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Old April 12th, 2008, 09:14 AM   #2801
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Main Street Station - proposed floor plan




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Old April 12th, 2008, 09:20 AM   #2802
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Hmmm which way would they be extending the platforms then? I would guess West up to the #1. It would seem very stupid to rebuilt the new entrance, elevator, and escalator so that they can extend the platforms a few years later.


I just realized the new entrance isn't "fare gateable"
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Old April 12th, 2008, 10:45 AM   #2803
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Do you see those roof supporting columns? Column to column is 10m which means that the platform is 80m. (I measured it in AutoCAD).

The elevator shafts for the VanCity building is in the way going west. Perhaps another 12m to play with but we need 22m. If anything they're shortening the platform since right now part of the platform is used as a ticketting area. I really really hope they revised the drawings since the announcement.

On the West side, fare gates can go on grid line 6 and also exit only fare gates for the stairs. On the East side, fare gates would go on grid line A. The only problem is the Elevators, on both sides it's a free for all. Maybe they'd start introducing... you must have a valid fare to call the elevator. lol.

Broadway doesn't look like it's getting an extension but at least they left the south park free for future extension. Metrotown is getting an extension but for a different reason... so they can stagger the trains to give each train "more platform width"
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Old April 12th, 2008, 10:53 AM   #2804
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The planned Broadway Station renovations can be summarized as follows:

1) Station entrance on Broadway
- Remove existing 2 coiling grilles,
- Remove elevator,
- Relocate eletrical riser next to new elevator
- Install 2 new coiling grilles,
- Create a CRU

2) Centre stairs
- Reduce the width of the stairs, and install a new escalator

3) Centre of the station
- Accommodate the exist from Safeway and provide connection between Safeway and Station fire alarm systems
- Extend the concourse space by enclosing the currently exterior space to the south of the station
- Extend the concourse space by replacing west wall by glazing,
- Create 2 CRU's

4) South of the Station
- Remove existing emergency stairs,
- Create new stairs,
- Install a new elevator,
- Install 2 new coiling grilles.

5) General improvements
- improved lighting,
- improved signage/wayfinding,
- new flooring,
- replacing metal mesh screens with glass panels.

6) Other
- expanded passarelle between Broadway and Commercial Drive Stations
- expanded entry to Commercial Drive Station from Commercial Drive
- integration of adjacent paved area and implementation of customer amenities.

7) Cost
- $25 million



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Old April 14th, 2008, 04:54 AM   #2805
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Not much - most if it we know already, but some points that need attention: Queue Jumper for Bridgeport Exit before Oak Street Bridge & No Information on White Rock RapidBus [I didn't have time to ask them about this]



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Old April 14th, 2008, 05:28 AM   #2806
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SkyTrains to be built in Mexico

Frank Luba, The Province
Published: Sunday, April 13, 2008

New SkyTrain cars announced as part of a $150-million expansion of the TransLink fleet will be built by Canadian company Bombardier -- in Mexico.

The fleet expansion, aided by $47 million in provincial money, was decided on at the March 28 meeting of the new professional TransLink board held behind closed doors. Details were not revealed until the official announcement Friday.

The money will expand the current fleet of approximately 1,300 conventional buses and community shuttles by 103 "green" buses.

The purchase includes 20 articulated, zero-emission electric trolleys; 11 articulated, diesel-electric hybrid buses; and 72 standard-size diesel-electric coaches that burn 20-per-cent cleaner, according to TransLink, than its "clean" diesel or compressed natural gas buses.

Also part of the fleet expansion are 14 additional SkyTrain cars that will be in service by February 2010.

Already on order are 34 of the Mark II Bombardier cars. The additional cars will bump the fleet to 258 cars.

Doug Kelsey, who runs TransLink's rapid-transit division, said customers won't notice a difference between the previous Mark II vehicles built in a now-closed facility in Burnaby and the new Mexican Mark II. But there will be updates, like a newer linear-induction propulsion system.

Because there are so few SkyTrain systems, Bombardier only produces the cars when there is an order.

"It's highly expensive to shut it down and then start it up," said Kelsey of producing the cars, which cost about $3 million each.

"You want to keep the production run going," he said.

