transportation to the benefit of trucking firms ie. Gateway. Trucking firms even try to avoid the fuel taxes by buying their diesel in Abbotsford. So much for studies available to the public, but paid for the public, and so much for transportation choices made to enhance a liveable region.

http://www.translink.bc.ca/files/boa..._2_Results.pdf

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Old December 8th, 2007, 04:06 AM   #2264
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To be honest I think that if things are really messed up by 2020 in terms of crowding on the Canada Line (which obviously seems likely), a parallel route can be built, maybe even in addition to the arbutus corridor (LRT = equals good idea but too slow to really compete with the Canada Line for commuters). A route under granville would be a dream imo.
Granville is too close to Cambie, only two arterials away. If another north-south subway were to be built, it should be under Victoria Drive/Commercial, second to Main Street in terms of north-south ridership.
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Old December 8th, 2007, 10:49 PM   #2265
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Translink White Rock update.

When people think of White Rock they often think of the nice little city itself and a few hundred houses around the area but are they wrong.

For those of you who haven't been out here for a while the White Rock/ South Surrey population has balloned to its current 85,000. You hear much about Surrey's fast growth but what people don't reaalize is that much of that is happening in South Surrey.

Well needless to say transit has not kept up. They built a big and very nice free park and ride and during the day is ALWAYS packed so much so that people are actually parking further up King George and 152nd because they know they won't get a park but more importantly they won't get a seat. Made worse by the fact that the retirement population is very high down here.

5 years ago they increased frequency from every half hour during the day to every 20 minutes and the buses are more crowed then ever. What makes this much worse for ANY of the other buses in the whole system is that when you don't get a seat that means you are STANDING for 40 minutes til you get to Broadway! No other bus in the whole system has anything like that kind of standing because they have transfers or more importantly people get on and off but that's not the case with the 351 from White Rock. To add insult to injury if you want to get from downtown even on Fri/Sat the last bus leaves at 12midnight. So much for not drinking and driving.

Well I complained to a very sympathetic person on the customer complaint line at Translink and they are very much aware of the problem down here.
Well it seems that Translink is about to receive delviery of a whole lot of new buses this very month and many are highway buses that are used only on the 351 Cresent Beach, Ladner Station route and the WCE Bus-Train.
She said they said they had not yet determined which routes will get the new buses and better service but she said the 351 is very much near the top. She said they will be making a determination this month or early in early Jan due to Xmas holidays.

They will be emailing me so I will keep you aprised.
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Old December 9th, 2007, 11:15 PM   #2266
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Transit surplus may go toward 'clean' buses

Frank Luba, The Province
Published: Sunday, December 09, 2007

TransLink's outgoing board of directors may give transit users a special Christmas gift of 32 more "clean" buses at their last meeting Dec. 12.

Before an appointed board of professionals replaces them Jan. 1, the board could follow a staff recommendation and decide to direct a surplus that's $27.2 million higher than forecast to the new vehicles.

Based on September year-to-date results, the 2008 budget report indicates a 2007 year-end annual surplus of $75.4 million for a cumulative surplus of "close to $400 million."

Higher revenues (up $8.8 million) and lower debt servicing costs (down $22.1 million) provided the surplus.

The 32 new buses would be used across the region to help address greenhouse-gas emission issues.

They use alternative technologies and would provide 100,000 additional hours of service when they are delivered by the end of 2009, the report says.

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Old December 11th, 2007, 02:15 AM   #2267
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Anybody see the new buses (not 99/98 B-Line) with a large GPS screen beside the driver and the next station display in the "next stop" box? I just rode in one, it was a number P33xx C40LFR. Seems to work pretty good...but the screen goes dark for a minute or two sometimes.
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Old December 11th, 2007, 02:22 AM   #2268
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Are those the new electric buses with the "init" screens and have digital LED stop displays?
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Old December 11th, 2007, 05:26 AM   #2269
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No, it was a Compressed Natural Gas bus based in PoCo...it never said init and displayed the next stop pretty accurately (except for a minute or two when it was completely off).
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Old December 11th, 2007, 07:16 AM   #2270
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I don't beleive it!