Kelsey explained that getting more trains will allow TransLink to run more four-car trains to address the congestion that plagues peak hours.

The combination of bus and SkyTrain expansion fits within the province's $14-billion provincial transit plan, according to Transportation Minister Kevin Falcon. "This is our first instalment of our new commitments in the provincial transit plan," said Falcon.

Despite the transit boost, the provincial government remains under fire from opponents of the Gateway Program to twin the Port Mann Bridge and widen the Trans-Canada Highway.

Those opponents see expansion of roads as a contradiction when the push is on to reduce vehicle traffic and the resulting emissions.

A demonstration against Gateway will be held at 10:30 a.m. tomorrow outside Canada Place.

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Old April 14th, 2008, 06:32 AM   #2807
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the March 28 meeting of the new professional TransLink board held behind closed doors. Details were not revealed until the official announcement Friday.

Doug Kelsey, who runs TransLink's rapid-transit division, said customers won't notice a difference between the previous Mark II vehicles built in a now-closed facility in Burnaby and the new Mexican Mark II. But there will be updates, like a newer linear-induction propulsion system.

Because there are so few SkyTrain systems, Bombardier only produces the cars when there is an order.

"It's highly expensive to shut it down and then start it up," said Kelsey of producing the cars, which cost about $3 million each.

"You want to keep the production run going," he said.

I like how the new board is "professional"... so elected politicans are not professional enough to spend our taxdollars????

Also it is sad to see the burnaby facility no longer in operation though it hasnt been for some time now but still....
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Old April 14th, 2008, 06:50 AM   #2808
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Is there enough room for the burnaby facility to even build these anymore? I think they are currently expanding their facilities, but that would most likely be the last expansion.
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Old April 14th, 2008, 07:55 AM   #2809
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I like how the new board is "professional"... so elected politicans are not professional enough to spend our taxdollars????

Also it is sad to see the burnaby facility no longer in operation though it hasnt been for some time now but still....
I won't notice the difference - I won't notice "Salida" on the doors, or the announcements "Stand back from the doors, let the gringos off first"
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Old April 14th, 2008, 08:21 AM   #2810
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Is there enough room for the burnaby facility to even build these anymore? I think they are currently expanding their facilities, but that would most likely be the last expansion.
Last I checked, the Burnaby facility is now a carpet depot. Considering that the Burnaby facility built 60+ Mark II cars, it definitely had the capacity for the recent orders.


Personally, I don't care where they are built....as long as we get a bang for every buck we ditch out. (building those ferries in Germany was a great decision) And it's not like the Mexican workers are being abused.....sure, they might get paid less than a Canadian Bombardier worker but at the same time I'm sure Bombardier, being a Canadian company subsidized by the federal gov't, adheres to some Canadian standards to an extent.
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Old April 14th, 2008, 09:07 AM   #2811
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i thought it was a law firm or something.... but creating jobs for british columbians/ canadians is always a good thing...
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Old April 17th, 2008, 05:28 AM   #2812
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I have another exciting update on the Canada Line construction, a milestone [well not really].

Lansdowne Station



Canada Line Construction of Lansdowne Station from Lansdowne & No. 3 ~ Picture by Me ~ Photo compressed with Facebook ~ 04/16/2008


Aberdeen Station ~ Northbound Station Frame Complete


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Old April 18th, 2008, 11:21 AM   #2813
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April 17, 2008
Karagianis tables bill to end secrecy and indifference at Translink
VICTORIA -- It’s time the Campbell government acted to ensure Translink meetings are open to the public so decisions impacting average families aren’t made in secret and without their input, New Democrat transportation critic Maurine Karagianis said today.

“In the last few months, we have seen an unprecedented lack of accountability and a growing secrecy around TransLink’s functions. The Campbell government scoffs at these concerns and does nothing,” said Karagianis, the MLA for Esquimalt - Metchosin.

“Instead of acting in the interest of the taxpayers, the B.C Liberals have appointed a board of directors that keeps hitting average families in the pocketbook through fare increases and tax hikes. The Campbell government failed to raise an objection when TransLink took these drastic steps without any consultation or transparency,” Karagianis said.

Karagianis’ bill tabled today, and entitled the TransLink Openness Act, 2008, proposes an amendment to the South Coast British Columbia Transportation Act. Earlier this year, TransLink made an arbitrary decision that its meetings will no longer be open to the public. Instead, the current meetings have been assigned a small amount of time to allow “feedback” from pre-registered speakers with the bulk of the proceedings taking place in camera.

“Transportation Minister Kevin Falcon didn’t object when the TransLink board members gave themselves a 500 per cent pay increase just weeks after the Metro Vancouver transit riders were hit with the highest fares in the country. By voting in favour of the TransLink Openness Act, 2008, Falcon and his colleagues have a chance to ensure this culture of secrecy and a lack of accountability doesn’t further hurt ordinary people,” said Karagianis.
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Old April 18th, 2008, 09:52 PM   #2814
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4/17/2008

It's a decision Coquitlam residents have been waiting a long time to hear...and tomorrow they'll find out which route the Evergreen transit line will take through their community.

Transportation minister Kevin Falcon has confirmed he will announce the decision on Friday.

"Yes, I intend to be discussing the route for the Evergreen line, that will be part of the discussion I’ll be having in the communities."

Both proposed routes would cost about 1.4 billion dollars, but the northwest route through “Burquitlam” would be a bit quicker than the southeast route through Maillardville.

Falcon will speak at the tri-cities chamber of commerce luncheon
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Expected to be announced at the tri-cities lucheon thingy around noon/afternoon TODAY.
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North West Route Confirmed now:
http://www.translink.bc.ca/files/pdf..._alignment.pdf

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Northwest route decided for Evergreen Line

COQUITLAM – Transportation Minister Kevin Falcon and TransLink Chair Dale Parker announced today that the Evergreen Rapid Transit Line will be constructed on the Northwest route, connecting Lougheed Town Centre with Coquitlam Town Centre through Port Moody.
“On February 1, when we joined with TransLink to release the Evergreen Line Business Case, we asked the mayors and councils in the Northeast sector for their feedback on the outlined route options for the Evergreen Line,” said Minister Falcon. “Municipal councils in Port Moody, Port Coquitlam, Coquitlam, Burnaby, New Westminster and Belcarra have all voiced their support for the Northwest route.”

“We certainly heard loud and clear from the very communities which the Evergreen Line is meant to serve,” said Parker. “The Northwest corridor has not only technical advantages, but also widespread public and local government support. We now need to roll up our sleeves and get the project built.”

As announced in February, the Evergreen Line will use advanced light rapid transit (ALRT), technology, which is automated and separated from traffic.

“Now that we have decided on routing and technology for the Evergreen Line, we can proceed with project development and engineering to keep on track for planned 2014 completion,” said Falcon. “This important stage will include detailed procurement analysis and further environmental assessment including broad public consultation.”

One of the first orders of business will be the location and establishment of an Evergreen Line Project office in the Coquitlam area. The project partners will work from this new office to proceed with project development, preliminary design and detailed design, all entailing extensive, meaningful consultation with neighbourhood residents, businesses, and other stakeholders.

The Evergreen Line is an estimated $1.4 billion project. Through its recent Transit Plan, the BC Government has committed to investing $410 million in the project, and TransLink has committed $400 million to date to the Evergreen Line. Through the Public Transit Capital Trust 2008, the Government of Canada has provided $67 million to the Province for public transit infrastructure, and these funds will be dedicated to the Evergreen Line.
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Business Case: http://translink.bc.ca/files/pdf/Eve...2008_FINAL.pdf
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For someone not up to speed, what are the relative advantages of each route?
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it is my understanding that although both are the same price, the NW route will be faster, cheaper to run, and have better benifit to cost ratios.

however, the SW route is totally undeveloped and therefore has the highest future potential. i believe it will run right past riverview hospital.
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hurry up and build the damn thing already!



good to know they've chosen the right route.
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it is my understanding that although both are the same price, the NW route will be faster, cheaper to run, and have better benifit to cost ratios.

however, the SW route is totally undeveloped and therefore has the highest future potential. i believe it will run right past riverview hospital.
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I think there can be a good case for both routes but personally I think the SW route is best. It will serve PoCo, Riverview, but I think most importantly it would be a good route for a SkyTrain/LRT split over the PortMann to Guilford/North Langley/commuter buses coming in from the valley.
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