As noted above I talked to someone at Translink about the poor service in White Rock/ South Surrey and I have already got follow-up call.
Again I discussed the issues down here and he said that they are receiving a whole slew of new buses and 351 is one the top priority routes.
He noted that service changes only happen 4 times a year so nothing would be done til April but he said that he would be very surprised if 351 frequency is not increased.

He also said that Translink is hoping to get much later service on nearly all routes within 18 months.

I am always bitching about Translink but I must say that I am both surprised and appreciative of how fast they contacted me back as a follow-up. I never thought I'd accuse Translink of good service but , atleast in this regard, stand corrected and humbled.
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Old December 11th, 2007, 11:59 AM   #2271
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Old December 12th, 2007, 03:35 AM   #2272
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No, it was a Compressed Natural Gas bus based in PoCo...it never said init and displayed the next stop pretty accurately (except for a minute or two when it was completely off).
hmm... I never bus to/in PoCo so don't know =P All I know is that it looks like the new automtated messages/bus locater/display system is "init" or has that logo on it, as seen with the new electric trolleys, Nova Buses, etc. Looks like TrasnLink won't use Simmens On Street ever again *wink*
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Old December 12th, 2007, 10:54 AM   #2273
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busses out of poco run in the tri cities and in new westminster and possibly... maple ridge? can anyone confirm that one?
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Old December 13th, 2007, 04:31 AM   #2274
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busses out of poco run in the tri cities and in new westminster and possibly... maple ridge? can anyone confirm that one?
yeah thats about it

they terminate at braid or lougheed station now

and there might be one that goes to Maple ridge? haven't been there in years but from what i recall the busses were Maple Ridge based and went to coq centre - they recently added one that connects with skytrain at Braid station

before the m line there were a number of routes that went downtown

but they now terminate at lougheed - i don't know if the 160 still runs but it ran along barnet hastings into downtown from coquitlam and there was a night service still is i think the 150? or soemthing
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Well, consider that 500,000 people travel along the Vancouver-Richmond corridor each day.
is that even possible? every day? that must include white rock and -people coming up from seattle
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Old December 13th, 2007, 09:14 AM   #2276
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Old December 14th, 2007, 12:38 AM   #2277
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yeah thats about it

they terminate at braid or lougheed station now

and there might be one that goes to Maple ridge? haven't been there in years but from what i recall the busses were Maple Ridge based and went to coq centre - they recently added one that connects with skytrain at Braid station

before the m line there were a number of routes that went downtown

but they now terminate at lougheed - i don't know if the 160 still runs but it ran along barnet hastings into downtown from coquitlam and there was a night service still is i think the 150? or soemthing
the 154 and 155 busses in new westminster are out of poco and i think they operate as an extension of the 159 or 169 to coquitlam center. the 160 still runs but its done around 1:30. night service to coquitlam runs until 3am out of downtown and follows broadway and lougheed to north road and then goes the route of the 97.
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VANCOUVER CITY CENTRE STATION

The ceiling of the platform level/floor of the concourse level has been poured and supports for the ceiling of the concourse level are now rising. You can also see the hole in the concourse floor for the escalator/staircase to the platform. It won't be long before they repave this area too.












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is that even possible? every day? that must include white rock and -people coming up from seattle
It might be. Arthur Laing is now notorious with traffic jams even in reverse traffic in the afternoon (I don't know why- so weird), and often it looks like a parking lot, from Granville and 70th all the way to near No.2 Rd bridge. Same with Oak St Bridge. Knight St bridge is always jammed from around 1430-1730h going to Vancouver. This also not to mention the just-as-bad situation for Queensborough Bridge.
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Screen captures from the Global Noon News coverage of the unveiling of the new SkyTrain Canada Line trainset. (Thank you nname for this link to the video)


The train.


The interior.


The seats.


The map of the line. We can't quite see downtown though, so we will have to wait a little longer to see how it illustrates the connection to the existing SkyTrain lines. You can see the twinned Expo and Millennium SkyTrain lines on the bottom right of the map. The new map does not show the #99 B-Line BRT route along Broadway, which is a surprising and unfortunate omission considering its importance.


Transport Minister Kevin Falcon looks like he is a happy camper. Who wouldn't enjoy unveiling new trains?
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